TourSpecGolfer

i have heard from a lot of people (insiders) that the r5 dual tp will released but from all my tm contacts have heard different I was told by the higher ups, there is no plan to release yet. I was told by other TM insiders that it was scheduled for release. Heads already available in China for cheap and that usually happens before a club becomes retail. I was told by TM that they plan to only give a few Tour Issue pieces to each player they select. IMO that doesnt account for the amount currently on the market. a month ago the R5TP was very hard to get, now just about anyone with 1000-1500 bucks can get one.

200-250 coming from Asia, heads only. ( I'm not Touching these even if they are the same thing as real )

I purchased the Irons and Driver and these were the pics the seller sent me. last year I purchased the JDI Driver in a glass/wood case with the same authenticity sheet from the same seller. This kinda stuff only sells in Japan. :money:

1982 sir. The Callaway Edge.

I think the X-blades are more forgiving, the TN-87's are a more classic players blade. I would go with the TN87's because I really love the Mizuno feel. not to soft not to hard....just right :love:

Prior to the 2005 Tokyo Golf Fair I noticed many of the Japan OEM catalogs not mentioning or offering Fujikura shaft options in their woods. Tourstage Callaway Titleist Fourteen Gauge Design SYB Royal Collection Nike and more... Instead they offered Graphite Design and Diamana shaft options.. What happened to Fuji? I put that question on a long list of questions for each OEM at the show, including Fujikura. The rep from Fuji America had no clue about it and the Japan Fuji guys didn't want to talk about it, with no answers from the horses mouth I had to ask each OEM. to my surprise the majority of the OEMS were singing the same tune that went something like this: Graphite Design is the #1 shaft in Japan When asked why not offer Fujikura the question was deflected with Graphite Design and Diamana are the most popular shafts. What is going on? Is this a boycott? every OEM interviewed had a very similar generic answer.

Mamiya makes many different things. UST America, Pro Force in Japan, and Axiv not to mention a few other companies. The H, M, & L is indeed for the kick point. How great is that a standard CPM and selectable kick point for any shaft you choose. You can also choose between two colors on all shafts. Orange or Dark Blue, they all have the Triaxl looking weave on the butt end very very :cool: I now play this shaft and put it above my prior two favorites, the GD W60 and GD M65.

High C.O.R

OMG! they are still new! :cool: Guys these wedges are made of FE 99.9% soft forged steel. Not easy to find brand new.

What exactly does a heavy shaft like that do for you in a driver?

My vote is for DUBBED, His wedge is nicely covered 100% and I cant see any of its original finish or stampings :surprize:

OK guys please vote in this thread on who's rusty wedge should win the contest for the two new Scratch wedges. PjPalmer fredmcfl abrams38 Oiamsobuff DUBBED May the most rusted wedge win! Please vote in this thread!

Wow i forgot this thread existed! I sold these irons in august 2004, I miss them very much but the Gauge MB's are doing the job very well at the moment. MP-27's are sweet clubs they are to CB's what the MP33's are to blades.

