lapinou2518 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Hi, I have the opportunity to buy a set of Honma Beres IS-03 4 starts golf set. As you know this are very expensive and subject to counterfeits. I am not an expert on Honma golf clubs so I was wondering if one of you could help me determine if they are genuine clubs or not. Here are some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogeylondon Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 It looks fake as the print on the hosel and the shaft is not as sharp as those I have seen. Additionally, the backside of the club must be 24k gold plated; the colour of gold should not be so dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregoire56 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Best option would probably be to message Honma with the same question and pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapinou2518 Posted April 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 22 minutes ago, gregoire56 said: Best option would probably be to message Honma with the same question and pics I sent an email to Honma but I don't think I will get an answer very quickly. I know there is some experts on this forum so I just wanted to get some opinions while I am waiting for an official answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregoire56 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, lapinou2518 said: I sent an email to Honma but I don't think I will get an answer very quickly. I know there is some experts on this forum so I just wanted to get some opinions while I am waiting for an official answer. ah very good idea. my personal thought is that it's at least possible they're not authentic just based on the serial number from the shaft sticker and the one on the hossel of the iron pictured don't appear to be the same. but not having the clubs in hand I can't tell if they're individually numbered irons, and the number on the sticker actually does match the number on one of the heads, or not. I also can't speak from experience because I've never had a set of these before, just experience with verifying serial numbers to authenticate clubs in general. good luck with getting definite answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bngolfer Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 The sticker says "Conforming to 201 new croove rules". Seems fake to me with spelling and grammar errors. The way the ferrule meets the hosel does not look too good either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proswing89 Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, bngolfer said: The sticker says "Conforming to 201 new croove rules". Seems fake to me with spelling and grammar errors. The way the ferrule meets the hosel does not look too good either. Are you serious! Do you really think a company like Honma would labeled spelling and grammar errors? It's from China for sure. Guaranteed. Edited April 10, 2017 by proswing89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bngolfer Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 No, I don't think that a company like Honma would allow these mistakes. Hence why I pointed it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 What spelling mistake? The label said conforming to the 2010 groove rule and not 201. Could Anyone confirm grove rule change was in 2010? I did purchase a set of IS 05 for a friend but it was only 2 stars hence very much less gold on the head. Quite honestly this set looks real to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Oh you mean the croove vs groove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bngolfer Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Yes, croove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bngolfer Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 And the "s" in "rules" as I think it should be "rule". But what do I know, I'm Swedish.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 6 hours ago, bngolfer said: And the "s" in "rules" as I think it should be "rule". But what do I know, I'm Swedish.. I've had a quick look on the tinterweb and it does look like Honma includes the "s" for rules rather than rule. Your English is terrible by the way........??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bngolfer Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Ian-500 said: I've had a quick look on the tinterweb and it does look like Honma includes the "s" for rules rather than rule. Your English is terrible by the way........??? Thanks Ian - I'll put some effort into learning how to master the queens tounge ?. The "crooves" still strikes me as being wrong and thereby I'm questioning the authenticity of the sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) Since this is the older model (IS-05 now) and 4 stars, I can only find pictures of the left handed model 3 stars on the Honma Japanese site. The two gold band ferrules look exactly the same. The site also states 'conforming to 2010 grooves rules' but spell groove correctly. They did not show the shaft label with 'croove'. The clubs look real to me. Edited April 11, 2017 by Duffer19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZGOLFA Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I got some Honma TW737V made the other day , these were the stickers on the shafts that i got. No grammatical errors, i know they are a Japanese company but you think they wouldn't misspell "Groove" for Croove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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