Mach Line Tour by NGS

[PGAPro]

just purchased this from Chris last week before I left for a tournament, to no surprise I received it quickly and I am very excited about it, I have dealt with Gocchin on a number of occasions in the past and he has been great, Chris is no different, I told him exactly what I wanted and he shipped it across the world in a week, these guys are extremely professional to deal with around here and I will forever be comfortable when sending them money, here are some pics of the shaft for those of you who haven't seen one

I will have it installed tommorrow and do a full review in the next few days, I am very eager to try what many think is the next best thing as far as shafts go in Japan, the graphics are nice and clean with good coloring, not too much bling which I really like, anyhow, it will be installed tommorrow in a Cleveland XL Tour Issue Driver and then I will do a review for you guys, I am a +2 handicap so I think my performance review will be very helpful to those of you who haven't decided which Mach Line to try

Edited April 30, 2007 by PGAPro

[gocchin]

J,

Look forward to your feedback my friend. Indeed these shafts are hot! I see you ended up going with the Tour shaft. This shaft will be very very tight... the really stiff butt will provide superb feel, the low torque, low dispersion and if you can get your swing up to 110mph some real kick!! (^_^)

[Blader-X]

I'm very interested in this review. I'm going to have another Epon built with an NGS shaft but I'm between the Mach Line Pro80 and the Mach Line Tour.

PGAPro, could you share any insight as to why you choose the Tour over the other available NGS models. I would appreciate that very much if you could.

Gocchin, any addtional light you can shed on these two models I mentioned would also be great.

[PGAPro]

I'm very interested in this review. I'm going to have another Epon built with an NGS shaft but I'm between the Mach Line Pro80 and the Mach Line Tour.

PGAPro, could you share any insight as to why you choose the Tour over the other available NGS models. I would appreciate that very much if you could.

Gocchin, any addtional light you can shed on these two models I mentioned would also be great.

Blader, I just basically tried to pick one based off reading the NGS charts and the Tour seemed liked the weight and characteristics I was looking for, I got the shaft installed today and will hit it tommorrow, without hitting it the shaft feels softer than the Axiv I had in there, if it is too soft for me then I will sell it on here and get the X flex, I can't wait to try it out tommorrow and give a full review

[Blader-X]

Blader, I just basically tried to pick one based off reading the NGS charts and the Tour seemed liked the weight and characteristics I was looking for, I got the shaft installed today and will hit it tommorrow, without hitting it the shaft feels softer than the Axiv I had in there, if it is too soft for me then I will sell it on here and get the X flex, I can't wait to try it out tommorrow and give a full review

Yea, that's what I've been doing, just pouring over the numbers between the Pro80 and the Tour. I like the weight of the Pro80 but then intrigued as the Tour sounds a little close to the QuattroTech. The Axiv you replaced wasn't that the Axiv V7076?

[PGAPro]

Yea, that's what I've been doing, just pouring over the numbers between the Pro80 and the Tour. I like the weight of the Pro80 but then intrigued as the Tour sounds a little close to the QuattroTech. The Axiv you replaced wasn't that the Axiv V7076?

well I have a 7076, but my current gamer is a 7072 tipped a 1/2 inch

[Phillip Alexander]

I too look forward to the review and the comparison in characteristics between the Axiv and the Mach Line.

[gocchin]

Blader, I just basically tried to pick one based off reading the NGS charts and the Tour seemed liked the weight and characteristics I was looking for, I got the shaft installed today and will hit it tommorrow, without hitting it the shaft feels softer than the Axiv I had in there, if it is too soft for me then I will sell it on here and get the X flex, I can't wait to try it out tommorrow and give a full review

If it's too soft you can tip it too like you originally planned. I'm surprised that you're saying it feels softer than the Axiv but that is unshafted and uncut right? Specs show this to be a pretty stiff shaft.

[PGAPro]

If it's too soft you can tip it too like you originally planned. I'm surprised that you're saying it feels softer than the Axiv but that is unshafted and uncut right? Specs show this to be a pretty stiff shaft.

