ajaykkr Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 I have the Epon 460 and the xdrive 460...... my natural shot is straight which turns into a fade when i go after it with the ocassional slice thrown in when i give it all I got.... average carry is 240-250 yards.... avg distance is 260-265 yards with the ocassional 290-300 yard drives... if I am not focused on fade biased drivers... what other driver heads I should consider trying... I am a single digit handicapper with most rounds in high 70s (read 79) and low 80s on a course rated 74.5/148.... I am looking for square faces...... only criteria is that they need to be as good as the above two ( i love those) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 A 148 slope? WOW What course is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 The MP Craft 425 and Srixon ZR-600 were considered "Athlete" models in Japan for the lower handicapper and good ball striker. In most reviews that I've read, pro reviewers have pointed out the Craft as for good ball strikers. The ZR-600 has been a consistent favorite of all Srixon Japan pros. Almost every single one still carries it for it's hot face and high ball speeds. Came second in the 2007 D1 (distance) Driver Shootout out of like 48 models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaykkr Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 A 148 slope? WOW What course is that? http://www.minisceongogolfclub.com/minisceongo-facts.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaykkr Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 The MP Craft 425 and Srixon ZR-600 were considered "Athlete" models in Japan for the lower handicapper and good ball striker. In most reviews that I've read, pro reviewers have pointed out the Craft as for good ball strikers. The ZR-600 has been a consistent favorite of all Srixon Japan pros. Almost every single one still carries it for it's hot face and high ball speeds. Came second in the 2007 D1 (distance) Driver Shootout out of like 48 models. Thanks, very helpful.... 1) Is the xdrive 460 considered more of an "Athlete" model than the MP Craft 425 or less? 2) Distance is important, but for me accuracy is equally important.. I want to be able to aim the driver at a line/point and land within a few yards of that line. Also, I am not so enthused by Srixon.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 By the way Ajay, why are you looking? The X-Drive and Epon are close to the best you can get. I don't know if the Craft 425 will be as long as either but it is as much an Athlete's model as the X-Drive if not more. It has been called a workable players driver, I think it may only be average in distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaykkr Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 (edited) By the way Ajay, why are you looking? The X-Drive and Epon are close to the best you can get. I don't know if the Craft 425 will be as long as either but it is as much an Athlete's model as the X-Drive if not more. It has been called a workable players driver, I think it may only be average in distance. No real reason.... I have had the epon 460 for all season and then i happened to get a great deal on the xdrive 460 and i like the driver as much as the epon... and I have not noticed any difference between the two in terms of the need for forgivenesss.....both are great drivers.simply the best I have ever played and its always a touch toss up on what to play on a given day.. Just trying to see if there is anything else in the same league..... Edited July 29, 2007 by ajaykkr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blader-X Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 With all the customization options Epon has, and I mean face angle, lie, shafts, there is nothing better out there. If you're a good ball striker it doesn't matter what you use. In fact if you're a good ball striker you want a club built the way you want it. Epon beats every company out there hands down when it comes to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaykkr Posted July 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 With all the customization options Epon has, and I mean face angle, lie, shafts, there is nothing better out there. If you're a good ball striker it doesn't matter what you use. In fact if you're a good ball striker you want a club built the way you want it. Epon beats every company out there hands down when it comes to that. point taken, but as I mentioned i already own the epon 460 and the xdrive 460... looking for suggestions for other drivers in the same league....my clubs are built the way I want, square and standard lie and 45" length with Roddio shafts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawika5150 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Since it looks like you already own two of the best out there, I can't see anything else on the market that would satisfy your curiosity. I myself have yet to try the X Drive, but I'm happy with the Epon and will look to see if I can get fitted with a Roddio. I'm sure it would make a big difference vs. the stock TD shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migoi Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Which driver came in first? The MP Craft 425 and Srixon ZR-600 were considered "Athlete" models in Japan for the lower handicapper and good ball striker. In most reviews that I've read, pro reviewers have pointed out the Craft as for good ball strikers. The ZR-600 has been a consistent favorite of all Srixon Japan pros. Almost every single one still carries it for it's hot face and high ball speeds. Came second in the 2007 D1 (distance) Driver Shootout out of like 48 models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer2 Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 With all the customization options Epon has, and I mean face angle, lie, shafts, there is nothing better out there. If you're a good ball striker it doesn't matter what you use. In fact if you're a good ball striker you want a club built the way you want it. Epon beats every company out there hands down when it comes to that. AGREED!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 http://www.minisceongogolfclub.com/minisceongo-facts.cfm Man.....that golf course looks like a candidate for the US Open!