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Yesterday i participated in a test that had 3 new zelocitys, 2 older vectors, 1 new vector and the track man. Here were my averages: Swing Speed: 100 mph Ball Speed: 147 mpg Launch Angle: 13.7* Back Spin: 3500-3800 ( too high ) Carry Average: 244 yds Power Trasfer Ratio: 146 This average is based on my performance club the 10.5 Epon with DREV Tour R flex tipped to play soft. I was able to get my swing speed to 104mph but the increased speed didnt add any distance and usually increased spin. keep in mind i have some issues with my swing, i do often hit down on the ball which hurts my launch angle. I did however get a peak ball height of 28 yards in the air which is great as 30 is considered optimal. Amatuers, a couple EPGA players, PGA wannabe's, and mini tour players participated. most of these guys didnt know much about equipment or fitting but 99% of all players used a shaft too stiff and a loft to low. To my suprise the 105mph+ group did best with R flex shafts, these guys are good players with PTI ratings of 150 and above. My advice to all of you is the same, softer shaft, higher loft no matter how much you think you know about equipment. A low spin shaft dont work if your PTI is below 150 score so dont even try it. Its usually technique that is giving you the unwanted spin. If your a high ball hitter, check your technique first, then adjust loft, and last shaft. Oddly the difference betweek a high kick shaft and low kick is only 1.6" in most cases. My second best results came from the cleveland launcher 460 10.5 with a tipped A flex shaft! how about that for a 101mph SS. The only import clubs tested were the EPON and Srixon ZR-600. The ZR-600 was perfect except for the launch angle. One of the EPGA guys was 16 yards ahead of all other clubs with my driver. 10.5 w/PT-6 Stiff, another mini tour player had the highest power transfer ratio of the day with it. Was it the head or the shaft? Of course a combo of the two but it worked for the better player. Of the machines tested the trackman was the most accurate as it tracks the downward flight after peak, but IMO not worth the extra money unless you own an OEM that does loads of driver testing. The zelocity was great and accurate with the most usefull readings but the new version we had didnt have half the programs written yet. The New accuvector pro is CRAP, not accurate, and hard to get going. The old accuvector was great as usual besides the fact its hard to do irons and fw's because its based on sound as well as photo. We were trained on each of the various machines except the trackman and I came to the conclusion that if you have 25ft of space to swing and let the ball fly Zelocity is #1, If you are indoors and have 10-15ft of flight space the original accuvector takes the cake.

The comment i made about toe weight distribution and a shorter hosel was about traditional blade design not cavity backs, not neo blades, not game improvement. What matters a lot in design is that the vertica center of gravity and horizontal CG meet up in a spot you will hit the most. keep in mind by adding 10 grams to the hosel or the toe will move the CG 1/64th's of an inch toward the weight. In regards to the AR-1 design I would like to know where the CG location is and if its consistent through the custom grind models from scratch. These like the Miura 301's are blank heads made in Japan. The AR-1 is also sold by Geo Tech which is a component brand owned by Tom Wishon which confirms its a quality design as Wishon doesnt put his name on things that are not sound. GEO TECH 670 HC

Ill have to get back to you on that. EPON is sending me some testing prototypes to mess with.

I had no idea they were doing the emblem. I actually like it. FYI these are finished in Cr20 before the satin plating.

:tsg_smiley_yes: Now thats what im talking about! Your more of a HO than santa claus man.

Yes Srixon U.S stuff is made in Japan. A few less features but still very high quality at a great value.

Yes it can but i havent done this. I suspect it will say Technica Pro I under that badge like the version in the pro shop. Thanks, Chris

I have no idea what these are. I do know that Vokeys are made of carbon steel cast which bends like forged and almost feels as good.

They are pretty old wedges. I know the owner of the company he also runs egg wedges in japan. they are another high quality wedge on the market. I can get them if you want but most people spending that sort of cash on a wedge usually want somthing a bit newer than 3 years old. As far as quality zodia's are better IMO check out zodias new web site watch the videos and understand that not many wedge companies do that sort of process.

same forging quality, i would say the 505 is more forgiving in the long irons due to tungsten inserts.

I can still get Duo Hit fw's but the driver is finished. The T3 has replaced it. IMO there are better drivers available in the high end market. The new M3 Hit is an oversized FW that is silly easy to hit. I suggest a shaft change to somthing that fits your swing. i tried the M spec shafts from PRGR and dont get along to well with them. Thats just my swing though perhaps others will have a different take.

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Im not sure how they play, im just not a big cleveland fan. I do have 2 left 52/58 and know they are not so easy to get.

I spoke with Paul Bessler today who one of the top club makers, fitters, etc.. He agreed with what the Maltby book states but also thinks that todays newer blades are a turn in the proper direction. More so with added bulk around the toe area than the shorter hosel. Perhaps the MPF factor is a tad outdated? Whatever the case is I have been doing my best to learn everything i can about the physics and design of golf clubs modern and classic. All directions seem to be pointing to CB's as the better design for every player group. Its all mental guys serious, if you cant hit CB's and you can only hit blades you have a few issues that need to be resolved. A good example is the honeymoon period its pretty hard to explain with scientific facts but for some reason they say the first 40 shots are better than the rest. Its those kind of things that make golf the most interesting sport there is IMO. Blades actually helped me also, I found that the smaller head made me focus and concentrate more which in the end improved my ball striking with my CB's.

I understand what people are saying after my comment. first and foremost the most important thing about selecting irons are how they look to you personally. I guess the trick would be for a blade player to learn to adjust to the look of a CB. In regards to the ball flight, its more an issue of shaft and fitting than the CG. The CG will affect forgivness mroe than launch angle. There are pros that launch the ball higher than anyone yet can play forgiving cavity backs. It is because they are fit properly. Blades isnt the only way to bring the flight down.

I used to feel the same way until tom set me straight. Read the book " The search for the perfect golf club " and Maltby MPF "Irons" and learn from a pure physics and design stand point they are obsolete when compared to the CB. If pga pros can deal with CB's it i'm sure many of us can learn to as well. the difference in top line vs a true players CB is .5mm which is tiny. A lot of this often has to do more with the head than anything else. A look into the future would be Japanese Neo blades, larger heavier sole with a shorter hosel and a tad more bulk out near the toe. just my 2 cents and in the end we all play what we like best not what performs best. Another thing i would also like to note that the use of the majority of aftermarket driver shafts are useless for those who don't hold their wrist cock long enough to reap the benifits of a full kick.

I got this one for 500.00

Take advantage of the Gallery as we have many of the images you may need in your search. XCB2 on left - TS-202 on right

Gauge NC-1 is a 5mm top line which is on the bigger side yet not large as stated in most of its reviews on the site. The R7 forged, ZR600, and Type J are in my guess 4mm a blade is about 3.5 ( just guessing I haven't measured them yet ) I strongly feel that the blade is obsolete, I mean why use a club with a higher CG, which is closer to the heel, from a design standpoint it makes no sense. People can argue that blades feel more pure at impact. On U.S domestic side that may be accurate but the Type J and Kyoei forged irons are more pure in CB form in my opinion. Also if we get real here even plus 2,3,4, handicaps benefit more from a CB than a blade. So what you see is new model blades with a shorter hosel in attempt to push the CG closer to the toe and lower so they are easier to hit. It helps but logically MBs are for a select few not the many who think they benefit their game. I didn't always feel this way but after a long conversation with Tom Wishon it makes a ton of sense.

as many as you need my friend. Yes sir Japan only. I really like how the faces have the slight milling marks on it. I agree they look pretty forgiving and I will keep you guys posted on how they work as soon as i got time to put them in play.

not many at all by Srixon. we are hiring 2 master club fitter/builders on the 1st of October and will be able to do everything in house.

ZR-600 - Type J - R7 Forged R7 Forged - Type J - ZR-600 R7 Forged on Top, Type J in the center, ZR-600 on bottom I am going to put the same shaft, length, lie, loft, grip and swing weight on each set and see which i like best their are factors that have me leaning in all directions. I havent tried the ZR-600 yet but the sole looks so easy to hit. The R7 forged is gone gone gone in Japan and TSG has the last remaining sets available, some people are saying its miura forged. The Type J has given me no reason to switch, they perform and feel better than anything i have hit to date but my nature as ho is to test test test. Anyway this is no official shoot out or anything its just me giving my honest opinion on what set i liked best and why. The winner of course will make it into my bag.

Diamana, Fujikura, Graphite Design, Axiv, NGS and more are facing serious shortages of materials ever since the new Air Bus A380 began production. Even Carbon companys are feeling the hurt not to mention the automotive aftermarket industry. Im actually looking forward to taking a ride on this beast!