eBay auction - what am I missing?

[OmarVizquel]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...7107254981&rd=1

I can almost see why some of these Cameron groupies like the headcovers and stuff, but $300+ for a WINN GRIP?????

Anybody that pays that much for a grip (especially one that wears out quickly) needs to have their head checked.

:beer2: + eBay = :money: :wah:

[scratchgolfnut69]

Wow, some people are so stupid. Maybe they thing they're gonna get all of them :whistle:

[TMMike]

Completely agree! WINN grips SUCK! Cheapest rubber compound used on the market. And if you are a range rat - STAY AWAY! Anybody who would pay $300.00 let alone $30.00 for a WINN grip are either ignorant or oblivious to the piss poor quality of a WINN (Hey Butch - they're crap...haha!). I went through two WINN A-17 grips with my 983K in less than a month, and the WINN that came with my TP Modena is pure junk. I replaced that one with a GD ION (yellow) and love it! :gauge:

[Lwolf]

Some people are crazy, if you think that is nuts, check this out... :surprize:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...me=STRK:MEWA:IT

[lightrider]

The Winn grips have been bringing that price for months. They are Tour only at this point, and are hard to get. Its all supply and demand. Don't forget that those items, in Yahoo Japan, will bring more money than ebay. As for the durability of the grips, I have never had to change a worn out putter grip but, I have alot of putters to choose from.

The first Mickey covers went for around $1500-$2500. Again, supply and demand of two highly collectible entities. The Mickey covers are rare and can only be bought with a putter at WDW pro shops. They will eventually go down in price, probably $300-$500, but still alot of money for alot of people.

[jboy]

I guess the golfing world has gone mad.

Given Cameron has created this great aura of collectability around his product but like any good antiques or classic car dealer will tell you, market saturation and availability dictate prices. Given there are about a thousand Cameron models of putter out there and even more headcovers, people who buy these are really really stupid, the market is flooded with supposed unique cameron crap

I may have a a collectable green suede cover, but the two ball in front has the mickey and the four ball in front of him has a' poo-pooing scotty dog' stamped pro Platinum and so on.

It's so passe it's pathetic.... fools and their money are easily parted.

Personally I think it's more Kool Aid and TSG'er should be beyond this type of crap.

Expensive putter headcovers ain't going to make you play better, aren't going to turn heads on the course and are really just for bragging rites sake in my book. Neither is a grip... now good hardware is a different story ... the import stuff we buy isn't overtly overpriced in relation to the mods, cosmetics and extra quality of materials/workmanship we pay for (although some members need a slap with their tour issue fansination, but it's not out of control like this cameronmania!)

Anyone agree ??

[lightrider]

I guess the golfing world has gone mad.

Given Cameron has created this great aura of collectability around his product but like any good antiques or classic car dealer will tell you, market saturation and availability dictate prices. Given there are about a thousand  Cameron models of putter out there and even more headcovers, people who buy these are really really stupid, the market is flooded with supposed unique cameron crap

I may have a a collectable green suede cover, but the two ball in front has the mickey and the four ball in front of him has a' poo-pooing scotty dog' stamped pro Platinum and so on.

It's so passe  it's pathetic.... fools and their money are easily parted.

Personally I think it's more Kool Aid and TSG'er should be beyond this type of crap.

Expensive putter headcovers ain't going to make you play better, aren't going to turn heads on the course and are really just for bragging rites sake in my book. Neither is a grip... now good hardware is a different story ... the import stuff we buy isn't overtly overpriced in relation to the mods, cosmetics and  extra quality of materials/workmanship we pay for (although some members need a slap with their tour issue fansination, but it's not out of control like this cameronmania!)

Anyone agree ??

I don't think anyone claims that a headcover makes them play better. I do know people who claim a $300 shaft will give them 50 extra yards. The Cameron market is saturated but, it still bringing these prices. When will it end, who knows. The biggest market for Camerons is Asia. TSG emphasis equipment from Asia. I guess I don't understand your connection with TSG and the Cameron Market. Are you implying that Cameron is Fraud? He might not be the most original designer but, you got to give him his props.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

thats ridiculous,lol first i see a putter for 600us, now a grip for 300us.lol what is this world coming to, they must think they get all of them.

[tei3rn]

The crazy thing about it is that Cameron/Titleist doesn't even make the headcovers or grips. There made by AME, Winn, Golf Pride, etc. I can see the big dollars for his putters but not the accessories... :money:

[Lwolf]

The crazy thing about it is that Cameron/Titleist doesn't even make the headcovers or grips.  There made by AME, Winn, Golf Pride, etc.  I can see the big dollars for his putters but not the accessories... :money:

Exactly!!