I'm saying shafted and installed it feels softer than the Axiv, but haven't said that I haven't hit it yet, so tommorrow will be deciding factor, but if my gut serves me right, I will be selling this one and getting the X Flex, I had it installed at about 45.5 inches so if I decided I didn't like it then whoever bought it could tip it how they like it, anyhow, we will see tommorrow my friend, the shaft looks great and I'm hoping it performs the same way for me, we shall see

[gocchin]

Fair enough J, let us know how it goes!

[PGAPro]

Day 1 Review

today was my first day to hit the Mach Line shaft and my review for Day 1 is an A, despite the advertised low kick point, I hit the club slighthy lower than the Axiv 7072 & 7076, the Mach Line is certainly a little longer than the Axiv, I hit balls with an Axiv today as well and the Mach Line was between 5-10 yards in front every time, the launch angle is perfect and although the shaft feels soft (Stiff with no tipping yet), I couldn't hit it left no matter how hard I swung at it, it is an extremely stable shaft with a nice kick, I generally give things a few days before I make the ultimate decision on whether or not it will be my gamer, but this shaft is very good and NGS certainly has a winner, I probably hit about 20 drives on the course with it testing, etc. and my only miss was a slight cut about 6-8 yards right of target, I hit the shaft extremely consistent (I am a very good driver of the golf ball normally with most shafts though), but my first impression of the shaft is very good, I will hit it again on Thursday before I decide whether or not to sell it and go with the X Flex

---it is long (longer than the Axiv)

---it is stable

---it doesn't feel quite as nice as the Axiv (but nothing else does either), but it does feel nice

---it is very consistent

after Thursday I will be able to give a full review on performance and feel and hopefully help those of you considering this shaft make a decision

Edited May 1, 2007 by PGAPro

[Blader-X]

Day 1 Review

today was my first day to hit the Mach Line shaft and my review for Day 1 is an A, despite the advertised low kick point, I hit the club slighthy lower than the Axiv 7072 & 7076, the Mach Line is certainly a little longer than the Axiv, I hit balls with an Axiv today as well and the Mach Line was between 5-10 yards in front every time, the launch angle is perfect and although the shaft feels soft (Stiff with no tipping yet), I couldn't hit it left no matter how hard I swung at it, it is an extremely stable shaft with a nice kick, I generally give things a few days before I make the ultimate decision on whether or not it will be my gamer, but this shaft is very good and NGS certainly has a winner, I probably hit about 20 drives on the course with it testing, etc. and my only miss was a slight cut about 6-8 yards right of target, I hit the shaft extremely consistent (I am a very good driver of the golf ball normally with most shafts though), but my first impression of the shaft is very good, I will hit it again on Thursday before I decide whether or not to sell it and go with the X Flex

---it is long (longer than the Axiv)

---it is stable

---it doesn't feel quite as nice as the Axiv (but nothing else does either), but it does feel nice

---it is very consistent

after Thursday I will be able to give a full review on performance and feel and hopefully help those of you considering this shaft make a decision

Thanks a ton PGAPro. You mentioned its trajectory is lower than the AxivV even though its a low kickpoint shaft. I've noticed that very same thing with the QuattroTech in my 3 wood, also a low kickpoint shaft. I'm very much liking the fact that you weren't able to hit a ball left as that is my major thing I'm fighting right now is the shot that has a little too much left to it. I'll definitely be keeping this shaft on the list as I try and decide between it and the Machline Pro80. Going to put a Roddio in the current driver and have Epon build another with a MachLine.

How does the "weight" of the shaft/club feel compared to the way the AxivV felt? Also, when you played the AxivV were you able to hit that shaft left as well? Thanks again for the initial review and do keep us posted as to how it goes in future sessions. You definitely have at least one very interested member here.

B

[PGAPro]

Thanks a ton PGAPro. You mentioned its trajectory is lower than the AxivV even though its a low kickpoint shaft. I've noticed that very same thing with the QuattroTech in my 3 wood, also a low kickpoint shaft. I'm very much liking the fact that you weren't able to hit a ball left as that is my major thing I'm fighting right now is the shot that has a little too much left to it. I'll definitely be keeping this shaft on the list as I try and decide between it and the Machline Pro80. Going to put a Roddio in the current driver and have Epon build another with a MachLine.

