Guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 i read a post about the TM mitsubishi shaft on another site that said ELNINO shaft 1 of 15 ever made for $ 500 each brand new in the wrapper......he had 9 of them for sale so that leaves 6 out there in the world ever made??? anyone esle ever seen a El Nino shaft? just wanting toi clarification that there is more than 15 of these ever made bvefore someone gets bent over and buys one of the so called 15 ever made for 500 bucks and gets sadly dissapointed [email protected] any input will be appreciated......the reason i ask is i am about to get one so that would make 10 out there new and uncut out of 15 ever made......guess Sergio only got 5 of them and if he needs another he has to call u know who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey3108 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 i read a post about the TM mitsubishi shaft on another site that said ELNINO shaft 1 of 15 ever made for $ 500 each brand new in the wrapper......he had 9 of them for sale so that leaves 6 out there in the world ever made??? anyone esle ever seen a El Nino shaft? just wanting toi clarification that there is more than 15 of these ever made bvefore someone gets bent over and buys one of the so called 15 ever made for 500 bucks and gets sadly dissapointed[email protected] any input will be appreciated......the reason i ask is i am about to get one so that would make 10 out there new and uncut out of 15 ever made......guess Sergio only got 5 of them and if he needs another he has to call u know who I've seen and worked on some of them, At least 8-10 of them! So that will make it at least 17, could the other 2 are FAKE? AT LEAST!!! BTW, I wonder if A shaft company spend $$$ on R&D to only build 15 shafts. Plus I wonder how many of the tour players use it and who are they? Or somebody just playing w/ our heads. :D I wonder If TM Tour Dept can clarify this issue!!!:whistle: Joe :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProSpec Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 i read a post about the TM mitsubishi shaft on another site that said ELNINO shaft 1 of 15 ever made for $ 500 each brand new in the wrapper......he had 9 of them for sale so that leaves 6 out there in the world ever made??? anyone esle ever seen a El Nino shaft? just wanting toi clarification that there is more than 15 of these ever made bvefore someone gets bent over and buys one of the so called 15 ever made for 500 bucks and gets sadly dissapointed[email protected] any input will be appreciated......the reason i ask is i am about to get one so that would make 10 out there new and uncut out of 15 ever made......guess Sergio only got 5 of them and if he needs another he has to call u know who I've seen and worked on some of them, At least 8-10 of them! So that will make it at least 17, could the other 2 are FAKE? AT LEAST!!! BTW, I wonder if A shaft company spend $$$ on R&D to only build 15 shafts. Plus I wonder how many of the tour players use it and who are they? Or somebody just playing w/ our heads. :D I wonder If TM Tour Dept can clarify this issue!!!:whistle: Joe :cool: That 'bout sums it up :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 ooooooooooo do i smell more scandal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champx2 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 i read a post about the TM mitsubishi shaft on another site that said ELNINO shaft 1 of 15 ever made for $ 500 each brand new in the wrapper......he had 9 of them for sale so that leaves 6 out there in the world ever made??? anyone esle ever seen a El Nino shaft? just wanting toi clarification that there is more than 15 of these ever made bvefore someone gets bent over and buys one of the so called 15 ever made for 500 bucks and gets sadly dissapointed[email protected] any input will be appreciated......the reason i ask is i am about to get one so that would make 10 out there new and uncut out of 15 ever made......guess Sergio only got 5 of them and if he needs another he has to call u know who Yo bro, 15 or 1500 made, who knows and who cares? First of all anyone who would spend $500 sight unseen :money: for a untested shaft has more than a few screws loose IMHFO. I mean it is supposed to be made for Sergio which makes it a bad choice for 99.99999999% of the golfing public. And TM is dumping excess to resellers? WTF? Why? I guess nobody on tour needs or wants it. Check the shaft counts man. Fuji and GD own the business. I think even UST is ahead of Mitsubishi. Don't get me wrong Mitsu makes a very nice product but you can get 2 Fujis installed from a authorized dealer for $500. Get properly fit and get a full warranty. Maybe a nice zcom tw74. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheHole Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I mean it is supposed to be made for Sergio which makes it a bad choice for 99.99999999% of the golfing public. Ahhh, JC chimes in with words of wisdom..