Droopy Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Hi everybody, I emailed Chris late last night and he suggested that I post here in the fitting forum. I'm planning on purchasing an EPON 460 driver head and need some help with the shaft. I am... Height: 5’8” Handicap: 15.1 (but since I can't play that often, currently more like 25+) Driver SS: 90-100mph Tempo: Fairly smooth Normal Shot: high, slight fade Bad shot: Slice to the right OR coming over the top and pulling it way left Current Driver: TM R7 425 (neutral weighting) with an slightly tipped Accra T60 M4 45" My driver usually carries 220-240. I'm not the best ball striker and what saves me is that I have a pretty good short game. For example, when I was playing at least 5 times a week, I shot a 76 and only hit 1 GIR. I've been researching the forum and I'm not sure which shaft would work best for me. I've read so many good things about the Roddio shafts. On the stiffness designations: R - regular SR - stiff/regular (like a Firm flex) S - stiff Is this correct? Let me know if you need any more information. Can you guys give me some suggestions and recommendations? Thanks, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaykkr Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 my bad ball is to the right, strong fade or slice....good shots were straight. hardly ever hooked it but i went with the roddio WA series as I know i can aim down the left side of the fairway, good swings go straight, not so good swings fade to the centre and really bad ones go to the right side of the fairway or in the right rough, but very playable.. I did try the BA series, it did help me draw the ball, but the bad shot was to the right again... even if hit down the centre, wasn't sure where it will land. point is, once you get the right flex, think what you really want to do on not so ok swings and good swings, then pick the roddio shaft that helps you do it... looks like the WA series could work for you too, provided you are ok with aiming down the left or left centre of the fairway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droopy Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Thanks ajaykkr! I'm thinking the Roddio shaft would be good for me. Between WA and BA I'm still undecided. I think the Avix shaft maybe on the stiff side for me. Anyone else? Please let me know your suggestions and recommendations. Thanks, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Firstly the Roddio would be, in theory, installed by TSG or you can buy the shaft elsewhere. For a cheaper alternative, you can consider Dianama White if you are slicing since it is tip stiff and low spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droopy Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Thanks Duffer, That is also a shaft I'm considering. Please keep the suggestions coming; I really appreciate it! Thanks, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogeydog Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Roddio W6BA SR Flex - Sounds like you may need some spin. No shaft will cure a bad swing, but if your natural is left to right fade, BA should help that. my bad ball is to the right, strong fade or slice....good shots were straight. hardly ever hooked it but i went with the roddio WA series as I know i can aim down the left side of the fairway, good swings go straight, not so good swings fade to the centre and really bad ones go to the right side of the fairway or in the right rough, but very playable.. I did try the BA series, it did help me draw the ball, but the bad shot was to the right again... even if hit down the centre, wasn't sure where it will land. point is, once you get the right flex, think what you really want to do on not so ok swings and good swings, then pick the roddio shaft that helps you do it... looks like the WA series could work for you too, provided you are ok with aiming down the left or left centre of the fairway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droopy Posted July 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Hi bogeydog, The below advice was meant for me or ajaykkr? I am considering the W6BA SR or W5BA SR? Any advice between these two? Thanks, Steve Roddio W6BA SR Flex - Sounds like you may need some spin. No shaft will cure a bad swing, but if your natural is left to right fade, BA should help that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Hi bogeydog,The below advice was meant for me or ajaykkr? I am considering the W6BA SR or W5BA SR? Any advice between these two? Thanks, Steve droopy im in same boat as you. i opted for the w6ba as i could use the extra 7grams over the 5ba. let us know what you decide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Roddio W6BA SR Flex - Sounds like you may need some spin. No shaft will cure a bad swing, but if your natural is left to right fade, BA should help that. If one is slicing, would one be looking for a low spin shaft rather than a high spin shaft? The higher the spin and/or more active the tip, would in theory promote more slice if one is not able to swing the club at a correct path or casting. Of course, any shaft help is just a stop gap solution to a proper swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Depending on your weight preference it will be a W5 or W6 as you said. I went with the W5BA in the Epon 460 and it is longer AND straighter for me than any other shaft. I am also not the greatest ball striker, do not always hit the sweet spot and my bad shot is a strong fade or slice. I am not a hard hitter nor do I have an aggressive move at the top so I went with the BA which is very smooth to go along with a smooth transition. My swing is still changing to be straighter and more consistent but the roddio works for me well. 90-100 MPH is a pretty big range... you could be R to SR but would probably be okay with SR. Get the right shaft and make the right changes in your swing and it'll be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Depending on your weight preference it will be a W5 or W6 as you said. I went with the W5BA in the Epon 460 and it is longer AND straighter for me than any other shaft. I am also not the greatest ball striker, do not always hit the sweet spot and my bad shot is a strong fade or slice. I am not a hard hitter nor do I have an aggressive move at the top so I went with the BA which is very smooth to go along with a smooth transition. My swing is still changing to be straighter and more consistent but the roddio works for me well.90-100 MPH is a pretty big range... you could be R to SR but would probably be okay with SR. Get the right shaft and make the right changes in your swing and it'll be great. So T, is the Roddio a low spin or high spin shaft and tip active or tip stiff? For a 95 mph (average of 90-100), a Japanese R might be too soft without any tipping. One should be looking at 245 to 255 cpm (with a 5" clamp) at 45" driver for that SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 So T, is the Roddio a low spin or high spin shaft and tip active or tip stiff? For a 95 mph (average of 90-100), a Japanese R might be too soft without any tipping. One should be looking at 245 to 255 cpm (with a 5" clamp) at 45" driver for that SS. In most tests with the Roddio it is neither high nor low spin, it is optimal spin at least for me at around 2200-2400 backspin and only around 200 side spin (which IS quite low I guess). It is a a softer tip but mid kick and untipped may be on the soft side, which is why Roddio is usually installed following Roddio's specific headweight vs amount tipped to reach finished cpm. An SR would be right in that 242-252 range (with a 5" clamp). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droopy Posted July 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Thanks Spoon and gocchin, I wonder if the weight difference will be that noticeable? From my current shaft, the W5BA is lighter and the W6BA is a few grams heavier... Gocchin, Your description of your game mirrors my own! :) The only reason you went with the W5 is because you prefer a lighter shaft? Thanks! Depending on your weight preference it will be a W5 or W6 as you said. I went with the W5BA in the Epon 460 and it is longer AND straighter for me than any other shaft. I am also not the greatest ball striker, do not always hit the sweet spot and my bad shot is a strong fade or slice. I am not a hard hitter nor do I have an aggressive move at the top so I went with the BA which is very smooth to go along with a smooth transition. My swing is still changing to be straighter and more consistent but the roddio works for me well.90-100 MPH is a pretty big range... you could be R to SR but would probably be okay with SR. Get the right shaft and make the right changes in your swing and it'll be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Thanks Spoon and gocchin,I wonder if the weight difference will be that noticeable? From my current shaft, the W5BA is lighter and the W6BA is a few grams heavier... Gocchin, Your description of your game mirrors my own! :) The only reason you went with the W5 is because you prefer a lighter shaft? Thanks! Yeah I do prefer lighter shafts. My strength is my short game, 100 yards and in, chipping and putting. Because I don't swing so fast I go for lighter clubs. 50-60g in driver, 3 wood, utilities and 75g Axiv graphite in irons and 78g Tour AD graphite in wedges. The weight may not be that noticeable but I find that different weight shafts even within 5-10g will play a little different whether in flex/cpm or torque rating which will change the feel. In this case we're talking about 4.0 tq in the 6ba and 5.4 tq in the 5ba. This is not to say the higher torque is not tight in dispersion cause it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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