swingit Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi! can anyone tell me about this shaft and how it plays? Checked out the website but its only in Japanese,so cant really figure out the specs. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi! can anyone tell me about this shaft and how it plays? Checked out the website but its only in Japanese,so cant really figure out the specs. Any help is appreciated. Thanks! From the catalog/website, it is not a constant weight as in 3001 and its 97 to 88 g for stiff flex with low/mid kp. I have the 3001 in R and the AC10 R80 but on different heads. I refer the feel of the 3001 (rifle like stepless) over the AC10 (step). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgui Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 What is the difference between shimada ks 7001 and ks 3001? I am looking for a lighter steel shaft, with some kick. I did not like the Nspro 750 as I think it is too whimpy. I like the swing feel of Riffle but find it too stiff. Quite like the Ns-pro 850 but find it has too much vibration and does not offer the swing feel .. Is there a shaft that feels like ks3001 (stepless and with some kick) but lighter ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 If you have the budget, all the characteristics you're describing... stepless, kick, swing feel, no vibration is pointing towards graphite shafts. The 3001 from Shimada is actually stepped. The 7001 is the newer model and is low kicking while the 3001 was mid kick. They are both constant weight shafts in the same weight range. The NS Pro 750 is definitely soft and you need to be careful of flex with that model. What's your swing speed and how far do you hit your 7 iron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgui Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 If you have the budget, all the characteristics you're describing... stepless, kick, swing feel, no vibration is pointing towards graphite shafts. The 3001 from Shimada is actually stepped. The 7001 is the newer model and is low kicking while the 3001 was mid kick. They are both constant weight shafts in the same weight range. The NS Pro 750 is definitely soft and you need to be careful of flex with that model. What's your swing speed and how far do you hit your 7 iron? Gocchin, thanks.. Not sure about swing speed, my 7-iron is about 145-155 yards but my 5-iron only 170 yards (PRGR 502 M40 steel shaft similar to ns-pro steel shaft 850 regular) - like this shaft but find it a bit too much vibration, does not offer the swing like feel of a rifle, also prefer slightly lighter for longer irons such as 5-6 irons. (My driver 210-230 yards and 3 wood 190-200 with a fujikura rombax SR flex). I played about 20 hc, 92. I am 1.77m height 70kg, has small hands, not strong. Does 7001 offer the same riffle-feel (flighted) as the 3001, and lighter for the longer irons ? I do not dare to switch to graphite, as I have been using a steel shaft, as I may end up using more hands if the shaft is too light/ whimpy. (I remember when I used the nspro 750 regular in the past - i ended using a lot more hands (more distance but weak control or direction) Also, I prefer the same type of shaft for my full set of irons (include my wedges). But then do you have any good recommendation for graphite shafts (and weight range) that offers riffle shaft (flighted) feel for control and smoothness, but easier/ more kick feel ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Gocchin, thanks.. Not sure about swing speed, my 7-iron is about 145-155 yards but my 5-iron only 170 yards (PRGR 502 M40 steel shaft similar to ns-pro steel shaft 850 regular) - like this shaft but find it a bit too much vibration, does not offer the swing like feel of a rifle, also prefer slightly lighter for longer irons such as 5-6 irons. (My driver 210-230 yards and 3 wood 190-200 with a fujikura rombax SR flex). I played about 20 hc, 92. I am 1.77m height 70kg, has small hands, not strong. Does 7001 offer the same riffle-feel (flighted) as the 3001, and lighter for the longer irons ? I do not dare to switch to graphite, as I have been using a steel shaft, as I may end up using more hands if the shaft is too light/ whimpy. (I remember when I used the nspro 750 regular in the past - i ended using a lot more hands (more distance but weak control or direction) Also, I prefer the same type of shaft for my full set of irons (include my wedges). But then do you have any good recommendation for graphite shafts (and weight range) that offers riffle shaft (flighted) feel for control and smoothness, but easier/ more kick feel ? Definitly, the Axiv Iron shaft is a very good choice. It is NOT whippy at all and plays rather stiff, definitely stiffer than the 750GH. Another great thing is it is ascending weight, meaning the longer iron shafts are lighter and progress to heavier as the irons get shorter. The Axiv is very smooth and controlled and definitely does not have vibrations like steel. You can swing normally without worrying too much about being too much hands as you say. Based on your distances and weight requirements, you could get the 758M which is rated up to 99mph driver speed. It probably has similar stiffness to the M-40 Inspec light steel but more feel and definitely more distance. It definitely plays between a regular and stiff/regular flex. It's not uncommon to see users including