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Every shaft is different. I really shouldn't have said spine up for all shaft's as many brand's vary in logo placement.
The design staff at huge companies like Endo, Bridgestone, Yamaha, Sumitomo, etc.. are not only light years ahead of the old school basic golf club principles but they are big teams not concerned with marketing or gimmick they only care about improving performance through scientific data & testing. Making a driver without taking advantage of lighter and better materials that can be milled thinner or feature more rebound among many other attributes puts a company at a disadvantage in terms of performance and feel. I think Wishon was and is correct if your talking about producing basic golf clubs in comparison to what is standard in the U.S market and even low end in the JDM market. Here's another controversial topic for some but basic knowledge to those with their boots on the ground. SST Pure, none of the Japanese shaft makers or material suppliers believe in it. It's kinda a Gimmick or Joke over there as the largest imperfection on a shaft is the seam or spine and lining that seam up with the target makes no sense and simply deforms kick reducing distance and accuracy. Thats the exact opposite of what it's advertised to do. Crazy, Quadra, Mitsubishi, Techno, Graphite Design and all of their designers believe in spine up. Not down or front and back.. UP as its the place where the spine will get in the way the least not hindering the kick forward or kick downward. Ever wonder why the spine on really good shafts is aligned with the logo up side? About 6 years ago I was all about SST this and that. Boy was I wrong when they showed us how the spine get's in the way of a consistent kick. We argued and asked every source we could. This is not opinion and they are not wrong. It's fact and think about it, what is the spine? it's the seam and it's the most flawed and inconsistent area on a shaft. It's more ridged which prevents the shaft's natural kick hindering distance and of the 4 basic directions a shaft can kick the least important is UP. front and back kick is very important for distance and downward bend is natural on a descending blow. SST pure will work on really cheap and poorly made shafts that have inconsistencies as it stabilizes forward kick meaning straighter shots yet at the cost of distance. On anything decent it reduces performance and this comes from the chief designers of every brand that produces all the worlds best shafts. Interesting No? I'm sure some of you believe in it through experience just like I did. Now I know my mind had a lot to do with that.
I forgot about those! The new VG3's coming in April wow I'm in line for those myself. A bit smaller than the ONOFF Forged and perhaps not as soft or buttery but I'm sure they will be perfect blend of size, forgiveness, and feel for my game.
Not mad or impatient I think. I already know what's in store for the 503 and personally would go with the 2011 ONOFF Forged built to my specs as they are softer, forgiving enough, with less of a goose neck. I know the 503 will be a hair more forgiving but it will have a bit more offset won't feel as pure at impact. Just my 2 cents.
Hand's down ONOFF, feel, setup, and hotter off the face. I think RC has lost the lead they had in fairway woods a couple years back. Their product still looks great and has a nice profile but performance wise it's just a par when stacked against Ryoma, PRGR, and ONOFF. I think that's what Shingo wanted. It's not nearly as clunky as the Ping Zing but we all thought the same thing, looks like a Ping! none the less It's the best darn ping look alike I've ever hit. It started as only 200 available worldwide now they are down to the last 50 or so, It's now or never! To stew the new Type-S FW & UT's are actually a nice upgrade over the Pro Spec & Labo Spec UT of last year, weighting and profile makes it a bit more forgiving. The UT feels like an evolution of the Labo Spec of last year but this FW seems totally different in terms of feel, hotness, and ease of use. Not too deep not too shallow everyone was raving about it at the show. New Proto shafts are exactly that, Only proto's not even Shingo has his yet. The ones you saw at the Roddio booth are still under development. They could just be production dummies at this point.
It's ONOFF's turn and I think equipment wise it's their best line up yet. First off the Type-S fairway wood is my new fav, I hit this and was shocked how hot off the face it is and it's feel made me shockingly happy. They really did a good job with this one, maybe not the most forgiving but for the purest looking for a pro style package this is as good as it gets. The Shingo Limited wedge was another one I didn't expect to enjoy so much the thing I liked most about it was how stupid easy it is to hit, ball go up and straight no problemo. The Endo made Type-S driver was a gem as well and Tatsuro's top pick of the players woods at the show. Lot's of great ONOFF product and more and more TSG customers are leaning that way due to the face and lie angle adjustments that can be done through our friends at the LABO SPEC department. Enjoy the pics! 2012 ONOFF Type-S Fairway Wood: ONOFF Type-S Driver: ONOFF Labo Spec "Shingo" Limited W358 Wedge:
What club is it going into & what is the clubs loft? On top of that it would help to know what you use now and what you want to change or improve along with you desire in the new setup.
