Saw this on wrx the other day. So I guess they are a mid/mid shaft. I know some on here claim they're low/low, comparable to the C-taper though. I ordered a set so I'll get them a whirl and see.

And here - http://nipponshaft.com/n-s-pro-modus³-tour125/

However maybe there is a difference between the Modus 3 "System Tour" 125 and the Modus 3 Tour 125... Anyone know?

And here - http://nipponshaft.com/n-s-pro-modus³-tour125/

However maybe there is a difference between the Modus 3 "System Tour" 125 and the Modus 3 Tour 125... Anyone know?

Its the Modus 3 'System 3' Tour 125. I think Nippon's international marketing department has probably just shortened the name to make them fit in with the Tour 120, Tour 130 and Tour 105 ranges.

Its a really great shaft and my favorite in the Modus family. According to Russ Ryden its very similar to the much loved Super Peening Blue but slightly lighter.

I LOVE the 125. From my perspective, it is definitely mid/mid-high launch and mid spin. It launches higher than the 120, absolutely higher than a C-Taper and probably KBS Tour high. The shaft feels fantastic and you can't really feel the weight given its EI profile. They work wonders in my P2s...

I LOVE the 125. From my perspective, it is definitely mid/mid-high launch and mid spin. It launches higher than the 120, absolutely higher than a C-Taper and probably KBS Tour high. The shaft feels fantastic and you can't really feel the weight given its EI profile. They work wonders in my P2s...

I completely agree with M

I have the 125's, 120's and 130's in three different sets currently

The 125's are definitely mid/mid high launch with mid spin

The 130's are higher launch with lower spin

the 120's mid low launch with mid spin

The 125's are my favorite at the moment. The weight and spin seem perfect for my swing.

wonder how these would work in a set of A-Grind R1 CB's......

Damn it I was told the 125's are C-taper like - low/low so I ordered them. Guess I'll still give them a whirl but I assume I'll be keeping my 120's in TX flex.

I have C-Tapers in a set of Miura Baby Blades and these are absolutely not similar :) Sorry man!

I had a set of Ctapers in some OnOff's and they are not like the 125's

The 125's are more like the SPB shafts

125s are closest imho to the SPBs and the SPBs may have had similar performance characteristics to the C-Taper (even though they felt worlds different)...but nothing is quite like C-Tapers, especially from Nippon.

SPB's are fantastic. Have them in some Miura Giken 5003's and they're low/low are they not? They seem low-mid launch/low spin to me...

Modus 3 120 TX I have in my onoff's are seemingly low spin, high launch in comparison...

I tried the C-tapers in the Epon Personals once and absolutely hated the feel. Felt like steel pipe to me...

SPB's are fantastic. Have them in some Miura Giken 5003's and they're low/low are they not? They seem low-mid launch/low spin to me...

Yep, the SPBs are (were) their only low/low offering. Even Nippon can't decide if their new 120s are low or mid launch and just claim they could be either depending on the player and the head. What the hell! Lol

Beats me. I still wonder if the "System" version is slightly different than the now N.American Tour 125 version because a lot of people on here swear the System 125 launch/spin low...

For me the 125s definitely are the lowest of the Modus3 line up. But like I mentioned, Nippon claims the 120s can be lower or higher than the 125s depending on the player or iron. It's certainly weird that they have such a broad classification of the 120...

For what it's worth, I have had the System3 125, Tour 120, and Tour 130 and the System3 was between the two and KBS Tour height and spin. But that is me (fast tempo, early release, that dang early release...)

I have 130X in p1 and 125X in p2. I really like the 125. I tested them about a month against an epon 316 with spb and spb clearly was much lower launch than 125. Spb does not feel anything like modus imo. I am pretty confident that 125 isn't as low/low as ctapers either.

Edited August 7, 20159 yr by 1dirtypanda

125s are closest imho to the SPBs and the SPBs may have had similar performance characteristics to the C-Taper (even though they felt worlds different)...but nothing is quite like C-Tapers, especially from Nippon.

For bend profile, and if I remember correctly even freq, the SPBs and 125s are almost inseperable. 125s are just a few grams lighter. That's about the only difference. Well except for the uber sexy satin/shot peening finish on the SPBs. So, anybody that really love the SPBs and can't find a set since they are discontinued, should go straight for the 125s. That's what I'll do, I game the SPBs in X.

Edited August 7, 20159 yr by Vegaman

Wow, so many of you seem to play heavy shafts !

I love the accuracy I get from my Nippon Modus 3 120 (stiff) but I definitely leave distance on the table. I know this as yesterday one of my acquaintances hit my 503/Modus 8 iron four times onto a green 180 yards away perfectly. OK he has one an Asian Tour event and his swing speed is 113 mph. Mine is 104 mph and my 8 iron goes 145 usually.

I wonder if the issue is of flex or weight? I was thinking of trying the Modus 105, but don't know whether to step down a flex as well. Looks like it is going to be a lot of trial and error unless someone else here has been through a similar experience.

Or get fitted? ;)

+1, I believe so much depends not on your swing speed but tempo, release, plane, etc. If you haven't tried the Mizuno fit system just to get numbers, it rocks. It at least can give you a sense of what types of shafts fit your swing, etc...

Will contact the Muzuno rep here and see if he can do a fitting. We have very limited options here and even poorer skills at interpreting the results, perhaps due to the limited experience of the fitters available.

The good thing about the Mizuno fitting, is if they have some decent shaft options in their cart (KBS, NS Pro 950/1150/etc), you can at least hit some different profiles and see which profile, weight matches best with your swing and numbers (numbers such as tempo, release, toe down, etc) and then look at various shafts here based on similar profiles (i.e. I think a KBS Tour matches more with the 125 profile versus the C-Taper, the PX more with the 130 (in EI feel/profile), etc). Just my opinion, probably worth at least looking into...

This golf shaft review site is great as well (to see EI profiles of various shafts, etc):

http://www.golfshaftreviews.info/