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This shaft is pretty average in weight attached to a normal or slightly heavier head. It would be helpful if Craig could post his final build specs in balance and overall weight. Our other SD orders are D2-D3 with a slightly above average overall weight. The equation does not mean they build light golf clubs. It's still to the customers request and most of our guys are sending in 198-199g heads, to be played at 46" using 55-65g SD custom shafts.

Our 3 types of copper are not to our standard, we most likely won't be offering it. Epon has an amazing copper finish but it's not exactly a copper finish it's something else. We have been experimenting with dual finish clubs first finish in copper then black then remove the black for a brushed look but our club crafters don't want to deal with that difficult process. Anyway sorry for thread jacking. PM for further questions. These P2's look nice.

This is the latest concept FT-1 I hope it doesn't cost as much as an LFA

Amazing Camera and a good price too! Congrats!

Contact me with details of your build so we can quote. It's case by case based on the design also we provide package deals if you set is purchased from TSG, or you decide to purchase new paint fill, shafts + grips installed. This particular finish is black boron, done at the same place Miura's black boron irons are done. It's a plating so it will not wear, but I've seen a couple of complaints online about Miura's that have flaked. It's not common though but I must warn. In the event it does flake you can send it back to us and the re-refinishing fee is half off for the redo. We can remove light dings, do any type of paint fill, and upgrade with any shaft and or grip you like. We even have fancy ferrules :) This whole thing is still in Beta, we are testing it out with select members before offering it full scale. Here are my Yamaha heads:

I like this thank you. 1. 3.5 loft in one putter does not mean 3.5 will work in a different design for you. If the loft is not designed for the particular model it will probably skip. Also the right way to do loft is to mill loft, never allow a decent putter be bent for loft. 2. Totally agree, I go from mallet to answer and center shaft to plumbers quite often. Once one goes stale the other is there to take it's place. Only issue is if your two rotation putters are too similar to each other this little break doesn't work as well. 3. Spot on! away from the mountain, toward the ocean, toward the sun, did it rain? the moon and gravity? Thanks mother earth for screwing with us.

In regards to a black finish, this is what Yururi did with the PDG, I saw it unfinished and it looked larger in size and offset after the black finish it looked pretty close to the Yammy RMX Tour MB much to our surprise. In NiCr Satin I think it could look even bigger than in chrome. I think something like this iron we did here in black boron on these 302's would hide some of the offset.

Mr. Kobayashi told us in person that the personal 1 he designed is short on distance. I think none of this is a problem, I don't look for distance in irons much anyway just that my gaps are filled, and I also don't mind some offset. The thing is this is not normal offset making it more of a fun and interesting back up set imo, I've never seen this much offset on a blade in over a decade and for that I applaud Epon for going there but this also doesn't make much sense. As pete said if you need that much offset I suggest a different iron. I'm interested to see how many who said "club X" has way too much offset now go for this one that has even more. Another option is to have TSG refinish it in black boron, black oxide, or soft black to minimize the look and size of this club. Don't forget it's not just the offset that's an issue for some, these have a different more Japanese rounded shape.

Sorry guys and thanks to Mikey for helping me understand better. I'm not able to compare SD to other shafts because I have no time with it. We have 4 members 2 of them are pretty active in the forum that do have time with them just recently so we will find out.

There is a new RAW wedge 100% exclusive to TSG coming soon.

Yes this is the NiCR satin with raw face option. Working on the program now will have details shortly.

I wanted to quickly share a little about a special set of PRGR Tour Nabla's we have worked on. NiCR Satin finish w/ Raw black oxide face, yes that's a raw face with a plated body the best of both worlds as your irons stay looking satin pretty while the area that makes impact still has it's pure steel feel and will wear which some may like.

Introducing the new Yururi Golf Tataki Wedge, It's been a while since Yururi has released new wedges and why should they with the continued success of the Raw Gekku and Gekku Tour easily TSG's best selling wedge over the years. This is Yururi's new players wedge, it's no joke, it's compact, rounded in all the right places and just finished beautifully. It's available in a wide range of lofts 50.5/52.5/56.5/58.5/60.5 and in lefty they even have 5 different lofts, It sells for $175 U.S head only and TSG will build it custom with just about any shaft and grip you choose. Mr. Miyoshi-san the owner and designer of Yururi Golf has taken his time with the Tataki, He already has a another amazing players wedge in the gekku tour so this one had to be different yet appeal to the same level golfer. Forged of S25C in Himeji Japan this is a 5 X pressed wedge which you will see shortly in the video in this posting this Tataki Wedge has a good amount of trailing edge relief with a nice smooth rounded leading edge, heel relief is adequate to open it up making it more versatile. Speaking strictly as a fan not the person marketing and selling these clubs, I can tell you without a doubt as far as value, feel, performance goes it get's no better from Japan than this... The shape is reliable, reminds me of the cold forged vokey or the buchi wedges, the curves and smooth finish just glide through turf. A little more about that finish, it has a rough look to it, there is no glare whatsoever it just looks so cool but even better it feels so nice at impact, 70% of tour pro's play raw/black oxide wedges and this wedge makes you understand why, the finish does just a good enough job to reduce wear and rust while keeping feel in tact. Below an image of how it looks from above, stunning and again a bit cold forged vokey like, nearly perfect to my eyes. Impact is dense soft and pure at at the same while and the spin this wedge produces is probably better than what you play now and for those who know Yururi wedges they know spin comes with the territory.

Yup I ordered the "control" shaft it's being built now. I hope to also do the Haute Couture model when I visit Japan next month.

That makes perfect sense, there are 2 things that ride along side this. 1. The player must get on a launch monitor with his final build and add/remove lead tape to find out what that optional head weight is. 2. Too much weight added via hot melt, foam, even adjustable weights can ruin the performance of the original design. If there is something I can ask SD do tell.

Thank you, but I still don't know how you think it's flawed, can you give me a question to bring to SD to stump them? Your saying the heavier head weight will create more force and distance right? I'm saying in the REAL people don't swing the heavy clubs as fast as they do the lighter club. So in the REAL your equation only matters when all things are equal while SD's equation ( to me at least ) takes into consideration the variables What am I missing here Mikey?

I'm gonna need help with that one because I'm not seeing the flaw in their logic. Can you please explain?

How does the SD equation assert that a heavier club generates a higher ball speed? Also what do you see as the flaw in their logic?

I looked over this thread and it seems like a shaft issue, you don't need any new heads to try so may I suggest a small assortment of shafts that work for your swing and a nearby club maker to play mix and match with the different heads you own to be a good learning experience. The times I learn the most about my swing and about clubs is changing shafts between heads. Lighter profile shafts stiff mid section and a little softer in the tip looks to be worth noting for you. Let us know how it goes with that 388.

Better looking pics: The info sheet I got from Japan showed a brushed satin looking head, in the flesh this thing is chrome to the bone.

I think it's time you try a Quadra skyline. Most likely the TP-V would fit you best, it's got a stiffer mid and tip while the butt is a touch soft to promote better feel. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't the original FEX been discontinued for the TP-V? I will get more info on this Black proto as soon as Quadra re opens on the 18th after holiday.

Mikey challenges the SD assertion that a lighter weight equals higher ball speed, he counters it with FxMA which requires all variables to be constant including the swing. That is not golf, that is a swing robot in a controlled indoor environment. Let's take FxMA into the real world and see how it applies to golf and what the OEMs are doing with it that make actual and tangible differences. In the real world YOU swing the lighter club faster, YOU have a higher initial ball speed while the opposite is true of the heavier club... Lighter weight tech has been one of the biggest advancements in golf since the 70's period, not a gimmick. How has force x mass improved your driver build and game?

Nope, club in one hand and camera in the other. the cavity is pretty deep. Sorry no blades yet. There is yet a bigger iron I will post pics of this weekend.

If few of the same variables apply this is nothing more than a very big tangent were on. We are discussing the merit of the SD equation which makes perfect sense in golf. The force x mass thing does not apply to golf very well so now I'm missing the point of having this discussion.

Yes I get what your saying, so if it were indoors on a swing robot you think the heavier overall weight will create more distance or are you just talking about the weight behind the impact zone?