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2009 model. they altered the base on this significantly from 08 , its was ana gressive alteration, the sound is totally differnt form this model on to the previous models , this one is MUCH better, and the newer ones even better, i actually think this model is maybe the best they made. its solid for palyers but not a tour version that excludes 95% of the people form palyng it. the newer ones are bigger in body and slightyl easier to hit ,but this one get the job done so well. id say if ur a b grade or better this is one beauty of aclub. i made this for a mate of mine 2 months ago nad he clobbers the day lights out of it ans he weighs 66 kilos and get sh tball out there about 270 withtis thing about 20yards more than the yonex nextage form last yr. i cant get this outta his hands to even try the new model. i shafted it with a tour stage ad 6 s as well, awsome combo. mid flight straight . lots of run very very good head this great design. i think bogey dawwwwwwwwwg loves this one as well.
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yup. they are indeed. i actually payed my best scoring round in a comp at royal sydney with these about 2 yrs ago. so they are eminently playable.! differnt style to the yammy completely, the sole on these are a bit wider. and they are lighter, and much easier to hit oh did i mention theres NONE left anywhere ever again. these were for when i had my shoulder reconstructed a cpl of yrs ago. and i needed light easy to hit club, but wanted it tight still thast why the X flex. but im not using them any more , so a good home is sought.................,
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After hitting my yamahas so well and they suit my eye just beyond any doubt , my only cavity insurance policy set are now redundant. ZONE sprout is a small house brand in tokyo , they make a few difernt sets of clubs for a really small audience here in tokyo predominatly. they are a generic head in the same mould as the jbeam proto . good solid quality , simple grind , a very simple easy to hit club. high ish trajectory .good feeling club in fabulous condition. iomic x-evolution grips the x fex keeps this on the straight and narorw , while the classic NS feel and launch get the pill in the air with ease. ill guaantee you wont find these at your local track anytime i n the next oooh say 100000000000000 yrs. and ive resisted the temptation to flatten them 1* so they play stock. not much NOT to like about these. i spent a fair wack making these but ill sell them for $600 shipped.
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this might be of help to you. i had the epon 102 and quadra proto 75xs at the game sat. but i chose to hit the yonex bec i hadnt palyed it in a match properly , and this course on sat was perfect for it , very rainy , so no roll what so ever. , i was planning on using the epon, but went the crazy agn bec its higher carrry ,than the epon. i LIKE the epon proto better. maybe the best of all my divers, fele is perfec,t weight perfect, dispersion tight without being laser-like. can move it a bit ,not much but ifi ned to hit low cut , i can do it. and as much as anything it looks fricken cool....! . the crazy i must swing form my bootstraps or it doent work well, can not just hit a 230 yarder ,iits too heavy to do that too.. but i never hook this club, not even close so i can aim left pretty confidently which makes a very nice change. length i think the epon is bigger prob bec i get more roll out. but at the moent in these conditions theres not roll. so cant really say that till i get dry cons. the crazy feels a little thin and a heavy shaft deosn do it justice, im sure with the epon shape being more rounded and full this crazy sigma will be just unbleieveable. same as the jbeam 435. or the yamaha tour whoa boy ,now THATS a thought.......! but after thinking about it all weekened. the jbeam 435 is getting the sigma shaft. the 460 is getting the black 80 ls 2 he 102 quadra isnt getting touched at all. and the yamaha tour 9* is getting a bangvoo the yonex is getting a quadra fex at 44.5 inch. its all about maximising the components. i think over all the epon 102 quadra is the more suited club for me out of this and the crazy the crazy just needs re jigging a bit to be great, i gotta make full use of the higher spin head some how bec the shape ofthis head is my fav.........! T what are your thoughts crayz 460 bangoo maybe??
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i was going to say either the epon 102 j beam 435 or yamaha v and hit some gooduns, its such a nig foeheads, and shaft has to be crazy tj of crazy black really wit those ss or the new sigma 50 in 83 gram i used that agn on sat and hit some great piercing shots u might neeed smethingthat heavy, in that epon head, oh boy...!
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i love the feel off the face of every club, they def dont spin as much or bite as much as a lot of others , but in japan where the greens tend to hold much better than in oz, these go perfectly ok, plus the added distance, i can get them to stop ok, not just back up. and i like hitting balls that chase to the in not check stop. and on the greens, theres daylght between the brills and the rest. ive been palying the bridgestone premium brills lately nad i think they are better still ,the def spin a bit more , and hold better. they are the classiest balls ive seen , hit. the xxio pronounced zex-eeee-oh i just love hitting for feel. ive swapeed them out for comp but day to day i play them , and in oz where i paly numerous balls each praccy round they are terrific. def not a high spin ball. but oh what a feeling..!