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull808 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I don't know about the "El Nino", but I believe this shaft is rare. Maybe Joey or some other clubfitters know about it and can chime in some info about it. It's the Prototype Aldila Cinnamon. It's an extremely low torque shaft (1.8*0 for it's weight and is a low kick/soft tip shaft. The frequency of the shaft is the same as the NV but the tip is slightly softer then the NVS. I've heard that it will never be produced for the public because the material they use to make it such a low torque shaft for it's weight is too expensive for mass production. Thus making this an extremely rare and hard to find shaft PS...JOE K....I still am in love with the V-Steel you made! :smile2: Thanks to Bruinduke for selling it to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShreveportGolf Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Check the shaft counts man. Fuji and GD own the business. I think even UST is ahead of Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi is just hitting the US market this year and already has 5 of the top 8 in the world using their shaft. Don't speak too soon. I remember when Fuji did this to other brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champx2 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Check the shaft counts man. Fuji and GD own the business. I think even UST is ahead of Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi is just hitting the US market this year and already has 5 of the top 8 in the world using their shaft. Don't speak too soon. I remember when Fuji did this to other brands. Whatever bro. I never said Mitsubishi did not make a fine product. You must be a diamana dealer :wink: Anyhow, it seems like most of the mitsubishi tour usage comes from shafts that are not available to the general public with the exception of Tiger's 93x. 1. Singh 11.93 Shaqx 2. Woods 11.57 Diamana 93x 3. Els 10.70 4. Mickelson 8.36 5. Goosen 6.90 85 MT x 6. Garcia 5.29 El nino ? No idea. Allthough I think most if not all his wins were with steel 7. Scott 5.08 8. Harrington 5.06 9. Weir 4.88 10. Love-III 4.66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShreveportGolf Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Of course I am! Just giving out a dose of propaganda. :wink: But seriously, there is no difference of quality between the shafts one tour player may have to the other. The difference is how they fit that player. It is my belief that Mitsu will make a strong move in the US market, because of the high quality of their product. Then they may offer more shafts to the public, as in Fuji's case. I may be wrong, but that is just my opinion. Of course, it all depends how many wins they get under their belt here and how quickly it is done as to its impact on the US tour. Both the players and the market are fickle like that. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 there is actually a rare fujikura that i have never ever seen for sale !!! it is the fujiikura with the honeycomb weave on the butt section, on the graphics it says fujikura, made by "eric" who is a designer of fujikura shafts in the bay area !!!! i think joe kwok may know of these shafts or probably knows the designer himself, any info on this subject ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey3108 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I don't know about the "El Nino", but I believe this shaft is rare. Maybe Joey or some other clubfitters know about it and can chime in some info about it. It's the Prototype Aldila Cinnamon. It's an extremely low torque shaft (1.8*0 for it's weight and is a low kick/soft tip shaft. The frequency of the shaft is the same as the NV but the tip is slightly softer then the NVS. I've heard that it will never be produced for the public because the material they use to make it such a low torque shaft for it's weight is too expensive for mass production. Thus making this an extremely rare and hard to find shaft PS...JOE K....I still am in love with the V-Steel you made! :smile2: Thanks to Bruinduke for selling it to me! I just talked to the rep last week about this one but never seen it in person. In fact, this is the 1st time i've seen it from your lovely picture.Joe :cool: ps: Glad you still love the club from Duke, Duke is beating his head on the table as i wrote this reply. :D :-D :smile1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey3108 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 i read a post about the TM mitsubishi shaft on another site that said ELNINO shaft 1 of 15 ever made for $ 500 each brand new in the wrapper......he had 9 of them for sale so that leaves 6 out there in the world ever made??? anyone esle ever seen a El Nino shaft? just wanting toi clarification that there is more than 15 of these ever made bvefore someone gets bent over and buys one of the so called 15 ever made for 500 bucks and gets sadly dissapointed[email protected] any input will be appreciated......the reason i ask is i am about to get one so that would make 10 out there new and uncut out of 15 ever made......guess Sergio only got 5 of them and if he needs another he has to call u know who Yo bro, 15 or 1500 made, who knows and who cares? First of all anyone who would spend $500 sight unseen :money: for a untested shaft has more than a few screws loose IMHFO. I mean it is supposed to be made for Sergio which makes it a bad choice for 99.99999999% of the golfing public. And TM is dumping excess to resellers? WTF? Why? I guess nobody on tour needs or wants it. Check the shaft counts man. Fuji and GD own the business. I think even UST is ahead of Mitsubishi. Don't get me wrong Mitsu makes a very nice product but you can get 2 Fujis installed from a authorized dealer for $500. Get properly fit and get a full warranty. Maybe a nice zcom tw74. JC, You are making me slip off the chair bro! LMAO!!! :surprize: I can see that you really like that TW74 ha, Good call on that one ! Joe :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champx2 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 i read a post about the TM mitsubishi shaft on another site that said ELNINO shaft 1 of 15 ever made for $ 500 each brand new in the wrapper......he had 9 of them for sale so that leaves 6 out there in the world ever made??? anyone esle ever seen a El Nino shaft? just wanting toi clarification that there is more than 15 of these ever made bvefore someone gets bent over and buys one of the so called 15 ever made for 500 bucks and gets sadly dissapointed[email protected] any input will be appreciated......the reason i ask is i am about to get one so that would make 10 out there new and uncut out of 15 ever made......guess Sergio only got 5 of them and if he needs another he has to call u know who Yo bro, 15 or 1500 made, who knows and who cares? First of all anyone who would spend $500 sight unseen :money: for a untested shaft has more than a few screws loose IMHFO. I mean it is supposed to be made for Sergio which makes it a bad choice for 99.99999999% of the golfing public. And TM is dumping excess to resellers? WTF? Why? I guess nobody on tour needs or wants it. Check the shaft counts man. Fuji and GD own the business. I think even UST is ahead of Mitsubishi. Don't get me wrong Mitsu makes a very nice product but you can get 2 Fujis installed from a authorized dealer for $500. Get properly fit and get a full warranty. Maybe a nice zcom tw74. JC, You are making me slip off the chair bro! LMAO!!! :surprize: I can see that you really like that TW74 ha, Good call on that one ! Joe :cool: Joey, Thanks man. you know I was intent on getting that tw74 well before Fuji was ready to sell them in the USA. VERY nice and I appreciate it. JC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champx2 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Of course I am! Just giving out a dose of propaganda. :wink: But seriously, there is no difference of quality between the shafts one tour player may have to the other. The difference is how they fit that player. It is my belief that Mitsu will make a strong move in the US market, because of the high quality of their product. Then they may offer more shafts to the public, as in Fuji's case. I may be wrong, but that is just my opinion. Of course, it all depends how many wins they get under their belt here and how quickly it is done as to its impact on the US tour. Both the players and the market are fickle like that. Paul Absolutely. Mitsu certainly has a high quality product and time wil tell if it catches on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 yeah the Zcom TW 74 X rocks i agree got one in my vsteel 3 wood........this subject wasnt on a rare fuji Robbie AKA todd's ASSBUDDY.......this was on ur boys 1 of 15 ever made bulls**t El Nino pitch he was selling ......UR BOY claims there is 1 of 15 ever made which is total BS and is a SCAM is what i was getting to.....dont tell me you are riding on that wagon down the toilet bowl with him and promoting his 1 of 15 shafts and 1 of 25 black rac mb's ever made sales pitches......if u dont wanna comment on the subject of the main then dont comment at all...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey3108 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 i read a post about the TM mitsubishi shaft on another site that said ELNINO shaft 1 of 15 ever made for $ 500 each brand new in the wrapper......he had 9 of them for sale so that leaves 6 out there in the world ever made??? anyone esle ever seen a El Nino shaft? just wanting toi clarification that there is more than 15 of these ever made bvefore someone gets bent over and buys one of the so called 15 ever made for 500 bucks and gets sadly dissapointed[email protected] any input will be appreciated......the reason i ask is i am about to get one so that would make 10 out there new and uncut out of 15 ever made......guess Sergio only got 5 of them and if he needs another he has to call u know who Yo bro, 15 or 1500 made, who knows and who cares? First of all anyone who would spend $500 sight unseen :money: for a untested shaft has more than a few screws loose IMHFO. I mean it is supposed to be made for Sergio which makes it a bad choice for 99.99999999% of the golfing public. And TM is dumping excess to resellers? WTF? Why? I guess nobody on tour needs or wants it. Check the shaft counts man. Fuji and GD own the business. I think even UST is ahead of Mitsubishi. Don't get me wrong Mitsu makes a very nice product but you can get 2 Fujis installed from a authorized dealer for $500. Get properly fit and get a full warranty. Maybe a nice zcom tw74. JC, You are making me slip off the chair bro! LMAO!!! :surprize: I can see that you really like that TW74 ha, Good call on that one ! Joe :cool: Joey, Thanks man. you know I was intent on getting that tw74 well before Fuji was ready to sell them in the USA. VERY nice and I appreciate it. JC Anytime! I'll be happy to help you in any ways.Joe :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull808 Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 I don't know about the "El Nino", but I believe this shaft is rare. Maybe Joey or some other clubfitters know about it and can chime in some info about it. It's the Prototype Aldila Cinnamon. It's an extremely low torque shaft (1.8*0 for it's weight and is a low kick/soft tip shaft. The frequency of the shaft is the same as the NV but the tip is slightly softer then the NVS. I've heard that it will never be produced for the public because the material they use to make it such a low torque shaft for it's weight is too expensive for mass production. Thus making this an extremely rare and hard to find shaft PS...JOE K....I still am in love with the V-Steel you made! :smile2: Thanks to Bruinduke for selling it to me! I just talked to the rep last week about this one but never seen it in person. In fact, this is the 1st time i've seen it from your lovely picture.Joe :cool: ps: Glad you still love the club from Duke, Duke is beating his head on the table as i wrote this reply. :D :-D :smile1: :laugh: Yup...I'm the only one I've seen with this shaft too! And I hope Duke doesn't beat his head too much! :smile2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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