You can't duplicate the smash factor and the ball speeds your seeing on the launch monitor if someone else is hitting it. For example I can hand pick a person who produces low spin and hits it on the screws with killer ball speeds using the worst performing driver against the average golfer using the best driver and based on the numbers you will think the poor performance driver is the better golf club. Another example is spin rates, many pro's have higher spin rates and hit it dead straight where as most better than average golfers require lower spin to hit it straight. Swing plane, Lag, and a ton of other factors can really change LM numbers. Don't let launch monitors mess with your head. I see players that hit it 125mph with 1300 rpm spin rates that can't hit a fairway then there are people like Tatsuro at 3000 rpm's that send's it dead straight all day with nearly the same distance yet the numbers on the LM are not as impressive. Anyway you will see in the LM videos what I'm talking about. We have Trackman and a bunch of other LM testing coming shortly.
we have lots of monitor videos just gotta get through the show videos first. It will be some time. Here's the thing LM numbers don't mean anything, for example you won't have nearly the same spin rates, launch, etc.. even if you had identical swing speeds as the tester. I've seen people on the internet place a lot of emphasis on LM's or report spin rates & launch angles when what they are seeing is how a club reacts to a particular person not themselves.
They are super close to your current PP-9003. Not much of a difference there in terms of forgiveness.
Just about every OEM would also choose ENDO if they could afford it.
The TS video was posted in the blog several days ago.
If your looking for a forgiving set you may want something multi piece with a bit more tech in them. I.E Titleist VG3, OnOff Forged, Yamaha V-Forged are the first to pop into my head. Endo forged preferably. I think it would be best by you explaining a bit about your game, what you currently use and like or dislike and want in your next set.
I think your right Vegaman.
Any X-Series wood by TourStage will feel more firm than the DT111 which is not really designed for the golfer who desires that more solid sensation. The DT-111 was designed for more forgiveness it's really well made by Endo as well with that expensive and popular VL forged cup face . The DT111 would better compare to the GR series by TourStage.
While it's true there is no best there is a hell of alot better. Also I would not throw cost into the equation as lower cost usually always have a trade off. In regards to drivers I am bias toward Forged Ti produced by Endo mostly for feel. When it comes to performance DAT 55, 56, produce fantastic numbers but cost quite a bit more. A lot of it has to do with the process of how it's made. You can have the same material made 2 different ways and the result is totally different. Also combined with other design factors the result can vary as well. There is an unlimited amount of tech/design/manufacturing/material combinations. It's about finding balance somewhere in that criteria that satisfies you that counts most.
The 7* driver is actually quite nice. It's not what you would expect. The launch angle is very similar to my 9.5 driver that I play currently. Check out the review written on the blog about it: http://www.golftoimpress.com/prgr-2012-egg-seven-driver-review/
For my game the GR line fit me better than the new 707 series. Even Tatsuro liked them, GR irons are solid Endo forged just a different shape and it's still not a large head by any means. The GR driver, materials, tech, manufacturing is still a big jump ahead of the J40 driver.
Yup they usually do. The one about to be released is the more forgiving model.
Yes exactly.
On to TourStage now! I think the X-Series get's lost in translation at times and what many consumers don't get is that it's designed purely for the Pro type player. Lot's of scratch or plus golfers would read that and say oh that's me but what we have to understand is that at the highest level such as the U.S PGA & many on the JPGA desire more Firm or Solid feeling Drivers, Irons, and Putters. The good to average consumer usually desires a more soft sensation at impact and that's what TourStage designed the GR Series for. TourStage could perhaps have the best R&D and technology around. They use ENDO for much of their manufacturing. In this post I'm going to leave the tech talk to Gocchin as he is almost ready to launch his TourStage blog post. 2012 TourStage X-Drive 707 Driver 2012 TourStage X-BLADE 707 Irons TourStage X-Drive GR Driver TourStage 2012 GR Forged Irons New TourStage X-FW Type-T Fairway Wood 2012 Japan Golf Fair Video: