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  1. How the heck do you keep the sugar from flowing out of the shaft ?

    I know you can tape the butt end of the shaft but sugar will sooner or later find its way thorugh the tape ?

    FYI I also have a very nice Betti from TKSputter.com - a BB8 Tour DASS SilverPearl with 355 gram head weight - and I love it :atsg_smilie_roll:

    I consider shipping it to Tom Slighter for a 3 X black refinish, because I like black putters but also stainless steel putters.

  2. If you used to play Mizuno Mp-14 blades, I would certainly opt for either Mp-32 or Mp-60.

    And I don't see Miura's on your list - they are in my view the best forged irons when it comes to a proper combination of club head design, loft, bounce, brand recognition and quality of forgings (Spin welded will not come out of loft and lie as easily, while they to me still feels as great as the Mizuno forgings - please note that I own two Mizuno iron sets and two Miura iron sets, so I have actual proof of my allegation, as subjective this allegation might me)

    I would most certainly also consider these:

    Miura Giken Cb-1006

    Miura Cb-201

    Miura Cb-301 - in my view the best looking players cavity back ever made. Resembles the Macgregor PCB Tour Miura forged irons sets from 1999. Offset looks like ZERO, topline very thin, as soft feeling as my Mizuno Mp-32 set and still more forgiving.

    Other favorites on your hitlist must be: Epon Type J, Fourteen TC770 Forged (though with a bit too fat topline and slightly too much offset in my view) and Tourstage X Cb 2.

  3. Thanks for the response! Now do you think with my iron swing speed 1050 stiff or regular is better for me? Or is going to 950 stiff better. I can't seem to find much on the internet about the stiffness rating compare to rifle shaft. Only few coments such as possibly NS PRO 950 stiff would be equivalent to may be about a 5.3 rating. Is this true? Is NS PRO 1050 stiff stiffer than the 950 stiff. Would I be better candidate for 1150 regular perhaps?

    Also how does the Epon type J model setup better than the 14 forged 770 model? Does it have to do with less offset?

    Do you have any comment on the Fourteen driver selection such as J606 vs J405 vs the Epon technity 460? As you can see, I am definitely torn between the two companies and which one to go with. Any recommendation for a wood shaft for my swing speed? (90-96 miles/hr) with average tempo? Sorry so many questions!!! :tsg_smilie_love:

    I can answer the "blue" questio for you, I think :tsg_smilie_smile2:

    The 14 TC770 Forged have more offset and a thicker sole compared to the Epon Type J - therefore the Epon Type J looks better from the address position. Conversely the 14 TC770 Forged has a better looking cavity design compared to the Epon Type J - so it's really a subjective decision which one you will think is the best looker. Based entirely on specifications, I would assume the 14 TC770 Forged would play a tiny bit more forgiving compared to the Epon Type J iron. Both are forged by Endo, and should be Endo's supreme forgings - so you can't go wrong with either iron set.

    The Fourteen brand is a bit more known in the US, but still only club HO's will know what Fourteen is. Epon is even lesser known in the US - so only the most serious club HO's will know what Epon is. I still think its' shame that Endo didn't chose their own name as a brand instead of using the Epon brand name - but that's just me :tsg_smiley_crazy:

    Endo would sell a lot more clubs if they had their own name on the clubs instead of the Epon brand name.

  5. How much shallower will the face be in the X driver GR ?

    I love deep faced driver heads - and hate too shallow faced driver heads.......so should I go for traditional X driver or the upcoming one ?

    My SS is 112 Mph with the driver.....my normal distance with the driver is 260-265 carry and 280-285 with roll.

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    Edited by Claus

    I have a Bettinardi BB8 Tour DASS originally in SilverPearl Stainless Steel, but customised by Tom Slighter with a 3Xblack finish. It's never been used - I will get it from Tom Slighter in 2 weeks, and if you will pay the right price, it's yours.

    PM me if your interested - remember, this is a tour putter and not available retail - so the price is HIGH.........I paid $2k for it myself and $150 to Tom Slighter for the 3Xblack paint job on the putter. It's milled double aged stainless steel with black finish - 355 gram head and 35" shaft. Original brand new yellow Bettinardi Winn grip.

    Forgot - it has 3 sound slots of course..........this is from Bettinardi and not from an OEM like Hogan or Mizuno. Purchased at TKsputters.com.

  11. Claus,

    I too love the vokey design wedges. I am looking to splurge on a set of JDM wedges (52,55,58) as they are abundant this year. In your experience (or anyone else) which wedge has a similar playing characteristic to the vokey design, as I really like there shape. The offerings from Fourteen, Tourstage, epon, and Carlton are leading my search. I could use the advise of some TSG testers to help me guide my thougts on this purchase.

    Thanks, Kent

    So far no wedge has been able to give me the same feel of the Vokey's satin finish cast carbon steel. I've tried Miuzno, Miura, Tourstage, Cleveland, Callway, Taylor Made and Bridgestone wedges. My Vokey's are still - in my view - superior in feel, head design and different lofts and lie combinations. In fact the Mizuno forged wedges 1020 carbon steel in black nickel felt harder than my cast Vokes....go figure that out :tsg_smilie_smile2:

    I intend to order a set of the Oil Can Vokey's spin milled and have them special M grinded by Joe Kwok. This way I'll get the best wedge in the business, in my view.

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    Edited by Claus

    Cast carbon steel: Titleist Vokey - nobody beats it. Bob Vokey is the greatest wedge maker in the world. I've tried a lot of forged carbon steel wedges (Tourstage 2005 model, Miura and Mizuno Mp-T) and to me Vokey's are second to none.

    Forged carbon steel: Tourstage X-wedge 2007 (I'm tempted to buy a trio of these from Chris.....very tempted if it was not for the......), Callaway X-Tour (forged 1020 carbon steel and made by second greatest wedge designer in the world: Roger Cleveland), Mizuno Custom Made Mp-R, Miura Forged, Scratch Forged and Epon Forged - you can't go wrong with either of these wedges.

  14. Driver, 3 wood and hybrid: Lamkin Crossline Full cord Midsize

    Irons: Lamkin Crossline NON cord Midsize

    Wedges: Iomic X grip Midsize Blue

    Putter: Iomic Medium Yellow

    Reason:

    I like a firm feel in the grip when swinging my longer shafted clubs, driver and woods - hence a Crossline fullcord grip gives me extra good grip.

    I like a more soft feel in my irons, but not too soft - hence Crossline NON cord.

    I rarely take a full shot with any of my wedges, I prefer a 3/4 pitch and chip - hence I prefer a very soft grip in my wedges. The Iomic X grips provides me with this soft feel.

  15. There are G-Field clubs in the post above.

    But G-Field Japan, Gauge Design Japan, Gauge Design USA, all of these companies are dead in the water.

    The only two surviving offspring of this brand is Romaro Putters, and Golds Factory.

    Holy crap :tsg_smilie_smile2:

    Is G_Field and Gauge design bankrupt :tsg_smilie_fever:

    Since when - you got to tell me more about this, Chris :tsg_smiley_crazy:

  17. Many JDM brands are made in China, It comes down to several things:

    1. Japan Industry Standard Materials ( highest quality is 1020 double forged, Endo has its large factory in Thailand but they send over J.I.S steel to that location )

    2. Price Point vs Design ( even china vs china made drivers are better in Japan. Price point allows many new experiments or technologies to be used where as in the USA due to lower cost the product its budget technology. 299 is average price of a driver in America, 800 is the average in Japan. This goes into irons and their tungsten forged inserts and complicated tooling cavity design. imagine how much more you can put into an 800 driver.

    3. Quality Control and Manufacturing technique ( yes China has rapid prototyping, C.O.R testing machines etc.. but Japans got all that and next gen versions. Japan has a long tradition of process improvement, or "kaisan." The Japanese are experts at incrementally improving manufacturing methods and processes to ultimate perfection )

    Its more difficult for large U.S brands, they cant produce small runs, its not worth their marketing buck or time. They have to produce cost effective yet performing golf clubs to satisfy the budget golfer in the U.S. Remember that golf is a very affordable sport in America compared to other places.

    Much of the clubs in China are produced with recycled Titanium from Russian weapons to save $$$.

    Japan is world known to make the highest quality Titanium and Steel, Also the surface treatment done to Ti leaves china in the dust.

    I look at it this way, If I were baking a cake, i would want the best flour, eggs, sugar, and ingredients i could get. When thinking about a home, a sturdy frame with the latest technology and best materials are my interest. I feel the same way about auto's, clothing, and everything else.

    TSG'ers for the most part desire something better, something better designed and made.

    Also if OEMs are making their retail product in one place, and the worlds best players clubs in another, it says a lot and I think its only natural to want your clubs made where Tiger's & Phils are made.

    Great post, Chris :tsg_smiley_crazy:

    OT warning !

    I see you currently play with the Mizzie E500 irons - how are they, are they soft feeling and don't they have a bit too much offset ?

    They seem a bit bulky to me, compared to Epon type J and X you previously played with...

    What about the Mizzie E500 460cc driver, I'm looking forward to a test up against the Epon 460 Technity and the Tourstage X drive 460 drivers.......will you test it soon ?

  18. If you want control in your hybrid, I persoanally would advice you to skip graphite shafts in your hybrids, and go with a quality steel shaft that will give you the launch angle you seek for.

    If you however want a graphite shaft in your hybrid, I would consider getting a heavy graphite shaft that will provide you with a lower trajectory and resemble the characteristics of a steel shaft.

    If you want a JDM hybrid, I would consider the G Field Utility club - with a heavy graphite shaft or a steel shaft for better and lower trajectory control.

    Unfortunately you can't buy the G Field Utility club here on TSG anymore (don't know why that is) but try some of the other JDM vendors if you want this one.

    I really must say that I find the range of hybrid clubs in the TSG shop pretty narrow - we need some more hybrid clubs to choose from Chris :tsg_smiley_crazy:

  19. Hi Claus:

    This is not entirely true as a part of G-Field are made in China, especially the putters. Most Tourstage/VIQ line are either made or assembled in China as stated in its website as with some of the more popular JDM brands. I do agree with you that this is a forum for loves of JDM gear but partly for their designs and also for the workmanship if they are still produced in Japan, i.e. Honma, S-Yard, Gold's and XXIO and my beloved Matsumoto. There are other forum sites that would cater to lovers of Domestic.

    What I tried to explain was that in this forum, JDM gear is regarded as being superior to golf gear manufactured and produced in China. I didn't say that China can't make excellent golf gear. I know they can, because I love my China produced Titleist and Taylor Made golf gear :tsg_smilie_yuk:

    The tendency however is that the golf gear made in Japan seems to be of slightly higher quality and better and softer forgings - especially when it comes to irons and wedges.

    Endo is probably the best and most advanced club maker in the world right now when it comes to making drivers, woods and hybrids - and I know a lot of Endo's products are made and assembled in Thailand and China. I have a lot of respect for this brand, so not trying to diss on products made in these countries.

  20. Claus, so the Titleist, TM, etc in your profile is no good then? I am relatively new to golf and even newer to JDM, but I can tell you that you shouldn't assume that everything coming from China is of poor quality.

    You got that wrong.

    I said that in here JDM gear is regarded as the best quality gear. Golf gear produced in China is a NO NO - I said that with a smile (should have used a smiley for it, sorry).

    If you read the posts in here, you will pretty fast spot that the Japan forged and produced gear in general is considered a class higher than golf gear made in China, Taiwan and even Thailand. But as with all in this world, there are exceptions to the rule.

    Endo forges a lot of their products in Thailand and some of the major iron manufacturers forger their products in Japan while assembling them in Taiwan or China.

    BUT as a general rule - JDM gear is considered "the top of the pops" and stuff made in China is considered being of less superior quality. Notice that I said AS A GENERAL RULE !

    Of course China is perfectly capable of making great golf gear, in fact most of the US brands are made and assembled in China. The stuff from Japan just seem to be made with higher quality requirements.

    With that in mind, I can't say that I don't like Titleist & TaylorMade gear - I only tried to explain why the original poster most likely was in search for a Japan manufactured 3 wood and not one made in either China, Thailand nor Taiwan.

  21. Mind if I ask why Japanese only?

    I mean if you're looking for a great fairway, why not consider Tour Edge Exotics as well (not the CB2). I know this is made in the US, but it trully a great club.

    This is a forum for lovers of JDM gear, that's probably why :tsg_smilie_yuk:

    Tour Edge Exotic might be from USA, but it is produced in China, and in here China is a NO NO land when it comes to producing high quality golf gear - JAPAN RULEZZZZ :tsg_smilie_mad:

  25. American as in?

    As far as I know its all made in China.

    The good Japanese drivers usually have a slightly higher ball speed, depending on design and material the feel is enhanced too. That said it doesn't take a JDM driver to shoot low scores, still gotta have the swing.

    The USGA has everything max'd out so dont expect major distance gains from anything on any side of the pond.

    You know what I mean, Chris. Besides that, some Nike and Callaway drivers are made in Thailand by Endo (you said so yourself - so not everything is from China and as you also have mentioned, not everything from China is made with poor quality control)

    You can have US brand tour drivers for the price of JDM drivers and the US tour drivers can be fitted to your exact likings - loft, lie, internal weighting etc.

    The tour drivers are not on the shelfs, like the JDM drivers are in Japan and I do agree that JDM drivers have advanced shaft options - BUT the trend in the US market is going in the same direction now. Again one can argue, that the JDM market started the trend with exotic shaft options and now 2-3 years later, we see the same trend in the US market.

    I agree that the JDM drivers are more innovative with regards to both design and use of high tech materials - but not something that a US tour driver, made in China, can't accommodate regarding the ball speed and smashfactor.

    As I said the forgiveness factor is one area where the JDM drivers prevails.

    Forgiveness is a must for everybody, but especially for the mid to high cappers - and this is the group of people that will benefit most from the advanced forgiving hot JDM drivers.