dartman

no prob....make sure you post that swing....ill check it out for you....I'm a PGA member so I can tell you what I think.

Highly suggest you watch Skins tournament and watch how Tiger and Adam Scott swing.....Scott has a better swing than tiger IMO, but that could be because I have actually played a round with him before. Watch how they start the backswing as one-piece, this is how you want to swing bud....later!

Tiger Woods' book "how i play golf" is pretty good for learning sound fundamentals, but to get the swing down do the tee is "total golf" from the academy of pros at pga national, written by Mike Adams and Tom Tomasi, or TJ Tomasi. That drill will certainly help you with finding the right position at the top, but be careful to limit your wrist rotation because that drill can get you hitting duck hooks all day long. The Furyk loop is IMO the best way to get rid of a slice, but overexaggerating will go you hooking. Best of luck to ya! PS-Don't get too caught up in fundamentals, just trust your swing w/o worrying about what it looks like.

O canada, One thing you have two understand is when you look at a swing, whether it is Lee Trevino, Tiger Woods, Nicklaus, Hogan, etc....their swing will fall in one of two categories a one-piece (modern), where everything is in-sync, shoulders are even with arms and chest speed matches the rotation of your hips....this swing will provide you with more consistency, but the distance is relative to your athletic build and how much torque you can load into your upper thighs and lower back. The other swing, like Nicklaus and Hogan is a three-piece or classic swing which is used by a few tour players nowadays, ie Colin Montgomerie or John Daly, which is totally opposite of Woods or Els...the perfect modern swing example, where nothing is forced, gravity does its work while you make your turn through the ball. The 3 piece swing is why Hogan says start with hips and all will follow, BUT Hogan hit a million golf balls with this one swing, his body and temperment allowed him to swing the way he did, as with Nicklaus and Palmer, you don't want this swing unless you ultimately must have the extra swing speed you will get while sacrificing consistency (unless you are hitting around 250-300 balls everyday like those guys did). You should have the following incorporated into your swing, the modern-swing: Ball position: middle to back with most irons middle-front with woods Grip: Strong (left hand turned clockwise when looking down while in set up pos.) or neutral Hip motion: pure rotation, not lateral then rotate like Hogan Takeaway: Begin with arms and shoulder acting sequentially, arm swing then set wrist, then turn shoulders while keeping spine angle Backswing: flatter, rounded; not high and arcing Right foot and left foot flared outwards Legs: Quiet Release: Rotational body release with arm speed matching upper body speed Finish with a straight spine, not a reverse C like Hogan

Playing the ball farther back in your stance allows you to shift your weight to your right easier on the backswing, which is probably the reason why you slice it when you move it up. Just concentrate on making a full-turn away from the ball and a full turn through the ball after impact while holding your follow-through at the top. The error I always see the most common with slicers is not letting your right hand follow through all the way over your left shoulder while travelling toward the target line, maybe a little inside the target line. As far as swing plane...just draw an imaginary line from the ball to your shoulders, just where your neck meets your sternum and swing back on that line while dropping your hands back inside on the downswing. Also, check and make sure most of your weight is on your left side as you follow through...if not you will leave the face open, creating a slice that starts on the target line and curves farther right. Something to try: swing like Jim Furyk, on an exaggerated outside the target line backswing and an exaggerated inside the target line downswing...you will feel like you are "looping" your hands around your shoulders. Also, see your local PGA pro for a lesson and ask him to get you on video...seeing your own swing will help you remember where you need to be at certain spots in your swing....ps...don't go to any of those non-PGA guys that go to some joke of a school for 6 months to become a teacher....PGA members go through extensive training in all aspects of the swing.