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I apologize to all those waiting. This must be Yamaha's most hectic launch ever and so many of our orders were pushed back. Several members have gotten their tour irons, standard irons, fairway woods, utilities and wedges.... a large number of tour sets to still go out (many next week) and tour drivers start shipping next week as well. As you can imagine, I have been hounding, stalking, and bitching to Yamaha for weeks. (^_^)

I tested all 5 models and I liked the 12 and the 10's. I actually found the 12's quite forgiving and liked their looks the best. The milled face for me improved the feel over previous years.

Thanks Rich for answering the question. You are becoming quite he Romaro expert! (^_^)

The 09 was a superbly designed and rather soft. I liked it a lot, forgiving, good distance. The 11 were even softer and they overhauled the looks and improved the trajectory and spin. Biggest difference, 09 forged in China. 11 forged at Endo and one of the softest irons ever.

Does it look like I hit yours?? I never ever hit customer clubs.... unless they tell me to. (^_^)

I hit the FW and UT... need to find time to write up something.... very nice.

We've had Diamana's break, Fuji's break, Tour AD's break, Quadra's break, Honma ARMRQ's break and other brands as well. It is not only Crazy shafts. Crazy may be more prone to breaking because of their materials. The reason why they are such great performers is that high grade carbons are made of more glass particles vs rubber in lower grade shafts. So naturally the materials and thinner wall sections can be subject to breakage which is why Crazy is very good with their warranties. This is the nature of high modulus carbon, amazing performance, consistent release and very active tip sections but at the cost of being a bit more fragile. Lower end shafts do not break as easily since the materials are lower grade and more rubbery and not nearly as fine. Crazy shafts are not meant to be pulled and reinstalled numerous times over. The heat and constant pulling can weaken the weaves. A couple of times okay but too much pulling is not good. I would always make sure if you are buying used Crazy that it is a ONE time pull.

Yes, of course, we carry the full S-yard line. tae actually just ordered one.

Tourstage has a full release for 2013 including 3 new forged irons the 909 (Muscle Back), 709 MC (Muscle Cavity) and 709 CB (Cavity Back). Irons look great! There will also be 3 adjustable drivers, a pro model 909 (most likely 400cc or less) and the 709 in 450cc and 430cc sizes. (these heads were shown on the R&A site actually a couple of months ago). We don't have much else now just some pics from Japanese sites.

Yes of course you can specify any bounce you want since it is ground from a raw head.

Honma is constantly trying to reinvent themselves.... Beres Revolution was supposed to be an evolution and a rebirth of the brand. Since new ownership... I sometimes wonder what is going on there... orders take longer than ever, costs went up, and they can't seem to get a sense of where they want to head. This may not be a relaunch of their brand as the TW series is not new... its just been missing for a couple of years.

I am officially gaming the F3 now myself. Very much like the feel off all clubs. Very balanced all around performance. Interestingly performed very well with my Crazy 435, better than my Ryoma.

Actually they are the same... the table on our site is wrong;... I should repaste with the Crazy table...

You can check the first post of this topic as well... I added the finished wedges there too!

Got the finished wedges in today and they look amazing. Very happy with the way they turned out. As I had mentioned I decided to keep them clean with just the Gold's logo and dots to indicate the lofts. The Soft Black finish turned out better then expected! The shape I think is just perfect and the grind very handsome! These wedges have already been purchased by a lucky member!!

No difference between both TJ-46 models. They are the same shaft but was slightly rebranded when Crazy realigned their products. Corky has the Longest Yard 01 Nero now actually which is a different shaft from the TJ-46.

Yes to both.

Hmmm I think there may be more variance for the Romaro so they could be close depending on what the real loft of the Romaro actually is. Jbeam is typically real loft and also the weight configuration on the JBeam can alter ball flight. Did you change your weights on your Jbeam/Crazy?

Sorry as for the weighting yes, depending on your the weight you require it can actually change the CG location and ball flight.

Feel wise I preferred the Kamui Ray over the TP07s but I prefer the way the TP sets up and looks overall. As I mentioned in the other thread, the TP07s faded a lot for me so I definitely did not get along with the stock shaft even though it was a regular flex. Perhaps I need to build one with my preferred Crazy to compare more fairly.

The 435 is considered one of the longest drivers ever made so to say the TP07 obliterated the 435 is quite shocking. I have both here and for me the 435 is longer, though the Ryoma is still the longest. That said the TP07s was the stock shaft and for me it kept fading, while the Crazy has the LY01 which works with my swing very well. I should put up my review of the Romaro 435LX, I haven't as I really am not that driver's target audience. Like the Crazy it is very penetrating and low spin. Feel is better though on the Romaro I thought.

Looking at around D4ish but yeah *0.5" can be done.

For swing weight purposes. Modus 3 balance is towards the tip so the slightly shorter length helps swing weight.

Its possible but I'm torn as always when it comes to what to play.

