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Thank very much for your answer. I will read this with attention... Jedi

Hi... I have checked Geotech's website and I must say I was really surprised by the amount of Face Progression on each of their sets or wedges. The Face Progression number sometimes goes up to 10.0 on their wedge. I think they are talking in millimeters. But could this Face Progression be similar to Offset? A 10mm offset on a wedge is really high. They must have some particular way to measure this. Do you know how? Thanks. Jedi...

Don't forget that such putters are forbidden by USGA... You can find a lot of them in China...seems to be a trend on those type of "two legs" hosel...

yep...carbon shortage is expected until the end of 2007... much more carbon in the new Boeing 787 Dreamliner than the A380...not good for the shaft industry...

I think you can find them on a well known auctions website...in orange, red or light green... :tsg_smiley_laughatyou:

the best one for me is the XR 03 simply because the head is smaller than the other ones. I also like is clean look. overall performances are quite the same. 580 xd is perhaps a little bit longer due to a bigger head ---> bigger sweetspot...but I thnink a less solid contact... Olive...

well, natural nickel is quite "goldy" under ray of sun

Hi, What's the deal with this Nelson company???...never heard of it before... Is it a american or an asian company???... Did they already produce forged heads for big brands???... Thanks JediOliver...

Once again, USGA wants to avoid any technology increase in golf. How long will this continue???!!!??? USGA SENDS NOTICE TO MANUFACTURERS By Mike Stachura The U.S. Golf Association sent word to golf equipment manufacturers on Wednesday that it was exploring research aimed at possible new equipment rules. In a memorandum dated March 30 obtained by Golf Digest, the USGA announced it would be specifically focusing on three areas: spin generation, moment of inertia and the adjustability of woods and irons. d**k Rugge, senior technical director for the USGA, explained the memo was an effort to keep manufacturers abreast of the areas of interest for the game's ruling body when it comes to current golf technology. There is, he stressed, no timeline for implementing any new rules. Rugge has stated his desire to be more proactive rather than reactive in equipment rules-making. "We have no specific rules in mind at this time, we are just doing research," he said. "This is not a proposal, and there is no rule. "There's no intrigue here, no plot. Really, we're just trying to be more communicative." Several major manufacturers contacted by Golf Digest declined to comment on the USGA notice. The first of the three topics in the notice concerns ball spin. For instance, the balls being used by the elite players of today react with less spin off the driver, while retaining shotmaking spin around the greens. The notice calls spin "one of the key performance characteristics controlling ball flight and ball response on the ground." Under the topic heading of Spin Generation, the notice reads, "The USGA has been investigating how spin is generated when a golf ball is struck by a golf club. This is being done for a variety of shots, clubs, club face conditions, balls, and playing conditions. This research includes computer simulation modeling, lab testing, robot testing, and player testing. It is possible that this research could lead to future proposals for new measurements, new tests and limits for club or ball parameters which affect spin." The USGA is apparently concerned that manufacturers may be able to design a ball that on one hand passes the USGA overall distance standard under the stipulated launch conditions, but under different launch conditions actually exceeds the standard. If players are able to achieve those launch conditions (of which ball spin is a key component), then they are able to launch tee shots that fly farther than the 320-yard limit as specified in the USGA overall distance standard. The USGA is also conducting research under the concept of moment of inertia. According to the notice, moment of inertia in driver heads has approximately tripled since 1990, about the time of the introduction of the first oversized drivers. In simplest terms, moment of inertia relates to a clubhead's resistance to twisting on off-center hits. A club with a high moment of inertia can be said to be more forgiving of hits away from the center of the face. "The USGA is concerned that any further increases in clubhead moment of inertia may reduce the challenge of the game," the memo reads. "The USGA is conducting this research to determine whether a limit on moment of inertia should be established." The third area focuses not on a further restriction, but on an expansion of current rules, specifically allowing more adjustable features on clubs (although there is no movement to change the rule that does not permit adjustments mid-round). One of the most popular clubs in golf currently is the TaylorMade r7 Quad, which comes with four adjustable weight screws. Rugge said the notice does not signal any future rule changes, or even a rollback, as some have advocated over the years, most notably Jack Nicklaus and more recently former PGA Tour Commissioner Deane Beman. "I would advise those who are trying to predict the future to base that prediction on our past history," he said. These subjects, he said, are areas of intellectual curiosity, not motivated by any agenda. "The more knowledge we have the better we're able to make a decision to enact a rule or choose not to enact a rule," he said. "To do either of those things, you need knowledge, and that's all we're trying to do."

Well, I am frenc, and all i can say is that Inesis stuff is not the best one on the market...for sure... don't forget that Decathlon is a discount superstore sport chain...and major OEM are way to expensive for usual Deacathlon customer (who generally prefer the running/soccer/cycling area!!!!...)... well, I guess Thoma is not playing the exact same club that Decathlon sold in it's shop... Just another word...Thomas is good!!!... :smile1:

Well, if you mean "why not use some tungsten powder instead of epoxy beads during the shafting process?", I think it's because tungsten is harder than epoxy and would create some small impact hole on the shaft during the ball impact causing breakage risk...

I think GoingLeft is right... I had the chance to speak a little bit with a french tungsten dealer (I am french...) who worked with Taylor made just after Salomon Sport ( a french ski manufacture) bought them (everything is now under Adidas control...) he used to sell some tungsten weight for taylor made at that time but confirmed me that today, everything is made in china...everything... concerning steel specification, chinese factory are now offering the most versatile production process from conception to milling / surface treatment...etc... guess we have to find new business...

phillypete is right... the more you heat steel, the more the grain structure becomes tight, the more the feel is soft... that's what we call "aging" steel...and could be done on many steel variety just look at this picture from www.matweb.com to see how many kind of steel can be find now. I will say that these DASS or GSS are basicall 303 steel with different aging process and perhaps made by a "big name" in the steel industry for constant quality, and not by a standard suplyer... You only have to find the good Rockwell or Tensil strentgt to find the good one... BTW, many steel manufacturers are working on the composition, trying to make some kind of steel softer or harder, depending on the request of their customers... pehaps did you notice that aluminium also have different aging process. these process are named with a T symbol next to their category (6061 T6 for exemple)... look here: http://www.severnmetals.co.uk/notes_al.htm Hope this help... And yes, Mr Cameron is a king of marketing...

their website: www.etimo.co.jp don't know to much thing about this brand???... :?

an 909 is right... these are not tp-9 or even tp19 tp 19 were played by faldo 10 years ago, but had a straight musce this set looks like a european version of the TN 87, thats true. Mizuno also produced in europe a special edition set of irons called the TP 2000 that looked like this one. These irons were really interesting. They had a ceramic layer on them instead of the chrome layer... I have pic, I will try to post them... Olive...