benny Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Just checked the swingwieghts of my clubs(3-PW Mizuno MP30 DGX100, +1.75", 56/60 Cleveland 588 DGS300 +1.5")... Found the 3-9 come out to D9, the PW is E3, 56 is E4. Checked my driver and found it to be C9, my 3 wood was C8. How even should your set up be? I think I'm alright around iron/wedges, but the disparity between the woods and irons seems a little high, no? To increase the driver to D9 I needed to use a sheet and a half of those "head wayters". To much tape, how do you go about adding nuetral wieght? Do you have to pull the shaft? Thank you for all the help. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey3108 Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Just checked the swingwieghts of my clubs(3-PW Mizuno MP30 DGX100, +1.75", 56/60 Cleveland 588 DGS300 +1.5")... Found the 3-9 come out to D9, the PW is E3, 56 is E4. Checked my driver and found it to be C9, my 3 wood was C8. How even should your set up be? I think I'm alright around iron/wedges, but the disparity between the woods and irons seems a little high, no? To increase the driver to D9 I needed to use a sheet and a half of those "head wayters". To much tape, how do you go about adding nuetral wieght? Do you have to pull the shaft? Thank you for all the help.G What is your woods lenght? and what are they?Did you extend all your irons from a normal set? How tall are you? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted February 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Joey, Not positive on the lengths of the woods, but I think they are pretty close to standard (45 driver? checked it against an uncut 46" shaft). I made no alterations to the woods. The irons were ordered from Mizuno at +1.75 so I don't think they used extensions (at least I hope not). Haven't changed the grips yet so I'm not sure (little over three months old). Wedges were ordered from Cleveland at +1.5 and they are not "extended". I am 6"8" and wiegh about 260lbs. Pretty big! I used to play pingI3 Osize that were +1.5" and 5*up. Those numbers were generated by a ping static fit. Thanks Joey, please help set me striaght on the swingwieght. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey3108 Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Joey,Not positive on the lengths of the woods, but I think they are pretty close to standard (45 driver? checked it against an uncut 46" shaft). I made no alterations to the woods. The irons were ordered from Mizuno at +1.75 so I don't think they used extensions (at least I hope not). Haven't changed the grips yet so I'm not sure (little over three months old). Wedges were ordered from Cleveland at +1.5 and they are not "extended". I am 6"8" and wiegh about 260lbs. Pretty big! I used to play pingI3 Osize that were +1.5" and 5*up. Those numbers were generated by a ping static fit. Thanks Joey, please help set me striaght on the swingwieght. G 1. If you can't tell me the exact lenght , I can't help you much. I don't like to guess! 2. When you order a custom Mizuno, You should've told them to have them in a custom weighted heads also to get around D6 at the most and D7or8 on the PW, and you should build your woods base on that sw also. Mizuno is one of the best company who can do this type of custom order. As of the lenght on the woods, is not a big deal IMO, the biggest deal of the woods is your lie angle, cuz you are extremely tall person. If you are comfortable and you think the lie are ok, you need to bring the swing weight and adjust them internally. You need to pull the shaft out first to be able to do this for most OEM. Callaway , Titleist , Srixon and some other oem who design their club w/ access without pulling out the shaft first. Joe :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted February 27, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Joe, Found the order sheet on my irons... Here is some additional info, not sure what to make of it. -Head wieght calculation B (?) -Swing weight best swing weight possible ( :D ) When is heavy too heavy? I know your recommending D6, but these clubs don't feel bad/too heavy to me. They are heavy no doubt, but I don't get noticably fatigued playing and/or hitting 200-300 balls. What is the downside to an excessive swing weight rating? Specifics on the woods are as follows: Driver: R510tp 9.5* Zcom TW64 stiff GP Tour velvet grip. 45" in length. Swing weight is currently D2. 3Wood: Sonartec NP99 13* Proforce 85 Gold Tour Reserve stiff GP Tour wrap full cord midsize. 41 3/8" in length. Swing weight is currently C8.5. 4Wood: TaylorMade 300 tour 17* TTDG S300 GP Tour wrap full cord +1/16. 41" in length. Swing weight is currently D8.5. The lies to the best of my knowledge haven't been adjusted at all. The 4wood hasn't for sure since I bought it new from the local proshop. Fairly certain on the driver and 3 but I purchased them from some TSGers. So that brings me to some more questions... How much flexability is there in adjusting the lies of metal woods? I don't generally hit the driver off the deck so is there much benifit to adjusting the lie angle in this case? I'm comfortable adding lead tape to the 4wood to bring the swing weight into shape, but it would be too much tape for the driver and 3wood. Could I use the maleable wieght inserts and drive them into the shafts or would you recommend against that in favor of pulling the shafts and adding the weight internally? Sorry for the long post. Thanks for all your help. Gavin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey3108 Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Joe,Found the order sheet on my irons... Here is some additional info, not sure what to make of it. -Head wieght calculation B (?) -Swing weight best swing weight possible ( :D ) When is heavy too heavy? I know your recommending D6, but these clubs don't feel bad/too heavy to me. They are heavy no doubt, but I don't get noticably fatigued playing and/or hitting 200-300 balls. What is the downside to an excessive swing weight rating? Specifics on the woods are as follows: Driver: R510tp 9.5* Zcom TW64 stiff GP Tour velvet grip. 45" in length. Swing weight is currently D2. 3Wood: Sonartec NP99 13* Proforce 85 Gold Tour Reserve stiff GP Tour wrap full cord midsize. 41 3/8" in length. Swing weight is currently C8.5. 4Wood: TaylorMade 300 tour 17* TTDG S300 GP Tour wrap full cord +1/16. 41" in length. Swing weight is currently D8.5. The lies to the best of my knowledge haven't been adjusted at all. The 4wood hasn't for sure since I bought it new from the local proshop. Fairly certain on the driver and 3 but I purchased them from some TSGers. So that brings me to some more questions... How much flexability is there in adjusting the lies of metal woods? I don't generally hit the driver off the deck so is there much benifit to adjusting the lie angle in this case? I'm comfortable adding lead tape to the 4wood to bring the swing weight into shape, but it would be too much tape for the driver and 3wood. Could I use the maleable wieght inserts and drive them into the shafts or would you recommend against that in favor of pulling the shafts and adding the weight internally? Sorry for the long post. Thanks for all your help. Gavin From the marking, it looks like the rep didn't indicate what was supposed to be custom, or the guy who fit you know nothing at all about this.Anyway! Swingweight is more of an individual feel IMO. it's very personal, especially for extreme set up. I would have to say it's not about how heavy is to heavy, it's all about maximizing your potential w/ the club by matching it properly w/ your body posture. After that, build a set that are at least close enough being consistent on the spec through out the set. I can't tell you much what i should do for you and your club in term of what set up need to be, however looking at your 3 & 4 wood, some one just cut it to short from normal standard lenght. 43" on the 3 wood and 42.5" on the 4 wood ( I assumed you meant C 8.5 for the 4 wood ). Base on what you said here and how your iron set up, I would build your driver at least at 46" , 44 on your 3 wood and 43 or 43.5 on your 4 wood and bring the swing weight at around D6, and if possible...I would try to bring your irons at least a couple points to make it closer to the new woods set up. Definitely check on your lie and loft angle to get a better consistent impact and distance control. It will make the game so much more fun if you have a properly fitted club. Just make sure you got some one that knows what he is doing, not just a cut and glue shop who are looking for profit only. It's not easy to fit soem one like you, w/ patient and experiences...it shouldn't be a problem. Good Luck! Joe :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted February 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Thanks, Joe. Wish I was in cali I'd come check you out. Looks like I need to find a better fitter here in Miami. Do you know any? Sounds like I should be looking into some shafts, the wife wont like that :whistle: . Thanks again... Gavin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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