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Which driver came in first? Haha do you really want to know??? Based solely on distance, the Nike Sasquatch (test was performed before the Sumo came out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Which driver came in first? Haha do you really want to know??? Based solely on distance, the Nike Sasquatch (test was performed before the Sumo came out). Third was the New ViQ. All drivers were tested by different scratcg players with different swing speeds including ladies and then their best 10 drives for each driver and each player were counted and averaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaykkr Posted July 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 (edited) QUOTE(ajaykkr @ Jul 28 2007, 05:58 PM) http://www.minisceongogolfclub.com/minisceongo-facts.cfm Man.....that golf course looks like a candidate for the US Open!! it is tough... but fun... requires concenration on every shot or it can easily turn into double, triple, quad bogeys. Edited July 31, 2007 by ajaykkr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaykkr Posted August 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 WOW! the mpcraft 425 has to be the most solid looking driver ever... possibly the compact size.... on to the course tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 WOW! the mpcraft 425 has to be the most solid looking driver ever... possibly the compact size.... on to the course tomorrow... Oh so you did go for the MP Craft 425 after all. Awesome, let me know how it goes... definite feedback as I mentioned above is that it's for the good ball striker as witnessed by it's tour use for Mizuno staffers. ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 WOW! the mpcraft 425 has to be the most solid looking driver ever... possibly the compact size.... on to the course tomorrow... I predict.... It MIGHT be as good as the TS460 and the EPON, but not better.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaykkr Posted August 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Oh so you did go for the MP Craft 425 after all. Awesome, let me know how it goes... definite feedback as I mentioned above is that it's for the good ball striker as witnessed by it's tour use for Mizuno staffers. ^^ An opportunity arose... so had to take it.... I predict....It MIGHT be as good as the TS460 and the EPON, but not better.... probably, i am trying to work the ball nowdays and want to experiment.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaykkr Posted August 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 I have to say I am very impressed with the MPcraft 425.... very solid... it was a tad longer than the epon and xdrive.... Also, like the rombax 7x07 shaft in it...but a couple of the balls ballooned. could be the tee height given the face is not as deep as the epon / xdrive... more to follow after a few rounds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaykkr Posted August 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 The MPcraft 425cc is a very solid driver and could give any of the leading drivers a run for the money. Its shafted with the rombax 7x07 stiff... I have played 4 rounds with the driver now (since I have been testing it, I hit driver on all but par 3s...... Distance..... it was slightly longer than my gamer (epon 460 with roddio 6WA stiff).... 5-10 yards on average... but with the epon i have ocassional drives that shoot greater than 300 yards.... i had none with the Mizuno....but on average i was 5-10 yards longer (265-275) yards vs 260-265 yards..... carry seems to be the same.. but tend to get more roll. However, i had a couple of drives that just ballooned and were no longer than 200-220 yards.... never happened with the epon... Workability...... able to work the ball..... I normally can't draw the ball....sucess rate is 10-20%,,,,,i can hit a fade at will.... with the mizuno i could hit draws and if went after it they turned into strong draws/weak hooks.... But i attribute this to the shaft, I think. control..... with my gamer (epon 460) I now aim at a particular part of the fairway and expect it to land there... lands where I want to 8/10 times... I had no such control with the mizuno..... I was in the correct half of the fairway,,,but accuracy was not up to the epon.... Low shots....... One of the days i played it was very windy..... I was pleasantly surprised that I could hit the ball without much loss of distance (with the nike sasquatch i could hit a low drive that never rose beyond 10-15 feet from the fairway but flew 230 yards or so and got lots of roll) I haven;t been able to hit those drives since... with the other drivers,.. xdrive 460, Epon 460 etc... the ball used to climb, wind used to takeover and i will lose distance.... with the mizuno, i could hit those drives.... no problem.... The xdrive 460, mizuno Mpcraft 425 and epon 460 are all fine drivers... I wish i had the roddio in the Mpcraft to make a better comparison... But the point is there are a number of drivers for the better ball striker that could make the bag anyday..... I could not say that in any year..... used to be that one driver will work for me and nothing else.... this year.. any of the three i could play with and be happy..... p.s. i played bethpage black again yesterday where drive is the key to avoid a big score... i put the mpcraft in.... then pulled it out and replaced with my gamer..... for now the craft will have to do more to earn its way into the bag for those critical rounds.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartolomeo1 Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I just got done testing a X-Drive 460 vs. TourBurner V1 vs. Bridgestone J33Rwith multiple Oziks. The X-Drive came out on top for high launch and low spin for me. You can't go wrong with this head, just need to find the right shaft for your swing. Bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonHack Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 AGREED!!!!! double agree. Epons are the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 When I got my EPON 460 w/roddio shaft it was up against the tourstage 460 and 430p. I liked it but wasn't overly impressed. Slowly it kept edging upward. Now... It's the only Driver I'm playing with. I can do anything with it. I am calling my shots!!! The look on other peoples faces... Priceless. I want to emphasize that when I initially tested it I just wasn't overly impressed. But after learning the driver it simply has no overall match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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