[jboy]

Just think it's been overplayed, the whole Cameron thing, clubs is bad enough but headcovers for $300... that's crazy and the grip is just as bad.

15 years ago nearly every grip on tour was a Ping Man regardless of putter make, people used everyday Ansers , Zebras and Bullseyes.

Strange how the Vokey wedge isn't privy to this extreme craziness. The 970 woods are probably the only Titleist collectable that reflects their rarity and are reasonably priced (compared to a grip for gods sake!)

Yes, I think scotty cameron is a bit of fraud, 90% of his designs are stolen and he relies on this gimmicky stamping and headcover/pitch mark repairer racket to market his stuff... maybe that's where his genius lies, allowing others to take extremely large sums of money off idiots for not much in return other than to boost his brand name and charge over the odds for his off the peg stuff in Pro shops.

Am I being too harsh ??

His putters are nice though, overpriced in my book but his ego is running wild with this stamping and prototyping caper. Its exploitation of the weak minded.

[lightrider]

The crazy thing about it is that Cameron/Titleist doesn't even make the headcovers or grips.  There made by AME, Winn, Golf Pride, etc.  I can see the big dollars for his putters but not the accessories... :money:

Exactly!!

Why does it matter who is the OEM? Cameron didn't make the steel, he just designed a putter head around it. Very few Camerons are handmade and he still didn't forge the steel. In reality, most tour cameron heads are really just a heavy retail head with different stamps. The market dictates the price, which is a product of Cameron/Titleist marketing. You can't go to AME, Winn, or GP and buy the Cameron creation. You can buy the same model but, not the same design. I think none of you guys have girlfriends or wifes as they sure can tell you the difference between a real and fake Prada.

When the restoration shop opens, I bet you see these grips and they will go down to $35-$50 a grip. Of course, the real manufactured value is probably a few bucks. The value of Heacovers and grips is somewhat of a good thing because if you buy $1500.00 tour putter, at least you can assign some value to the headcover and grip.

[Lwolf]

The crazy thing about it is that Cameron/Titleist doesn't even make the headcovers or grips.  There made by AME, Winn, Golf Pride, etc.  I can see the big dollars for his putters but not the accessories... :money:

Exactly!!

Why does it matter who is the OEM? Cameron didn't make the steel, he just designed a putter head around it. Very few Camerons are handmade and he still didn't forge the steel. In reality, most tour cameron heads are really just a heavy retail head with different stamps. The market dictates the price, which is a product of Cameron/Titleist marketing. You can't go to AME, Winn, or GP and buy the Cameron creation. You can buy the same model but, not the same design. I think none of you guys have girlfriends or wifes as they sure can tell you the difference between a real and fake Prada.

When the restoration shop opens, I bet you see these grips and they will go down to $35-$50 a grip. Of course, the real manufactured value is probably a few bucks. The value of Heacovers and grips is somewhat of a good thing because if you buy $1500.00 tour putter, at least you can assign some value to the headcover and grip.

I am simply saying that the manufactured costs of these items is far below the prices they command on sites like Ebay, if people wish to pay big $$ for them, so be it. I just don't understand why anyone would want to pay approx. $300 for a grip, Cameron or otherwise. Personally I would not want to use that particular grip, so what does someone do with it, look at it??

[lightrider]

I understand your point, but cost is relative to everyone. I don't know anyone who collects grips, like headcovers, and they usually get slipped on $1500.00 "Tour" putters. Its just like the "tour" stamps on the putter themselves, its another way to differentiate the putter. I agree the prices seem ridiculous but, if that's the market, that's the market. Some people buy high, and other think they buy low. :money: :smile1:

[hornyjuan]

Just ask DEMO MAN how much he has spent on rare collectable Camerons? Yes it might be ridiculous but their is a market for these things...just like selling a strand of Britney Spear's pubic hair on ebay or a Britney Spear's fart that a dude captured in a ziplock bag (This was an actual auction...no joke) :smile2:

[Lwolf]

I understand your point, but cost is relative to everyone.  I don't know anyone who collects grips, like headcovers, and they usually get slipped on $1500.00 "Tour" putters.  Its just like the "tour" stamps on the putter themselves, its another way to differentiate the putter.  I agree the prices seem ridiculous but, if that's the market, that's the market.  Some people buy high, and other think they buy low.    :money:  :smile1:

I can't disagree with anything you said here, guess some people have a lot more spendable cash than others.