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well....., after hittitng man y and varied of both id say the EPON are a softer feeling club that the yamahs, but yamaha are longer they release a new range ever yyr , just a slight upgrade form previous yr, the feeling has gone from slightly pingy to a lot more full sounding and solid. the new tour model is the best they have done , but ithink th 08 is the easiest to hit . this is in the V series stunning clubs the epon 101 and 102 are wondeful as well.' the 101 being slightly more workabke nad i found slightly higher in lunch the 102 lower straighter and more roll theres so much data on here about these 2 culbs. what ever you choose out of these u will be guaranteed driving pleasure and length theres none better than the other IMO they re all absolutely sensational maybe other guys can chime in on the D series yamahas and the 151s et all.............,
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played this today in rain and no wind on a decent enough long course with the crazy 460. used the yonex on the shorter trickier holes with resounding success. hit a few cuts, a draw or two, and a cpl dead straight darn the pipes. def not as long as the crazy prob by an average of ABOUT 15 yards but it was solid, doenst feel the greatest but perfectly ok . i played the tourstage x10 milds and they are pretty special pills. mines at 10* prob could use the 9* i think , but it didnt really balloon. and got some good high drives away , all carry still thinking about this but after today im pretty happy with results . no, very happy. im keeping it and its got a special place for tricky driving coures. the bang voo set up is good , but i think its prob better suited to be palyed slightly shorter than stock 45 inch ithink i need it at 44.5 for bit more control . upgrading my thought on this substantially. not a long driver but very very good and accurate . vey good.
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yes indeed dog-san. finally the veil hath been lifted.
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they look very good. id get that black paint fill out of them tho. im gaming the yamahas 2010 tom front nine and the epon af tours back nine 2 totlly differnt bags tomorrow front and back nines.
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I think its well documented ,that i dont mind an iron set or 2..,or 3............ or 4........................, and i do get to hit my fair share of irons. my current sotck include a lot of varied stlyes ,shapes and shafts but every now and then i hit something that makes me go whoa there YAMAHA inpres V forge tour models. not my traditional blades. not a cavity some beautiful blend of muscle back, its def not a cavity tho. the heads are square with straight lines, small mid body in size. and the feel is just magnificent, they arnt as solid as the kyoeis nor as soft as the epons in themiddle , the soles are likewise smallerthan epon af tour but bigger than miura theres no scufing the turf i encountered with the beautiful epon 302s similar style to these but a bit lower launch i was so stoked by the 2008 model i also bought the 2010s they are a littlle lower agn ,the centre of gravity is a litttle higher by the feel of it and makes hitting down onto the ball a lot nicer ,flight for my eyes. they re def a little more difficelt than the 08s but they seem a little more players style. the 2010 have the DG x 100s in them which freaked me out, but afte using them , i have no issues what so ever , the harshness of DG doenst seeem aparent with these heads, and th DG low launch heavier shafts seem perfect i n theese heads. im late in discovering yammy iorns, but now i have i can assure you they are the best. for all my loves of JDM , IF a geenie came to me and said "son u can only play one brand for the rest of ur life iits ur choice..............................." id be gaming YAMAHA without a doubt. the driver is superb, the v series fws are incredible, the utilities adorable. the wedges not a prob, and now the irons? why i DONT do this just amazes me. the attention to detail in yamaha is terrific, the sound of the drivers, the fws and now the feel and playability of thier irons . yea ....,im a yammy guy........!
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love raw clubs less is more imo these look great.
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i love the shape of them. just concerned about the off set bec i have a set of ver yoff set irons already and i prefer straightfaces more, the offf est make it easier to hit but the look is off putting at address. weird how tht works but thast whati find. im trting to get a few iron sets not only for playing but also just for colelction these and the preprefereence are at the top ogf my lsit. now if only someone will buy my YURURIS then ill be getting these!
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question for u , they look pretty off-set are these quite aggressively offset. if not............ if they re standard not aggressive of set ill def have apeek at them
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forgot about that one and for the price its unmatchable. but u gotta be swinging really hard strong fast to get the most out of it. been thinking how good this would be in a 3 wood.
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DEPENDS ON WHAT CRAZY i hated that tp7hd ithought it was a total imposter for $1000 BUT the f7m2 tho used for under 250 now ,thats a shaft! if u want a long tight launch light weight one the tj range is it. the crazy ls 2 is for slight draws. the crayz 50 is to keep the pill out of the trees on the left ,and i think the best feeling of all of them.. {(s**t i just had a thought what im going to reshaft that yamaha tour with!!!!!!)} errrrrrr..,sorry i digress.........., the crazy 80 is another tighter keep the left out i thinkt the diff in 50 to 80 is the 50 is a bit softer and maybe longer, def better feeling its more elastic the 80 is really glassy and taught. thats what ive found. the tp7hd just didnt feeel good at for ME and i had it in my yamaha where a railway sleeper would feel good, but it was just harsh. th DG of the carbon world IMO.. and for 1000 seriosuly????????????????????? u might wantt oconsider the bangvoo as wel, ive been hitting that a lot recently and LOVING it. dead straight no bias i can detect. and a bit cheaper, the crazy tho............... winner winner chicken dinner. my persoanl fav is the 50 sigma heavy and thumping. the noir is a draw shaft that can handle everything as welll. weight go for sigma lightness the tj antil left the 80 pure feel any 50 range staughtness the 80 ls id go the quadra proto as well before the tp the quadra proto is as good as any.
