radd Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 I know this is a big statement to make with very little evidence but i think y cutters are already on sale. I went down to my driving range to have a look about and saw the rac satin retail wedges. I picked up the 60 and counted the grooves. 15 Surely not but yes this one had 15 next satin wedge yip 15,every satin wedge had 15 grooves. I thought hang on lets count the black ones.16 yes 16 grooves. I asked the guy in the shop he had no idea. So i thought, if tm had developed a product that was better than any other thing out there why would they not release it to the public. After all the company is there to make money. The only thing that puzzles me is that surely they would document the fact when releasing the wedge. Hmmmmmm a tough one. But one thing is for sure the 15 groove satin will perform differently to the 16 groove black chrome and oil quench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tickyboy Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 My RAC chrome has 16... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radd Posted December 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 I know the chrome wedges have 16 its the satin model that has 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrParr1noid Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 But one thing is for sure the 15 groove satin will perform differently to the 16 groove black chrome and oil quench. What proof is there that 15 grooves in satin perform differently than 16 grooves in black chrome or oil quench. And besides, who gives a damn, these statements you're making are getting real old real fast, don't you have anything else to do? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jboy Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 The Koolaid has gone to the lads head! Didn't you say you played off +2... well why the hell would you want a Y cutter?? Do you really believe 90% of those assholes who favour pixie dust over a few lessons when they can't even hold a half decent conversation never mind a golf club with their tall tales of 60+ yards of backspin blah, blah???? I think you are reluctant to give your cash to the wizard of Oz over the BSG-rainbow there for some Y shaped nonsense so your brain is playing groove tricks on you in the local pro shop. Already been posted groove count has nothing to do with Y crappers. Keep your cash and buy some nice retail... you'll sleep easy knowing you weren't ripped off and I doubt the Y cutter would benefit your game that much. Is your wedge play that crummy playing off +2 ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radd Posted December 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 lol yea fair point but the reason i got interested in groove count is because todd send me an email explaining that 15 grooves ment y cutter. But i think your right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defiant25 Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 all the rac wedges were gone at golfsmith today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungleheadjim Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 groove count means nothing with y cutters. only 2 things designate a y cutter from retail or box groove 1. 2 dots on the hosel 2. small y stamped on the face near the toe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoover Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I know of at least ONE Y-cutter (stamp on face) bought in a retail golf shop. And no, it was not used. :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddiec Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 what the heck is all this talk about Y cutters? I guess your all referring to the way the groove is cut into the wedge I guess. Anyway, whether a wedge has 15 or 16 grooves I'm sure has no effect on your shot, one more groove is not going to help anybody. Most guys on tour are always either spinning the ball too much or too little when you think about it, so more spin or less spin off your wedge really is not going to give you an advantange imo. condition and what ball your playing will have just as much effect on your spin. jmho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubycoho Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 what the heck is all this talk about Y cutters? I guess your all referring to the way the groove is cut into the wedge I guess. Anyway, whether a wedge has 15 or 16 grooves I'm sure has no effect on your shot, one more groove is not going to help anybody. Most guys on tour are always either spinning the ball too much or too little when you think about it, so more spin or less spin off your wedge really is not going to give you an advantange imo. condition and what ball your playing will have just as much effect on your spin. jmho Is not about the number of grooves but about the groove design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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