Epon 701 and 502 loft* info needed

[gbs]

I am currently gaming Epon 701 5 - 7 and Epon 502 from 8 - pw.

anyone knows the difference between the gap from 8 iron 502s and the 7 iron 701?

I find that i am consistently hitting 130-135 meters with the 8 iron but the 7 iron goes 150 -155 meters effortlessly. i feel that the gap is too much.

Edited November 8, 2010 by gbs

[gocchin]

B, the 502 8 iron is 35* and the 7 iron in the 701 is 31* plus the 701 is naturally more of a distance performer.

[gbs]

B, the 502 8 iron is 35* and the 7 iron in the 701 is 31* plus the 701 is naturally more of a distance performer.

Thanks T,

How about the loft for the 502s in the 7 iron?

[gbs]

T another question for you,

if i change from my current steel shaft to graphite , should i go for similar weights or heavier? as my current gamer GS 95 in R flex which i don't have any problems with.

[FatMan]

Loft of the 502's 7 iron is 31*

Didn't realize until now that they strengthened the 7-PW lofts from the 501s.

Edited November 8, 2010 by FatMan

[gbs]

Loft of the 502's 7 iron is 31*

Didn't realize until now that they strengthened the 7-PW lofts from the 501s.

Thanks for info, I was hitting 140-145 meters before with the same 7 (701s) since i improved i didn't realise that the distance followed suit.

[FatMan]

Thanks for info, I was hitting 140-145 meters before with the same 7 (701s) since i improved i didn't realise that the distance followed suit.

B, I would take your distance improvement anytime

BTW, is it just your 7 iron distance that increased or including your 5 & 6? You might want to swap it or them out with the longer 502 irons if you now can live w/o the added forgiveness of the 701 or you could add a 701 8 iron to bridge the gap . Although, you would end up having 2 irons labeled "8" in the bag.

[gbs]

B, I would take your distance improvement anytime

BTW, is it just your 7 iron distance that increased or including your 5 & 6? You might want to swap it or them out with the longer 502 irons if you now can live w/o the added forgiveness of the 701 or you could add a 701 8 iron to bridge the gap . Although, you would end up having 2 irons labeled "8" in the bag.

I have a full set of 701s 5-pw i bought the 502s 8-pw as an experiment. knowing that my game improved and wanting to get a set that is more workable so i bought those to see whether i can really use them.

I can now do without the forgiveness of the 701s i might complete the whole set or look for another set of irons. Something like what you are gaming now. :)

my 6 iron has increased in distance but not as significant as my 7 iron. As for now i really like a more compact and a thinner top line than the 701s, so the hunt begins.

How do you like your Yamaha V forged?

Maybe i just bend my 7 iron to 32* , maybe thats a solution for the time being.

Edited November 8, 2010 by gbs

[gocchin]

B, if you're hitting your 7 iron 155 meters.... that's like 170y... that is pretty darn good. You could play stiff steel no problem with that distance.

You shouldn't play graphite shafts under 90g as you don't need to.

[ant]

imho generally not a good idea to mix them irons like that, you bound to have inconsistencies. good club builder can do their best to match them for you, its not just about lofts, but personally i still wont do that. just switch to the set you like entirely and stick to it, will pay off in a long run.

I am currently gaming Epon 701 5 - 7 and Epon 502 from 8 - pw.

anyone knows the difference between the gap from 8 iron 502s and the 7 iron 701?

I find that i am consistently hitting 130-135 meters with the 8 iron but the 7 iron goes 150 -155 meters effortlessly. i feel that the gap is too much.

[gbs]

imho generally not a good idea to mix them irons like that, you bound to have inconsistencies. good club builder can do their best to match them for you, its not just about lofts, but personally i still wont do that. just switch to the set you like entirely and stick to it, will pay off in a long run.

Totally agreed. thats why i am looking into a whole complete set. I was just experimenting whether i could hit those 502s initially rather than buying the whole set and finding out i didn't like them.

[EPONfreak]

If your 7 iron is Disproportionately longer than your 8 iron but your 6 iron isn't significantly longer than your 7 iron the reality is it's likely to be the indian not the arrow. You could adjust the lofts to give the distance gaps you need, this is quite common, but confidence and swing are more

Likely the answer. For what it's worth when testing the 502 I found the distance extraordinary but I didn't strike the 701 as well as the sole doesn't suit me. If you are achieving better results with one model over another then design properties form part of the equation. All in all, go with what gives you the most confidence. It's a hard enough game without worrying about what you have in your hand when you're addressing the ball!

[Spoon]

701 former user and 502 current user. the 701s are longer than the specs they present. 502 are still long but roughly a half a club weaker. love

the lofts of the 502 and actually use a 4iron 701 as my 4 iron in the set. love the height especially of the tee on par3s.

[gbs]

If your 7 iron is Disproportionately longer than your 8 iron but your 6 iron isn't significantly longer than your 7 iron the reality is it's likely to be the indian not the arrow. You could adjust the lofts to give the distance gaps you need, this is quite common, but confidence and swing are more

Likely the answer. For what it's worth when testing the 502 I found the distance extraordinary but I didn't strike the 701 as well as the sole doesn't suit me. If you are achieving better results with one model over another then design properties form part of the equation. All in all, go with what gives you the most confidence. It's a hard enough game without worrying about what you have in your hand when you're addressing the ball!

Thanks for the advice, I actually decided to bend the 7 iron this wkend, lets see the results next week.

[FatMan]

How do you like your Yamaha V forged?

Love them! Logic says that I shouldn't be playing them but, they setup very well to my eye & for whatever reason, I seem to concentrate more on my ball striking when I use them. Soft, crisp & solid feel to them. Not as forgiving & buttery soft as the Epons but overall, they are great irons IMO.

[gbs]

Love them! Logic says that I shouldn't be playing them but, they setup very well to my eye & for whatever reason, I seem to concentrate more on my ball striking when I use them. Soft, crisp & solid feel to them. Not as forgiving & buttery soft as the Epons but overall, they are great irons IMO.

Have you tried Miuras? If yes how they compare?

[FatMan]

Have you tried Miuras? If yes how they compare?

Sorry, haven't had the chance to try Miuras. Hopefully, someone who has tried both will chime in.

[gbs]

If your 7 iron is Disproportionately longer than your 8 iron but your 6 iron isn't significantly longer than your 7 iron the reality is it's likely to be the indian not the arrow. You could adjust the lofts to give the distance gaps you need, this is quite common, but confidence and swing are more

Likely the answer. For what it's worth when testing the 502 I found the distance extraordinary but I didn't strike the 701 as well as the sole doesn't suit me. If you are achieving better results with one model over another then design properties form part of the equation. All in all, go with what gives you the most confidence. It's a hard enough game without worrying about what you have in your hand when you're addressing the ball!

After reading your comments i realised yes, i actually do strike the ball better with the 502s too well except that 7 iron from 701. i get a cleaner more crisp contact with the 502s. Thanks

[gbs]

Sorry, haven't had the chance to try Miuras. Hopefully, someone who has tried both will chime in.

I tried a miura giken the other day and if i am not wrong its also a 1 piece technology like your yamahas thats why i asked. I actually like its feel. Soft yet solid sorry i don't know how to describe better. too bad never had a chance to try the Yamahas

Edited November 10, 2010 by gbs

[ant]

afaik all Miuras are two piece hosel and head welded. Miura advertise it as advantage and there are folks who gotta tell you how inferior that is in their opinion to one piece design. truth is its all bunch of bs and doesnt really matter. they have a very unique sharp but not harsh feel to them ie you can feel ball compression to a great extent, feels like it stays on the face longer too and its not muted or watered down softer kinda feeling eg comparing to Mizuno for instance. talking about MG blade here btw, dunno about their cbs feel wise but they all two piece i believe. feel is subjective tho so this might not make sense to some folks but thats what i feel and prefer over buttery or super soft or just plain muted. alot of feel in those MG blades.

I tried a miura giken the other day and if i am not wrong its also a 1 piece technology like your yamahas thats why i asked. I actually like its feel. Soft yet solid sorry i don't know how to describe better. too bad never had a chance to try the Yamahas

[gbs]

afaik all Miuras are two piece hosel and head welded. Miura advertise it as advantage and there are folks who gotta tell you how inferior that is in their opinion to one piece design. truth is its all bunch of bs and doesnt really matter. they have a very unique sharp but not harsh feel to them ie you can feel ball compression to a great extent, feels like it stays on the face longer too and its not muted or watered down softer kinda feeling eg comparing to Mizuno for instance. talking about MG blade here btw, dunno about their cbs feel wise but they all two piece i believe. feel is subjective tho so this might not make sense to some folks but thats what i feel and prefer over buttery or super soft or just plain muted. alot of feel in those MG blades.

ahhhh my mistake always thought the Miuras are 1 piece. Always been an Epon fan rather than Miura. :)