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I contacted our Works rep to find out more on this club and made a blog post including a video from Works. http://www.golftoimpress.com/2010/06/works...h-fairway-wood/
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You mean the Works Golf Foresight right? The 11* is actually marked the #1 club which is as you say the Ground Driver, they also have a #2 at 13* and a standard #3 at 15*. We have a works account, I wonder if people would be interested in this club? How is it off the tee?
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Thanks R for letting me know. Here in Japan, fakes and counterfeits are very much frowned upon and not tolerated so I've never seen any here myself. Rarely if ever clubs are sold as heads only new here as there isn't that same "tour issue" or prototype craze as there is in the States.
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Haha you can get in line... I've been asked by 10+ people over the last few months. (^_^) It is most likely those Eggs are authentic, because typically lesser known JDM gear is NOT counterfeited because counterfeiters would not benefit from something that does not have global mass appeal and most people don't even know what PRGR is. This is why the most common counterfeited clubs are of course TM and Callaway cause everyone knows who they are. So I thought about it and its possible someone is getting their hands on factory discards, ie heads that did not make Quality Assurance ie too light in weight or not quite to spec.
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Differences - US Superfast TP and Japan Superfast TP
gocchin replied to nudgeegolf's topic in Japanese Golf Clubs
At this point I don't know what the differences are... yet. Typically in dual releases there are differences of some kind ie like the R9 and R9 Max. As for pricing... I think you've been on this site long enough to know the different markets and pricing structure japan has... (^_^) things simply cost more in Japan. We sell the Burner TP below the TM Japan retail price which is of course still much higher than the US retail price. -
I just saw one at ebay and I'm assuming its from the same seller. Just to let you guys know, PRGR does NOT in anyway sell heads only or release heads to any retailers and that includes us with an actual PRGR Japan account. That said the head looks pretty real. The only thing that throws me off is the headweight. My 17* was 208.9g when I weighed it while reshafting. That one says 200g which would need 45" in length to reach D0+
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Send me the pictures and I will tell you if it is real... or when you hit it you will know....
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Still there: http://www.tourspecgolf.com/PRGR-EGG-Spoon...n39s-and-Ladies
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I've added the AF-202 to the shop for those who are interested. Please email me if you want to purchase as they cannot be checked out through the pro shop. I can help those who need recommendations on shafts or specs.
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I've added the 210KGX to the shop for those who are interested. Please email me if you want to purchase as they cannot be checked out through the pro shop. I can help those who need recommendations on shafts or specs.
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The thing about the Egg is that it is so unique when it comes to design, materials, sound and feel. I am surprised nobody has tried to make an FW along the same lines or maybe they are afraid to? It is no surprise however that the EGG released in 2008 is still in PRGR's current lineup as we all know how good it is. The stock shaft is good but it does launch rather high which is not necessarily a bad thing if people have trouble getting the ball in the air. It is meant for max carry. Gosh I have to put a Crazy in mine too it sounds like. I love the FW80 in my PRGR 7 W.
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Come on C, don't you read the blog? I posted about them last week! (^_^)
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I think idrive is talking about the previous generation TR-X 505 FW's. The new 2010 505 RED FW is even better. They rival the EGG for distance but are indeed very shallow.
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Met with Tomaru-san and learned about how Grind Studio works... Check out the post on the blog! http://www.golftoimpress.com/2010/05/intro...asahiro-tomaru/
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Golf Digest Japan's latest issue just did a big report on the longest and most forgiving fairway woods. I'll do a report on the blog but I was not surprised that only ONE fairway wood was rated as THE ultra distance FW out of 20 current models. I was not surprised because like me you all know which FW it was... damn I gave away the climax...
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The master specs his at 4* open because he believes this works for an arching stroke but you can pretty much choose any angle you want.
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It's probably the most popular head shape for a Gold's. As Tourpsecgolfer explained on the blog, GSS is in fact JIS SUS303: http://www.golftoimpress.com/2009/07/golds...r-in-the-works/
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I actually have a lot of info about wedges, the types grinds, head shapes, and so on... Let me see what I can dig up.
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The Maruman 31CX was a blade set from around 7 years ago I think. Those must be the wedges from that set. I'd have to check around for more info.
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Will definitely do that since the Burner Forged and R9 forged target similar audiences.
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Damn I am so sorry to hear that. Been to China many times... I know it can be bad for things like this. D, just contact me if you need anything and I will help you out.