<a href="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5501.jpg"><img'>http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5501.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21729" title="DSCF5501" src="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5501.jpg" alt="" width="648" height="248" /></a> Every year when November rolls around the excitement at Tourspecgolf builds for the announcement of the new Yamaha lineup for the upcoming year. It has turned into big event annually where many of our top customers and in the know golf enthusiasts queue up for the chance to pre order the new models. As we all know here the Limited Edition Tour Model irons are always the first to sell out typically even before launch. This year Yamaha kept the new models under a tight wrap, amazingly with no leaks as to what they even looked like. Last month when the models were finally revealed many were surprised to find this years V Forged Tour Model was now a blade and this years standard V Forged model was now a... wait what is it exactly? <a href="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5503.jpg"><img'>http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5503.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21730" title="DSCF5503" src="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5503.jpg" alt="" width="648" height="432" /></a> I'm reviewing the standard V Forged first as Yamaha has decided this year to not offer demos of the Tour Models since they are limited editions. Because of that we need to wait for our actual orders to come in so that we can review the Tour Model. In early November when Yamaha released pictures of the new V Forged, many people did indeed say "what is it exactly?" The V Forged has always been a superb all around, close to mid sized cavity back, aimed at the improving golfer and better player. The key is that is has always obviously been a cavity back. The new V Forged is quite a departure visually and design wise from all previous generations of the V Forged, and Yamaha does indeed refer to it as a cavity back. <a href="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5496.jpg"><img'>http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5496.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21733" title="DSCF5496" src="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5496.jpg" alt="" width="648" height="432" /></a> At first glance though, if anyone decides to call the V Forged a blade or muscle back, there probably aren't many who would disagree. Yamaha touts the V Forged as an aggressive cavity back or half cavity back model which we agree with. It has the lower portion of a cavity back which brings the center of gravity lower towards the sole yet the middle and top portion of the V Forged are very blade like. This top portion has a similar thickness to provide a consistent feel across the face. <a href="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5488.jpg"><img'>http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5488.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21737" title="DSCF5488" src="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5488.jpg" alt="" width="648" height="420" /></a> While the V Forged is touted as an aggressive cavity, it still retains the larger size of previous V Forged models. So if we are to consider this to be blade like, it does tread away from being a muscle back with its longer heel to toe length and wider sole. The toe is still high and reasonably squared off and the heel side of the face has actually been lowered to provide a sharper image. The leading edge is slightly rounded to help out with some ease of use especially in softer turf like we find here in Japan. <a href="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5490.jpg"><img'>http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5490.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21738" title="DSCF5490" src="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5490.jpg" alt="" width="648" height="432" /></a> Yamaha first used face milling on last years models and its back again this year though slightly tweaked in its patter. The score lines now feature a 3mm pitch interval and together with the face milling are said to increase the amount of spin and control. Yamaha irons which are forged from S20C at Endo have always had a great feel to them and with these new grooves and face milling, the impact feel seems enhanced ever so slightly, almost like a softer compression of the face perhaps from the additional bite. <a href="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5494.jpg"><img'>http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5494.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21739" title="DSCF5494" src="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5494.jpg" alt="" width="648" height="432" /></a> As with previous V Forged models, the sole is mid sized and and grinded to provide versatility and extra help for those who desire a clean entry and exit from various conditions. The grind helps the iron get under the ball consistently which helps result in great feel at impact. Its colder now and the ground is harder and the V Forged had no problems interacting with the turf and taking a nice clean divot along with very nice impact. <a href="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5492.jpg"><img'>http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5492.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21741" title="DSCF5492" src="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5492.jpg" alt="" width="648" height="432" /></a> Along with being larger than the Tour Model, the V Forged also has obvious offset. Its not terrible but very noticeable and for some a possible turn off. Otherwise it frames the ball quite well. The longer face makes for a wide hitting area and the top line is straight and reasonably thin. The V Forged is workable to an extent with easy draws and fades at command. Controlling trajectory is a bit harder as the weight is all quite low which makes for a slightly higher launch and good stopping power thanks to above average spin. <a href="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5506.jpg"><img'>http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5506.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21744" title="DSCF5506" src="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5506.jpg" alt="" width="648" height="432" /></a> Past generations of the V Forged have always been one of the most popular choices for improving players to even low handicappers thanks to their superb all around performance. The new model has retained all these characteristics, ease of use, above average distance (lofts are also strong), accuracy and control, and feel, even with radically changed visuals. I feel the new design has in fact improved the feel which is fantastic in this iron. In previous models the cavity got so low and perimeter weighted that it may have lost some of its pure feel. With the half cavity design or almost muscle like lower back, a more pure and soft but not mushy feel is evident, the kind that feels great but still give you enough feedback to know where the ball compressed on the face. While it is thickest in the middle, that lower muscle spans towards the toe and heel minimizing harsh feel on toe miss hits. Center strikes and those towards the toe feel very good and are rewarded with a strong trajectory and pretty much straight ball flight right at the pin. <a href="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5487.jpg"><img'>http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5487.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-21747" title="DSCF5487" src="http://www.golftoimpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/DSCF5487.jpg" alt="" width="648" height="432" /></a> The Yamaha's are available with DG S200 and NS Pro 950GH and this year Modus3 is a no charge upgrade. The standard graphite shaft is the proven Graphite Design Tour AD 75 in a BB Blue color this year. Yamaha also offers a variety of upgrade shafts directly from the factory. You can check out the new Yamaha V Forged <a href="http://www.tourspecgolf.com/product_info.php?products_id=4639"><strong>here in the pro shop!</strong></a>