How does the "weight" of the shaft/club feel compared to the way the AxivV felt? Also, when you played the AxivV were you able to hit that shaft left as well? Thanks again for the initial review and do keep us posted as to how it goes in future sessions. You definitely have at least one very interested member here.

B

your welcome my friend, the reason I mentioned the trajectory is because I was expecting it to be higher than the Axiv (which I actually didn't want), but to my surprise it was slightly lower despite it having a low kickpoint versus the mid/high kick for the Axiv's I have, the weight of the shaft feels slightly heavier than the Axiv, but as mentioned above it is installed at 45.5 inches in case I try to sell it, overall my first session with it was very nice, but from a confidence standpoint I might end up with the X Flex, just not sure yet, I will certainly know on Thursday because I will have a nice practice session and play

[gocchin]

Good feedback J! The softness you perceived might just be the bend profile of this particular shaft... most tip soft low kick shafts "feel" softer. The bottom line is that the Mach Line performs... and that's what NGS is working at... using research and mathematics to distribute shaft rigidity and to create a shaft that performs and as you said it perfectly, feels stable.

As B said, the most important thing was that you couldn't hook this shaft even though it felt "softer" to you... and longer than the Axiv with lower trajectory? Wow~!

[Phillip Alexander]

This is probably a silly question, however do you know the cpms on the Mach Line and the Axiv.

I am actually considering one of the original Axivs, with a low kick point.

The review to date has been very good, and I'm sure we all look forward to future reviews.

[PGAPro]

Day 2 Review

it was another very good day with the Mach Line, after playing more with the shaft I have decided that it can handle anything that I can offer as far as swingspeed, keep in mind that I swing about 107-109 on average and I'm hitting a stiff flex that isn't tipped, I will use it one more round before making it my gamer, but at this point I would be willing to bet it is the new gamer, it is very similar to the Axiv, but it is longer..............it is every bit as consistent and has nice feel, for right now, I couldn't be happier

I want to thank Chris for meeting my needs in every way, especially since he was attempting to fit me into a brand new shaft that he didn't have very much experience with, this is a great shaft that is very stable and I would highly recommend it to those who are considering Mach Line, I do have the most expensive one so I can't speak for the rest of the line, but the Tour is a great shaft with perfect weight, none of my friends have ever seen a shaft like this one and that is cool as well, since they are basically all golf nuts who have hit nearly everything, now I have something different

I will play this weekend and give my final review of the shaft, but for now, I can most assure you that the Mach Line is my new gamer and it is every bit the quality of any upper line shaft that I have hit to date and I have played most everything, my only recommendation for NGS would be this shaft with a mid kick or a mid high kick option in the future, I have never liked a low kick shaft for my driver, but this one performs so well that I will certainly learn to adjust to the kickpoint, thanks again to TSG and Chris

Edited May 5, 2007 by PGAPro

[languidcrane]

Well your review took me over the edge... I am placing an order with Chris for the same shaft in x-flex (SS is 115mph on average).

Can't wait to get it now

I am either going to put it ia a Srizon ZR-600 or Cleveland Hi-Bore XL Tour. Both drivers are 8.5*. I was thinking about tipping it .5", but if the stiff is holding up to your 109mph swing I may not need to.

[gocchin]

I'm glad J we made the right call NOT to tip the shaft. I was pretty confident looking at the specs it could handle your swing. Now I'm really happy it worked out for you!

[PGAPro]

I'm glad J we made the right call NOT to tip the shaft. I was pretty confident looking at the specs it could handle your swing. Now I'm really happy it worked out for you!

the crazy thing with this shaft Gocchin is it doesn't feel very stiff, but no matter how hard I swing at it, it will not go left which is basically the reason I was playing the Axiv V, I like taking the left side out of play and the Mach Line does that for me, I really like it so far and I am thankful of the great service I have received here at TSG, I will certainly be doing more business with Chris in the future

[bogeydog]

Does anyone has the NGS website?

Do they make an iron shaft?

[Blader-X]

the crazy thing with this shaft Gocchin is it doesn't feel very stiff, but no matter how hard I swing at it, it will not go left which is basically the reason I was playing the Axiv V, I like taking the left side out of play and the Mach Line does that for me, I really like it so far and I am thankful of the great service I have received here at TSG, I will certainly be doing more business with Chris in the future

Have you by chance hit the Roddio shaft and if so how does the MachLine compare to that?

