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haha.....yes....but now I need to save up for this ;-)

I'm back after my testing....and after reading through all the threads and the replies, I thought it'd be the responsible thing to first of all apologize for causing such a stir on the forum. My intentions when I first posted was to get some sound advice on some irons that I was considering. I apologize for the heated discussions that my questions had caused. Now for my report back. I did find a set of Miura's here in Taipei and after a good weekend, I have to say that I am settling on the original OnOff Forged. For me, an improving player wanting to move towards a more "pure" blade type feel, but still NEEDING the forgiveness, I think my best choice will be the OnOff's. Thanks TSG and everyone else for the gread advice and suggestions. I'm glad you guys are the source for these types of questions. ....hopefully, I can start asking about a new driver!! ;-) Thanks again!

Thanks again for your insight. I will definitely give Miura a try this weekend if I can find them here locally!! ;-)

Above_Beyond, thanks for your suggestion. I will check around this weekend to see if these are available here locally in Taipei. From looking at the links, my mouth is watering already. Just hope that I'm ready for these types of clubs at my current golfing level.... ;-)

Thanks gocchin for your reply. Actually, with the roll, I do get better distance with the OnOff forged plus. I appreciate your comments!! Pretty soon, I will need to ask for advice about a new driver :-)

I'm not sure about what your spec's are, but when I do hit the ball on the sweet spot, they feel very soft. Maybe it's a difference in shafts or other spec's?

Thanks Shambles. Your insight on your experience with Eye2's is interesting. Actually, my other train of thought was that since I'm so used to my Eye2's to keep these as my old "go to clubs" and get them re-shafted as I play some new Japanese clubs. I also thought of getting them reshafted previously, but the costs to reshaft them with some of the newer graphites (that perform the same as steel) is too expensive to do here, so I figured I'd get some new clubs by just paying a little bit more. But I will definitely keep these as my go-to-clubs as I learned all of my golf using these sticks!! Thanks again for your advice!

Thanks supo67, OnOff is what I'm leaning towards after hitting about 2000 balls in the last 3 days. My only other gripe is that during set up, the OnOff look thicker than the PRGR and I kind of like the thinnre topline. But I guess this is something you get used to? Because nothing can compare to the "feel" I suppose. Thanx for the advice!

Hi All, I'm new to the site and need some urgent advice and comments regarding new clubs. I have been playing golf for the past 20 years off and on and recently picked it up again (in a feverish way here in Taiwan). Being located in Taiwan, we have access to all Japanese and USA club offerings. I have been playing an old set of Ping Eye2's which were hand-me-downs from my uncle back in Canada. Recently, I've noticed that I can't get the distance I want from the clubs as they seem to provide too much loft. I have a couple of friends here that have been playing for much longer than I have and both of them are playing Japanese clubs (PRGR and OnOff). So recently, in order to try and stimulate and improve my distances, I went out and tried both the PRGR TR500 and the ONOFF Forged Plus (M711 - as they call it here in Taiwan, which is the new 2011 Forged Plus from what I saw on the site). The PRGR had their own PRGR steel shaft and the OnOff was fitted with NS950GH, both in S-flex. With the OnOff, when I "really" connect with the clubs, the ball seems to explode off the face and the feel is (as the site says) really soft but a very "full" and "robust" feeling. When I connect with the PRGR, it's a solid feeling, not as soft but a "crisp" and nice feeling--almost like a blade but....not quite. It also seems that the OnOFF's are more forgiving. As the Ping's that I've been playing are pure cavity-backs, I was thinking about upgrading to a blade. But after reading countless articles on the internet about the pro's and con's of blades vs. cavity backs, I've decided that I should stick to cavity back's for the love of the game....unless I can get to the greens every other day at least!! My questions are these: 1) Has anyone tried both of these irons? 2) For someone who is a 12 handicap and has been playing US Ping's with standard Ping shafts which one would you recommend? 3) Am I looking at the wrong two sets? If so, what would you recommend? Note that both of the clubs feel good the the most noticeable difference between hitting both is what I listed above as one being softer than the other. I get about the same distance hitting both and really need some urgent advice on this. I believe that these questions have been asked countless times on the blog/forum, but I have no where else to turn for advice here as the local shops will only try to sell you what they carry (most of the time) and don't really "help" with the right club choices. Any advice or comments would be truly appreciated!! Thanks!!