gus Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 I'm considering shafting my new TS CB2's with these in X-flex and was looking for feedback from the experts. I live in a cold weather state and my hands and joints are showing signs of it taking it toll (they hurt). I practice and play all winter so a nice players CB setup with sweet graphite iron shafts are a must for me. I'm also looking for technical details like issues with getting up to swingweight, overall length, etc. If these balloon please let me know that as well...thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2_2 Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 I haven't tried these out for an extended period (borrowed some and didn't buy/keep them, which I regret). If you are swinging well enough to load them, they are amazingly smooth, and will give you fantastic control over your trajectory imho. I wasn't swinigng that great when I tried them, so I went with a lighter shaft for short term gains... dumb. There is a chance you could see a higher trajectory with these, atleast in the longer irons, as they are lighter than an S400/X100; most people I have worked with hit the ball higher atleast a bit higher when they go to a lighter shaft. However, the AD pros are quite stout, have low torque, and are a mid-high or high bendpoint shaft if memory serves, so they should't baloon. Chris or someone else might be able to comment about the swingweight and length issues, but the last time I spoke to someone about them, I was told that they were designed to replicate/replace a steel shaft used by a better player (scratch/pro) so the balance point should be such that you could install them at "standard" length and get a reasonable swingweight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 The pros are heavier than some steel shafts. They weigh from 100=118g depending on which shaft. Swingweight should not be a problem unless you want like D5 or something. Honestly I love the GD shafts. My Axiv graphite iron shafts are on the shelf right now and I have two sets of the Tour AD AD-75 and AD-65 in my irons. SOOOOO smooth, long and tight. All the GD iron shafts have mid kickpoints and do not balloon at all, even my lighter weight ones. Torque on the Pro's is at 1.5* which is pretty much steel like. You will pretty much get the dispersion of steel but the performance and feel of graphite. If you can splurge for them I think they are well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2_2 Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Thoughts from a man in the know, thanks T. One question on the AD-Pro's though, aren't they mid-high or high bend/kick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted September 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) Awesome guys, knowing GD Japan it doesn't surpise me a bit that they are awesome. It's really nice as well that they offer them in taper tip and progressive weighting. Really makes builting them tight pretty easy and as long as they are consistant from a frequency standpoint then no worries at all. I'm a pretty mid to low spin guys so ballooning sounds out as well....cool. Can someone post a quick pic of the Pro's for an old HO please. Oh yeah, as long as I can get them somewhere in the D2-D3 range then I'm pumped! In relation to cost; I don't even want to think about the cash invested in these! Tourstage XBlade CB2's with GD Tour AD Pro's; ouch! Gonna be nice however... Edited September 29, 2007 by BigBen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted September 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 I have another question; I hear form a very reliable source that GD Japan offerred a shaft a few yrs back called something like the Black G's maybe? I guess they are very expensive and very hard to find but that these are the best graphite shaft option they have ever produced. I guess the paint job was awesome; kinda ion into a black tip section...cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2_2 Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 (edited) As I pm'd, the Black G is still on the GD Japan website. Also, a friend in Japan (not a big golfer, but he called around) said they were still available earlier this year... the retail is ~ 14000 yen but they were selling for ~ $600 for a set of 6 ( ie shafts for 5-PW). Gocchin or Chris would have to confirm whether or not they are still available though... and T, how old are these? Edited September 29, 2007 by K2_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted September 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 So you are talking $700-$800 for a set of shafts; that's gonna leave a mark! I guess these babies are real deal. I will take a butique set of exotic J specs shafted up with black G's please...$4800 no problem! I feel qualified to say this illness costs a lot of money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 The Black G's were an older model before Tour AD time... they are slightly lighter than the Pro's and have low kick points on the longer iron shafts. They also have higher torque and are parallel tip. The Tour AD's being taper is a massive plus for me. Every time I wanted to put the Axiv's which are parallel in a set of irons I had to bore them out to 0.370. The Axiv's were smooth and played much softer than the GD's but they just didn't feel right in my hands. Honestly the AD-65 and 75 for me feel like superlightweight steel with nice feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted September 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Good, sounds like I'm on track then. I really like the look of that Epon putter gocchin...classy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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