Also do you feel that the MachLine is better at taking the left side out of play than is the AxivV? Point being is that that left side is my fault. I had a great ball striking round yesterday but still found the left side a bit more than I would have liked to. I'm going to send this current set off to Chris for the Roddio, then have Epon work on a new driver with an even more open face and either the MachLine Tour you are playing in X or the MachLine Pro80 in X. Still just can't decide between the two. Any thoughts you may have would be completely welcome.

Thanks again for the update.

[PGAPro]

Have you by chance hit the Roddio shaft and if so how does the MachLine compare to that?

Also do you feel that the MachLine is better at taking the left side out of play than is the AxivV? Point being is that that left side is my fault. I had a great ball striking round yesterday but still found the left side a bit more than I would have liked to. I'm going to send this current set off to Chris for the Roddio, then have Epon work on a new driver with an even more open face and either the MachLine Tour you are playing in X or the MachLine Pro80 in X. Still just can't decide between the two. Any thoughts you may have would be completely welcome.

Thanks again for the update.

well, I have only played on the course with it for 2 rounds, but I haven't even come close to hitting one left yet, even when I try to go at it, my initial thought is that this shaft (Mach Line) is very very stable, as of right now, I would say it is more so than the Axiv V, but I think to accurately compare the two I would have to hit it a couple more rounds, I have been swinging very well lately and hitting it very solid with everything, so I want to see how it peforms when I'm not swinging well, then I will be able to tell if this is what I'm looking for....................I have not hit a Roddio yet, I want to try one, but if things keep going the way they have with this Mach Line then I'm going to be finished with my search for the perfect Driver shaft, I think Mach Line is that good, shafts are always different for each player, but I feel like I'm on to something here, I hope this helps your decision Edited May 5, 2007 by PGAPro

[Blader-X]

well, I have only played on the course with it for 2 rounds, but I haven't even come close to hitting one left yet, even when I try to go at it, my initial thought is that this shaft (Mach Line) is very very stable, as of right now, I would say it is more so than the Axiv V, but I think to accurately compare the two I would have to hit it a couple more rounds, I have been swinging very well lately and hitting it very solid with everything, so I want to see how it peforms when I'm not swinging well, then I will be able to tell if this is what I'm looking for....................I have not hit a Roddio yet, I want to try one, but if things keep going the way they have with this Mach Line then I'm going to be finished with my search for the perfect Driver shaft, I think Mach Line is that good, shafts are always different for each player, but I feel like I'm on to something here, I hope this helps your decision

Thanks for the reply. That is the key isn't it; finding a shaft that works when you're not swinging well. I've been doing the same of late (striking it very well) and the AxivV has just been wonderful. Still, though its going to be sent off next week to have Chris install a Roddio. Well see how that goes and then decide upon the MachLine. Very appreciative of all your feedback with this one. Let us know how it progresses.

[PGAPro]

the Mach Line has done the impossible and made the bag officially, the only thing the Mach Line lacks when compared to the Axiv is the overall feel, I personally think the Axiv V is the best feeling shaft I have ever hit, but for my swing, the Mach Line is just the better performer

Mach Line is perfect for my liking in terms of ball flight

Mach Line is 8-10 yards longer than the Axiv V

Mach Line is just like the Axiv V in the fact that it doesn't go left

if only NGS could get the same feel as the Axiv V, then we might be talking about the perfect shaft............ha ha, but for now, it is certainly as advertised, a great shaft that is very stable and flat out performs

I played with both again today and the Mach Line is the new gamer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks NGS and TSG

Edited May 6, 2007 by PGAPro

[Mjr. D]

I'm very interested in this review. I'm going to have another Epon built with an NGS shaft but I'm between the Mach Line Pro80 and the Mach Line Tour.

PGAPro, could you share any insight as to why you choose the Tour over the other available NGS models. I would appreciate that very much if you could.

Gocchin, any addtional light you can shed on these two models I mentioned would also be great.

Blader X, are you secretly Donald Trump? You must have 300 Epon's by now! HA HA! AWESOME!