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its a differnt stlye of club completetly the epon 101 is a lot more workable and a lot more feeling the ryoma is an aim and shoot . and it goes pretty darn straight most of the time. as long as ur alignmnet is right i find i hadlry ever miss where im lining up to. (which is not straight a lot of the time) i just wantot swap the shaft over in a cpl and get adiffernt feeling, i think im missing out on distance with the current set up.
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Crazy 460 is higher spin higher launch massive square face for belting the ball ryoma has a more compact face working isnt easy as the power tail is so solid and squares the face up so well dead straight low mid flight perfect mix carry and roll both are excelkent crazy looks a lot more classy ryoma looks cheap scuffs easily but boy oh boy does it play get both!
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ive hit 5 differnt crazys and that tp7hd thing i also have the yamaha 2011 tour head with a quadra fire express 75 xs in it that delivers a very low ball flight. the crazy ive it are the tj 46 black 80 black 80 ls 2 black 50 black 50 sigma and they are all pretty low if uwant a higher flight that fubuki is higher. roddio s7x will be another one u might like.agn i ve got this in a yamaha 10* ,sensational feeling. or the diamana stinger 70x is another one in that class. thats higher and dead straight
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nice to read sir, been wondering how they have been going this golfing season, i was tempted to gt the RC, i saw one lying about recently. and i like the fact u have gone differnt stlyes. i dont think all wedges in all lofts play the same swing the same. i like my 61* cast yurui better than every ohter 60 i have ever tried, i hit it a billin times better aswell. i game that over so many other pieces of the same set. with a lot more confidence.
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horses for courses. manyfairways, many utes, ONE putter.........!
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funny u should mention that........................, i took a heap of drivers out last night and sat looking at them pondering the best set ups, like al lthe shafts and all the heads. not looking for anything else. but i got the feeling looking at them all that the best set up stil awaits. im au fait with all the palying characterisitics with all of these , so getting the best set up is next step. jbeam 435 10* 0.2 jbeam 425 tour 10.5* 0.5 ryoma v spec d1 9.5* crazy 460 9.5* epon 102 8.5* 0.5 p-tune 9* s yamaha tour 9* shafts diamana stinger prototype 70x (x2) crazy tj 46 7.7 crazy 50 sigma crazy black80 noir 7.7 qaudra FEX 75 xs quadra proto 75 XS the sigma and ryoma i think would be just incredible, bec of that power tail ,adn the storng punch of the 83 gram shaft , and being draw biased , wow! LOW laucnh, super strong, and plenty of roll out. its either this combo or the stinger 70 x in it, make it just a bit more wokable. play this at 45 inch the stinger will be slightly higher and ive hit this before so thast the set up im thinking. the crazy 435 il loose the tj 46 bec its a bit light and put the sigma in it 45 inch of muscle power. exacty like the crazy factory guys said i shoud do. the epon 102 is withthe quadra proto, thast never changing the yamaha i was thinking of putting a stinger in. takig abit of that anti left bias out of it. getting it straighter. that yammy has the best feel of all heds here. the crazy 425 tour and craay 80 not touching either. the p-tune and quadra fex at 44.75 inch will be a super fairway finder , not overly long ,but really sttraigh ,esp with the weights balanced to draw bias. be great for links in oz. leaves the crazy 460 head.................. and i thnk crazy and crazy shud be a match so the rogue 'viscios horse" crazy black 80 ls (20) might find a home here. and keepng the yonex and bangvoo together for a while longer
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gamed thsi sucker today, windy as hell. very tingy sound at impact. high pitch, like the on offs but a bit more solid. face frames the ball beautifully big and dead sqaure, saying smash the cover of me its a high spin head, at 9.5* the ball was launching mid BUT there was no aeroplane take off trajectory. was driving pretty well, the ones i turned over went a country mile. with little roll out. the ball held tis line in the wind very very well. the misses were a small block right but there was no slice. just a block, only mised a cpl of fairways and not by much. with the wind the ball was going very long and very straight. into it was a bit high for my likiing but bec of the shaft weight the ball gets a real good thump and the head doesnt want to contort seems like the shaft brings the head into square position very fast. had no problems, in really difficult conditions. itsa a straight to small draw biased shaft. which suits me prefectly. i think i prefer the lower spin heads, but on days when all carry is needed like rainy days this is i a beauty.
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Yamaha Tour Model Irons Let's Compare!
supo replied to TourSpecGolfer's topic in Japanese Golf Clubs
played them today on long course 7100 yards VERY blustery conditions . as they were 1/4 inch shorter than geijin standard 5 iron 37.75 hit the ball well scored well considering the cons, putted like a goose!( and not the retief version) the irons are superb feeling , beautiful shape, solid but with a soft middle. the r 400s are a wonderful mixture of weight with forgivness. they suit these heads perfectly. today i think they were a little on the theatrical side. the wind blew themabout a bit. but hit most greens nicely. sole is medium, width, no results like my ones with the epon 302s, got them to turn over well, nad cut no problems Bogeydog, i know why u keep getting a new set of these each yr. hard to take out o fthe bag for next week,