myself use Axiv in their wedges as well. One thing you will find is the increased feel provides touch around the greens and the Axiv works well in your set because the wedge shafts are heavier. I'm not sure what your set makeup is but I'm guessing you're carrying 5-PW + 2 wedges? If that is the case you could get 5-9 + 3 wedge shafts that would weigh the following: 5 iron - 74g 6 - 76g 7 - 78g 8 - 80g 9 - 82g wedges - 84g So as you can see the longer irons will have lighter shafts, providing more forgiveness and distance but the short irons will be heavier for more stable control. The torque on the Axiv set is also very steel like and gets tighter as the irons get shorter ranging from 2.3* for the 5 iron down to a very steel like 1.8* for the wedges. There are other graphite shafts that are very good but the Axiv fits the characteristics you're looking for the most. Shimada makes a good shaft too, but it won't be better if not the same as it's NS Pro equivalent afterall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgui Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Definitly, the Axiv Iron shaft is a very good choice. It is NOT whippy at all and plays rather stiff, definitely stiffer than the 750GH. Another great thing is it is ascending weight, meaning the longer iron shafts are lighter and progress to heavier as the irons get shorter. The Axiv is very smooth and controlled and definitely does not have vibrations like steel. You can swing normally without worrying too much about being too much hands as you say. Based on your distances and weight requirements, you could get the 758M which is rated up to 99mph driver speed. It probably has similar stiffness to the M-40 Inspec light steel but more feel and definitely more distance. It definitely plays between a regular and stiff/regular flex. It's not uncommon to see users including myself use Axiv in their wedges as well. One thing you will find is the increased feel provides touch around the greens and the Axiv works well in your set because the wedge shafts are heavier. I'm not sure what your set makeup is but I'm guessing you're carrying 5-PW + 2 wedges? If that is the case you could get 5-9 + 3 wedge shafts that would weigh the following: 5 iron - 74g 6 - 76g 7 - 78g 8 - 80g 9 - 82g wedges - 84g So as you can see the longer irons will have lighter shafts, providing more forgiveness and distance but the short irons will be heavier for more stable control. The torque on the Axiv set is also very steel like and gets tighter as the irons get shorter ranging from 2.3* for the 5 iron down to a very steel like 1.8* for the wedges. There are other graphite shafts that are very good but the Axiv fits the characteristics you're looking for the most. Shimada makes a good shaft too, but it won't be better if not the same as it's NS Pro equivalent afterall. Does the 758M provides slightly more flex for the 5-6 irons as compared with the ns-pro-850? Based on your suggestion 758M shaft - they appear rather lengthy, ie as indicated on TSG is quite long (5-iron shaft at 38.5 inches), can I have it at 37.5 or 38 inches ? will this reduce the weight further ? Also is it possible to have sligthly more flex for the 5 and 6 irons, and less flex for shorter irons (but not reducing the weight)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Does the 758M provides slightly more flex for the 5-6 irons as compared with the ns-pro-850?Based on your suggestion 758M shaft - they appear rather lengthy, ie as indicated on TSG is quite long (5-iron shaft at 38.5 inches), can I have it at 37.5 or 38 inches ? will this reduce the weight further ? Also is it possible to have sligthly more flex for the 5 and 6 irons, and less flex for shorter irons (but not reducing the weight)? Those are unfinished raw lengths that need to be butt trimmed to your specs. Just like new driver shafts that come in 46". Standard graphite setups usually have a 38" 5 iron. As for the flex, iron shafts naturally play that way. The shorter they get the stiffer they get for accuracy and control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgui Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Great, what type of heads would suit the Axiv 758M iron shafts ? The epon af701-501 or the geotech MH65 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Great, what type of heads would suit the Axiv 758M iron shafts ? The epon af701-501 or the geotech MH65 ? If you're going to spend that much on the shaft you may as well go for a top quality forged iron to match and that would be either Epon depending on what you're looking for. Epon offers the Axiv as an option too so it would come at only an upgrade cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgui Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 If you're going to spend that much on the shaft you may as well go for a top quality forged iron to match and that would be either Epon depending on what you're looking for. Epon offers the Axiv as an option too so it would come at only an upgrade cost. You are probably right. I would actually prefer a progressive set of irons such as the J33, but with more technology/ feel like the epon (but do not really like mix and match such as 701/501/301). Any idea if epon is coming out with such progressive set ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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