[Guest]

Britney Spear's fart that a dude captured in a ziplock bag (This was an actual auction...no joke)   :smile2:

WTF!!! - how much did that end up going for :-D

[cdcj]

That is crazy. I have quality issues with Winn putter grips as well. I put one on my putter, and it started to tear up on the end after a couple of months. I guess from putting into and removing from the bag. I do not have this problem from the $2.50 cord grips on the rest of my clubs.

[jboy]

Lightrider,

Stampings don't help you hole putts...it's completely cosmetic so God only knows what you're talking about 'design', half of Camerons were stolen from Ping anyway.

I know your girlfriend wouldn't buy or sport a Prada design that was stolen from GAP, would she ???

Which leads me to believe that Cameron Collectors are thicker and more gullible than women!

Therefore your argument would have to be a massive collection of $60 Pings as they are the true paragons of iconic design not the Camerons, agreed??

and as to people buying cameron headcovers as a fashion design statement on the golf course (as it serves no other purpose than to protect the putter) I'd say go and spend some money of Hugo Boss golf wear, you'll make 10x the impression than a silly Mickey Mouse embroidery on a headcover hiding in your golf bag...... it's equivelent of getting a tattoo inside your rectum or under your foreskin, just plain daft. You may as well stuff 300 dollars up your arse, or the grip itself... that's how silly it is...no more ludicrous than owning the Britney fart in a ziplok bag

Lightrider, there is no logical defence to the craziness that is Cameron collectables... next thing you know the bubble wrap they come in will be Scotty dogged/ Loser stamped selling for $1,000 on ebay.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

how much did that grip go for anyways?

[Lwolf]

how much did that grip go for anyways?

US $280

[lightrider]

Lightrider,

Stampings don't help  you hole putts...it's completely cosmetic so God only knows what you're talking about 'design', half of Camerons were stolen from Ping anyway.

I know your girlfriend wouldn't buy or sport a Prada design that was stolen from GAP, would she ???

Which leads me to believe that Cameron Collectors are thicker and more gullible than women!

Therefore your argument would have to be a massive collection of $60 Pings as they are the true paragons of iconic design not the Camerons, agreed??

and as to people buying cameron headcovers as a fashion design statement on the golf course (as it serves no other purpose than to protect the putter) I'd say go and spend some money of Hugo Boss golf wear, you'll make 10x the impression than a silly Mickey Mouse embroidery on a headcover hiding in your golf bag...... it's equivelent of getting a tattoo inside your rectum or under your foreskin, just plain daft. You may as well stuff 300 dollars up your arse, or the grip itself... that's how silly it is...no more ludicrous than owning the Britney fart in a ziplok bag

Lightrider, there is no logical defence to the craziness that is Cameron collectables... next thing you know the bubble wrap they come in will  

be Scotty dogged/ Loser stamped selling for $1,000 on ebay.

Jboy,

Has anyone said stampings, headcovers, or Cameron Winn grips make you putt better? Do rear spoilers make Honda civics go faster? People collect stamps, lamps, coins, or whatever they find interesting. Just because you can't comprehend something, doesn't make it stupid. It makes it an enjoyable hobby for someone who likes to do it. One of the reasons why the headcover market is there is because most Cameron collectors can't afford Tour or hand made putters. Heck, under your assumptions, there must be alot of uneducated people in Japan, as well as the US, as there sure alot of collectors there, even a museum.

Hugo Boss???? That's high end for you, huh? :whistle: I collect Camerons and Bettinardis so I guess I must be thicker and more gullible than a women and I do wish they were early Pings because some of those are worth a hell of alot more than my entire collection. But again, I guess you don't understand the market or what actually occurs as most headcovers don't make it onto the course. How many collectable stamps do you think make it onto letters? Btw, what car do you drive?

[lightrider]

Lightrider, there is no logical defence to the craziness that is Cameron collectables... next thing you know the bubble wrap they come in will be Scotty dogged/ Loser stamped selling for $1,000 on ebay.

I am not defending the Cameron market as much as I am tired of people slamming a real market. Why don't you slam the stock market as its the same thing. Again, obviously you haven't looked at comparable markets as I have indeed seen shopping bags and wrapper from LV, Prada, etc. sold on ebay. It is crazy but people buy it. I scratch head and laugh at it. You think the wolds coming to the end.... :wink:

[Sgt_Slaughter]

how much did that grip go for anyways?

US $280

280us for grip, wow, somebody must be smokin something. thats too much

[primo]

:)