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Crazy TJ-46 with Kamui 456 Inital Impressions
gocchin replied to bogeydog's topic in Japanese Golf Clubs
Actually the numbers are not inconsistent. Based on the numbers I see they are consistently higher than other brands. Many factors will indeed affect the CPM reading of any club, the machine, the clamp size, club length, head weight, grip on or off, even balance point of the shaft. So far from my club, bogeydogs club, as well as all the data I have on Crazy shafts here it appears Crazy CPM's out anywhere from 10-20 cpm higher than other brands depending on the brand. Chris's build is a bit of an exception due to the much lighter head though it is still higher than expected. And what we have found so far is that even with the higher CPM, the clubs are surprisingly very playable and amazing performers even when the player usually could not play a CPM that high. Based on the Shaft Bible which I refer to on a daily basis, where most of the top shafts in Japan were built with the exact same head and grip to 45" Crazy CPM'ed also 15-20 higher than equivalent flexes from other brands... so the numbers are consistent. (Stiff flex LY01 and CB50 were both at 273cpm finished) What we are trying to figure out is why does the shaft feel and perform so good considering the CPM is so high?? I cannot verify jamnguy's numbers (clamp size, grip on or off, headweight etc) but I do know the CB80 is the softest of all the models followed by the TJ-46. -
The factories in Niigata and Thailand are both ISO certified so follow the same standard of quality and workmanship, though yes there are economical factors to take into consideration. Running a factory in Thailand is cheaper all around, including the actual factory, labour/workers, etc. So which brand is forged where does depend a lot on that brands budget for each model. I toured the Endo factory in Niigata and was shown the process that OEM's go through. The first step is design and R&D which is done sometimes in partnership with Endo and sometimes on the brand's own ie bring their own designs. Once the budgets and costs are established, the brands and Endo determine which is the most cost efficient for that brand, forging in Japan or Thailand. The moulds are all made of the same quality and the manufacturing processes are the same. The only difference I cannot determine is the grade of steel. While Endo insists on JIS grade S20C steel for there irons and wedges, I cannot determine if there is a quality or grade difference within that grade. ie is all JIS S20C created equally. As for drivers, the type of Ti use will determine costs as well as how advanced the face and body designs are. Even the designs of the irons greatly affect price ie an iron like the AF-701, multi piece, multi material iron with tungsten weights forged right into the sole then laser welded as roll face. It's not a cheap production process. I did not go to Thailand to check their factory out, though its huge. However even in the day I spent at Endo, I saw MANY brands being made during my visit including, Titleist and Cobra forged irons, Callaway Legacy Drivers, S-Yard Drivers and irons, Yamaha drivers and irons, and at the time Nike Drivers. There were probably many other brands there too but his is just what I noticed that day being forged and produced here in Japan.
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I have not hit either yet but from comments I get from players and testers the 435 appears to be the better of the two drivers from Crazy. Yourpressed has the 435 model. Last I heard he likes it. The 435 gets much more recognition in Japan as a pure performer. I hope to hit one soon!
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Crazy TJ-46 with Kamui 456 Inital Impressions
gocchin replied to bogeydog's topic in Japanese Golf Clubs
As some of you have seen on the blog, I am testing a Longest Yard 01 right now in a Callaway Legacy Aero. Yesterday I CPM'ed it a few more times using the 5" clamp to make sure results were accurate and the readings came out all around 241cpm for an R2 flex which is Senior Flex or Soft Regular (my first reading was 239 as I noted on the blog but I thought I should check a few more times and on different machines to verify). When I flex the club in my hands it feels more like an Stiff/Regular flex. Today I took it for the real test, 18 holes on my home course Kiminomori. Let me say my feelings were the same as Bogeydog at first. I thought I doubt I can play this shaft as those who know me know I love soft shafts and typically play clubs between 220-230cpm but usually right around 225cpm. OKAY. I was wrong. I can play this shaft and I have to honestly say I HAVE FOUND MY SHAFT. I've tried several JDM shafts considered great control shafts including the Tour AD W-50, Rombax 5V06, Bassara Hawk, Axiv V, and of course many many other JDM shafts. The Longest Yard is easily the longest and the straightest. With softer shafts I gained distance but sometimes had to rely on good timing for optimal smash factor, but mis hits easily resulted in pushes or pulls if my timing was off. I swung away with no thought about timing at all and every drive not only went deadly straight, but 10-15 yards further than I usually hit them. My playing partners were surprised at how straight I was, and my trajectory actually came down. I felt I was getting less spin and more run. Needless to say I am very excited about this. I am one who switches clubs and shafts... A LOT. But I think I have found my calling in the Longest Yard. My only thinking can be that regardless of the higher CPM's, both myself and bogeydog can play these clubs because of the quality of the shaft and carbon used. The high grade carbon simply returns its shape quickly and accurately and predictably. What surprised me was, I swung hard, it went straight, I swung smooth, it went straight. I tried to draw it slightly left, it did exactly that. I tried to softly fade it right. It did exactly that. I have not had this much fun driving the ball during 18 holes in a long time. Come to think of it I never have.... I plan on reshafting my hybrids and maybe even irons now if they can perform this predictably. Golf is all about consistency... I think I found some with a much stouter LY-01!! Can you tell I am excited????? (^_^)