TM RAC "T" Stamp "Tour" Miura Forgings

[jich505]

Ric,

I hear ya, I am not complaining one bit about the irons I am playing, in fact the exact opposite, I ma very happy with the irons. I also just want to put an end to rumors one way or the other and finally get ONE version (the correct one). But I still like the irons! Call me naive or blind but I am basing my opinion strictly on the feel of the performance.

Extreme,

I guess I feel that if I were to pay full retail for a set of OTR irons at your a local shop I would still be paying $899 - 1000 for those irons and NOT get the feel that I have with the irons that I have. I understand the mis representation aspect that people are getting at (IF that is is true, I don't believe at this point) whether or not these are TRUE TOUR irons, but it seems like people are saying these are above retail standards but below ( by just a bit) the standards of the ones used on tour. Am I correct? I still believe that these are way above any standards in which REC golfers should have. Maybe I lucked out because cosmetically, mine are GREAT and in regards to the SW problems people are stating, do not exist in my irons. Also I feel the characteristics I listed in my other post are worth it also (no millings and Forged Hosel)

But like Ric said, I think this post has stayed fairly informative rather than the RAMBELING, JUGDEMENTAL tirades in the past.

But overall VERY happy with the irons and appreciate EDUCATED opinions and insight! :smile2:

[RicWeb]

Well stated...this is all I was saying......I'm not a rumor whore...but I will listen to many points of view and develop my own opinion.

[JohnnyTN]

If I am reading this correctly.. I dont think anyone is now saying they are not "tour" irons...just that the "t" stamp is for TRASH..or rejected Tour irons....

right ???

[joey3108]

I wish i took a pictures on every one of them i've work on. With my sharpies marking on them, I can tell how wack up one by one to the exact grams.

I only remember that a few of them have a minor blemish on the chroming but bad enough for production and I'm sure quite a few of them has a wack up weight but i can't remember how bad was that.

Joe :cool:

Hey Joe,

I saw in another thread about 300 forged you mentioned the Asian satin finshes. I agree with you 100%. The TM rac tour stuff has a very unique subtle satin finish. Did the "T" etched sets you worked on have the same finish as seen on the rac coin forged milled face sets? The finish looked different to me in the pics when I first saw them on bsg but I have never seen a set in person.

As far as my experiences goes , the finish are not as subtle like the RAC CB Japanese finish but similar to the Chinese one...which in my opinion is pretty close but definitely not like the one finish by US plater.

However, I do remember that i told the customer who own the iron that the plating has pitted and not quite perfect as a production one.

I'm sure if we built them correctly, Nothing is wrong w/ perfomance...off course as long the weight issue is not wack up that bad.

But the point here is, I' m not gonna buy anything overly charge/price if i know it has a possibility of a rejected items.

I've done it before buying putters head that has been in the oil drum for years for $25 each and refinish it nicely. Off course i told the customers what it is. I bought around 50 -60 heads and sold per head for $40. I can't lie that the putter has an original finish but yet they can't tell. I could've put all kind of fancy stamping to them and claim as a tour issue or what ever to make more $$$, but what i'm gonna say if i got cought red handed lying. Honestly speaking , I'm not good in covering my lie after lie, cuz sooner or later the smell will come out and it's a bad one. :-D :surprize:

Cheers!

Joe :cool: