wmclarenf1 Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Am looking for a driver head for me Black Widow project : And am considering the Romaro 435LX which I can;t demo. For those wh have hit this head, have you also tried the JBeam/Crazy 435? If you have, feedback on the following will be much appreciated: 1. Trajectory : Loft and loft and assuming shaft is the same, which launch higher/lower and was the difference significant as in maybe the 435 in 9* played like the Jbeam in 10.5* for example. 2. Spin/Roll : Which spins/rolls more? 3. Distance : Which won in terms of carry, roll and overall distance? 4. Forgiveness : Which was more forgiving? 5. Feel : I know this is subjective but which face felt harder? 6. Sound : Which was louder, higher pitch or more muted? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Don't know about the romaro buti had two drivers Today 435 jbeam with a bb7s and a kamui TP07s stock shaft both 9* and the kamui obliterated the jbeam.. Kamui was lower spin, higher launch More roll and much easier to launch. My new gamer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Don't know about the romaro buti had two drivers Today 435 jbeam with a bb7s and a kamui TP07s stock shaft both 9* and the kamui obliterated the jbeam.. Kamui was lower spin, higher launch More roll and much easier to launch. My new gamer! sorry for the off topic mclaren... but what the...!! i can't imagine anything keeping up with my 435, not to mention "obliterating" it...conforming or not!!! i need to hear more about this kamui in another thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 sorry for the off topic mclaren... but what the...!! i can't imagine anything keeping up with my 435, not to mention "obliterating" it...conforming or not!!! i need to hear more about this kamui in another thread! Just figured he could ad more choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Don't know about the romaro buti had two drivers Today 435 jbeam with a bb7s and a kamui TP07s stock shaft both 9* and the kamui obliterated the jbeam.. Kamui was lower spin, higher launch More roll and much easier to launch. My new gamer! Just figured he could ad more choices. No issues here. I am after all looking for alternatives for Black Widow :-) So C, was the TP7 longer than the 435 on every hole and how much longer? 5/10/15 meters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 No issues here. I am after all looking for alternatives for Black Widow :-) So C, was the TP7 longer than the 435 on every hole and how much longer? 5/10/15 meters? Not every hole, my playing partners driver I must have hit it in a dozen holes pure hit for pure hit The tp7 was longer, 10 yards, they were within each other but the tp07 Was more consistent and flighted better.. Could also be that mine was open face angle While the 435 was square. I'm very verybhappy withbthe tpo7 my new gamer. I never gamed the 435, or425 despite owning them before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 The 435 is considered one of the longest drivers ever made so to say the TP07 obliterated the 435 is quite shocking. I have both here and for me the 435 is longer, though the Ryoma is still the longest. That said the TP07s was the stock shaft and for me it kept fading, while the Crazy has the LY01 which works with my swing very well. I should put up my review of the Romaro 435LX, I haven't as I really am not that driver's target audience. Like the Crazy it is very penetrating and low spin. Feel is better though on the Romaro I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 The 435 is considered one of the longest drivers ever made so to say the TP07 obliterated the 435 is quite shocking. I have both here and for me the 435 is longer, though the Ryoma is still the longest. That said the TP07s was the stock shaft and for me it kept fading, while the Crazy has the LY01 which works with my swing very well. I should put up my review of the Romaro 435LX, I haven't as I really am not that driver's target audience. Like the Crazy it is very penetrating and low spin. Feel is better though on the Romaro I thought. Thanks T, When you say like the Crazy 435, the Romaro 435LX is very penetrating and low spin so you would say a Crazy 435 10.5* = Romaro 435LX 10* or would the Romaro be slightky lower as it is 0.5* less in loft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 Hmmm I think there may be more variance for the Romaro so they could be close depending on what the real loft of the Romaro actually is. Jbeam is typically real loft and also the weight configuration on the JBeam can alter ball flight. Did you change your weights on your Jbeam/Crazy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 (edited) Hmmm I think there may be more variance for the Romaro so they could be close depending on what the real loft of the Romaro actually is. Jbeam is typically real loft and also the weight configuration on the JBeam can alter ball flight. Did you change your weights on your Jbeam/Crazy? Nope. Mine weights were stock from Jbeam. If I found JBeam 435 10.5* a tad high, what do you reckon will launch say 0.5% lower for Romaro 435LX and Kamui Pro TP07? The same FEX55 shaft that was in the Jbeam 435 will be going into the final decided head. Edited December 8, 2012 by wmclarenf1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 The 435 is considered one of the longest drivers ever made so to say the TP07 obliterated the 435 is quite shocking. I have both here and for me the 435 is longer, though the Ryoma is still the longest. That said the TP07s was the stock shaft and for me it kept fading, while the Crazy has the LY01 which works with my swing very well. I should put up my review of the Romaro 435LX, I haven't as I really am not that driver's target audience. Like the Crazy it is very penetrating and low spin. Feel is better though on the Romaro I thought. As much rave the crazy 435 II has it was simply not suited for me. This was shafted with a crazy lyo1 7.4 Shaft compliments of a trade with Robbie . I could not launch the thing for the life of me and it was only 10* petethepilot was with me and got to hit the club. Was very lowlwunching and a bit of a struggle. I actually preferred the jbeam 425 crazy cb50 7.7 of stew which I launched higher and more penetrating despite The stiffer flex.. So yes based on my experience I'd choose the kamui any day fitted with a proper shaft. I am fine with the stock 69s shaft. I'd like to get fitted for a crazy in japan this April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 T may be referring to the original 435 and not the 435II. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted December 8, 2012 Report Share Posted December 8, 2012 As much rave the crazy 435 II has it was simply not suited for me. This was shafted with a crazy lyo1 7.4 Shaft compliments of a trade with Robbie . I could not launch the thing for the life of me and it was only 10* petethepilot was with me and got to hit the club. Was very lowlwunching and a bit of a struggle. I actually preferred the jbeam 425 crazy cb50 7.7 of stew which I launched higher and more penetrating despite The stiffer flex.. So yes based on my experience I'd choose the kamui any day fitted with a proper shaft. I am fine with the stock 69s shaft. I'd like to get fitted for a crazy in japan this April. oh wait...you're talking about the 435ii instead of the original 435. now i can believe what you're saying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 oh wait...you're talking about the 435ii instead of the original 435. now i can believe what you're saying! Yes435II. I sold it to sandee. Ask him about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Yes435II. I sold it to sandee. Ask him about it ah...got it. i haven't hit the ii but by all accounts (at least in my research) the original is longer...but you still have me interested in this kamui! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 ah...got it. i haven't hit the ii but by all accounts (at least in my research) the original is longer...but you still have me interested in this kamui! my 405d yamaha is finally dethroned after reigning supreme for several years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 my 405d yamaha is finally dethroned after reigning supreme for several years! It appears so. I'm inclined to get crazy 435 for the black widow project but am also thinking trying the tp07 will be new and perhaps a more fun. Trying to google to find out more as the high launch description you gave has me worried as I have no trouble getting it up... In both senses lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 It appears so. I'm inclined to get crazy 435 for the black widow project but am also thinking trying the tp07 will be new and perhaps a more fun. Trying to google to find out more as the high launch description you gave has me worried as I have no trouble getting it up... In both senses lol I think its the shaft. It's stock BUZZ shaft. I asked tario about it. I would love to try a FEX or even a bb7s but combo is soo good il leave it alone.. What's your SS? Mine is around 112 so maybe that's why it's high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I think its the shaft. It's stock BUZZ shaft. I asked tario about it. I would love to try a FEX or even a bb7s but combo is soo good il leave it alone.. What's your SS? Mine is around 112 so maybe that's why it's high. I really don't know with my swing speed is but if I have to guess I would say about 43 m/s or 96mph. I read via the bad traslation on some japanese blog some fitter played it with a FEX 65SR and said (I think) the=at he would select a higher loft for the TP07 so his experience was really differebt form yours. COuld be the shaft as you say. I've emailed Kamui and Romaro asking for loft advice for their heads based on my experience with the JBeam 435 10.5. Hopefully they will respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 I really don't know with my swing speed is but if I have to guess I would say about 43 m/s or 96mph. I read via the bad traslation on some japanese blog some fitter played it with a FEX 65SR and said (I think) the=at he would select a higher loft for the TP07 so his experience was really differebt form yours. COuld be the shaft as you say. I've emailed Kamui and Romaro asking for loft advice for their heads based on my experience with the JBeam 435 10.5. Hopefully they will respond. Fwiw my dads was the non conforming HC 11* hand selected loft closer to 12 And he launched it lower than his anser 11, titty d3 10.5 and epon HT 11*. Had a meaner trajectory with generous roll.also using stock shaft 55g sr ss 90mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerobound Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 The jBeam has treated me well for a while now and I love how it keeps the spin rate low. The Romaro is a good competitor and I feel like it gets up a little more than the jBeam head. I see the big difference when I really go after one. The jBeam is easier to keep that penetrating trajectory without having to worry about any ballooning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 Fwiw my dads was the non conforming HC 11* hand selected loft closer to 12 And he launched it lower than his anser 11, titty d3 10.5 and epon HT 11*. Had a meaner trajectory with generous roll.also using stock shaft 55g sr ss 90mph So in your dad's case, again somewhat different from yours in that his higher lofted (closer to 12*) launched even lower than teh Epon HT 1* assuming that is true loft as Epon claims it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 The jBeam has treated me well for a while now and I love how it keeps the spin rate low. The Romaro is a good competitor and I feel like it gets up a little more than the jBeam head. I see the big difference when I really go after one. The jBeam is easier to keep that penetrating trajectory without having to worry about any ballooning. Thanks for chiming in. I believe your Jbeam reference is the 425 Tour which I have not hit. How does the 425 Tour compare to the 435 loft for loft as a guide? Also, you mention the Romaro gets up a little more... you referring to the 435LX or the 460HX Black? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 So in your dad's case, again somewhat different from yours in that his higher lofted (closer to 12*) launched even lower than teh Epon HT 1* assuming that is true loft as Epon claims it to be. epon lofts are true to loft. could also be the deeper face of the kamui? i dont know what to make of it but my dad is happy with his. dad is always looking for distance and forgivness, this one fits his bill. he also is ordering ryoma HC next year so maybe i can give the results when they are out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerobound Posted December 11, 2012 Report Share Posted December 11, 2012 Thanks for chiming in. I believe your Jbeam reference is the 425 Tour which I have not hit. How does the 425 Tour compare to the 435 loft for loft as a guide? Also, you mention the Romaro gets up a little more... you referring to the 435LX or the 460HX Black? Thanks again. Sorry for the confusion. The 425 Tour and 435II are similar in performance, but I found the 425 easier to keep lower and I liked the fact it was easier to keep consistent in windy conditions, which I play in quite often. Loft for loft, they are pretty close in performance. When I say the 425 is easier to keep lower, I am getting very very picky. I wouldn't mind playing the 435II at all, especially in good weather. For Romaro the 435LX, does get up slightly higher. Good to add some carry distance with. But we must remember that the jBeam heads were talking about are very low spinning heads that are designed to keep a flat trajectory. (one of the lowest spinning heads I've played) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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