Where are you examples? your Foundries? your famous American hand grinders? Both side to side no comparison. Are you angry with me or just blind because pics alone prove the quality is unmatched in finish, grind, and technology. You really need to try some quality Japan stuff and learn more about the golf clubs you are hitting. American made is now China made. Call me bias all you want, the fact still remains that you cant find an example foundry or product that comes close what Japan has. show me the Examples as I asked you. I can show you pages. The reason why things are not made in America is because of cost of labor, material, unexperienced staff and Chemical restrictions. The Japanese steel is more expensive, the employee is paid more, the staff is more experienced and QC is overwhelmingly better in almost all cases. Did you not read about the Chemicals and Materials...Do you think thats a pitch for me to sell my clubs? I cant even name one master hand grinder in the U.S, please help me with that. The American customer is not willing to spend as much as the Japanese on average therefore they will get a less expensive design. there are countless examples of this right now in the golf industry. Srixon W403 vs 404 mizuno MX-17 & MX-23 vs MP-27 & JPX, CLK vs UX2, High fli2 vs UX1 etc etc etc...to many to list. more can be put into a 1000.00 club than a club that costs 500.00 to make. Ping? so you compare the U.S made clubs by Ping to Japanese quality? please tell me why? do you know what they used to make them? who grinded them? Bad example dude, it really shows you haven't experienced real high quality golf clubs yet. I was expecting ping if you didn't know much but figured you would say Hoffman's because you kinda sounded like you knew what you were talking about. FYI Scotty Cameron retails are mass produced in China. T.P mills is using forged Carbon Steel ( cheapest decent putter material ) Hand welded neck's are not the most accurate in regards to weighting and balance. T.P putters also have very little R&D before putting out a design and many times that design is non symmetrical. bettinardi is top notch USA but they only make putters. Why would the forging be done in the U.S.A? The better material and artisans are located in Japan. The American Golfer is not willing to shell out big bucks as the Japanese are. Why sell the best high end most expensive product to the people who wont buy? Solomon Adidas/TM is a German company...lol the top designer isn't even American and all the brands listed above are seriously mass produced in China @ huge volume. QC is poor, quality of steel is poor, and grinders are unexperienced ( many just out of high school ). Volume is set way to high to expect something perfect and uniform. Ask someone who works with Japanese forged clubs how the 2005 TP irons feel when bending compared to a Himeji forged set. Titileist , Hogan and Callaway use Endo Thailand as well so i don't exactly get what you are saying about American quality. What would remembering Scotland creating golf have to do with The differences and details in regards to why Japanese Crafting and clubs are the best? Argue the facts, material, craftsmanship, design, and QC. I care not about nationality of the company. I am very able to shred Japanese OEMs also. For you to give a fair analysis of the quality level we are talking about here you would have had to hit many of the best Japanese clubs and American side by side as I do. No disrespect but If you were here in person I could honestly teach you what to look for and why certain things are better.

What was the Rothschild like? Tannin & Acidity.

I am American and,... Quality is better in Japan hands down. If you cant tell, wow :surprize: Manufacturing: Many Military grade Materials and non compliant EPA regulated Chemicals are illegal in the United States. U.S plating companies cant provide as "quality" finishes like Satin, Chrome etc. The Chemicals are said to cause cancer. The best forged golf head is found in Japan. please if you could just show me of some better U.S forged heads....please. Japanese forged steel is the best in the world, its a process they have been doing hundreds of years. Craftsmanship: They Apprentice for years in their trade, they work longer hours than we do and very meticulously with so much pride. This trickles into every industry, electronics, cars and parts, Innovation etc.. Hand grinding is a respected trade where as the U.S OEMS out source to other parts of Asia where they use pitted steel and the non golfing, little experience, lower paid hand grinding staff that has an output of about 4000 sets a month compared to Japans very limited output. Americans don't even build the OEMS equipment its almost all made in China, Thailand, etc so how can we really compare? Technology: Sometimes it takes innovation 4 years to get the U.S, not because its junk but because the American customer is more bargain oriented. you can do so much more with 500.00 production cost vs 200.00. More internal weighting designs, more technical options to choose from. Japanese R&D is intense and they are just a high tech sorta people. If you can give us some examples of American made clubs or foundries I could better help you compare and understand why the Quality of Material, Craftsmanship, QC, and finish is better made in Japan. BTW China and Taiwan make the best drivers IMO. Anyway guys, I get to hit both U.S clubs and Japanese, Honestly no BS this stuff is better all around, thats why I fell in love with it and that is why I made this place. I too wish it was much cheaper but my prices are not too far off what the U.S Oem Chinese made clubs are going for in the recent. Its not the Arrow, I know, but you do get what you pay for....the best. :nos**t:

And the legend Nike Mike makes his first appearance in almost 8 months! :surprize: :nikewood:

:surprize: Nice! I wish there was a Jaw dropping smiley!

Many people dont know that these blades are made with Miura Heads :surprize:

Here is another view of this very cool setup!

Someone please give me the password. :wah:

FAQ just ordered one, I have 2 on order myself with my custom grind mizzys. I hit them at a demo spree near Tokyo and it was basically a better feeling easier to hit Mizuno CLK. This version has the rail in the sole and 17g's of tungsten weighting located inside the head. I custom ordered mine with NS-1150 Tour stiff and it will be a while before i get it. We have exactly 7 other lurking members that have purchased this club. Let hope some come out to share.

Here is a good pic of a raw scratch wedge while we wait for P's pix! :cool: