Landy Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 So what's the longest, hottest driver combo out there? USGA or not. Please let me know(Chris). Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 So what's the longest, hottest driver combo out there?USGA or not. Please let me know(Chris). Thank you IMO 65% of the clubs performance comes from its shaft so its an easy choice of the Axiv 6060 if you swing under 105mph and the 6064 if over 105mph. Other models are the same technology and build just in different specs. Picking the head is a little more difficult, I hit 400cc heads the best, I have tried all the latest drivers with multiple shafts: -ERC HOT/FT-3 low penetrating trajectory, very odd sound, slightly awkward head shape, Deep face and long when hit on the screws but not much low toe and heel forgiveness. -R7XR is more forgiving than the R5TP and almost as deep. It has more face area also. The inverted cone technology IMO has maxed out and pretty much all TM heads feel the same and fly the same distance. If you like TM drivers this one is easiest to hit and longest with its SP700 face material. -Mizuno JPX sets up very well and is a very user friendly driver, its long and its head size is a perfect 400cc's, Its made in Japan by Mizuno and features some killer shaft options. -PRGR TR-X Duo I'm playing this one now with the 6060M its face is deep with a modern style shape, It sets up beautiful and feels very soft when hit perfectly, it still has the titanium feel even with its carbon crown. -Nike DFI 395/460 Long and very easy to hit, Its deep face and looks are very clean and with its carbon crown it too still feels like titanium of the face. Long and dumb easy to hit. -Tourstage X-Drive Not as easy to hit as the others due to its square face and stiffer shaft options but after a re-shaft its a different animal, longer off the face than most of the other drivers listed when hit on the screws, It seems like a low spin mid trajectory driver, The feel of the face is remarkable. IMO you could pick any one of these heads and install the proper shaft that kicks perfectly with your swing and be very happy with the results. Its sad when people buy new drivers and count them off without re-shafting or giving them a second chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Posted June 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 So the Nike DFI is the longest and most forgiving of the group? Then the Mizuno. Umm. I'd like to try the new AXIV shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 So the Nike DFI is the longest and most forgiving of the group?Then the Mizuno. Umm. I'd like to try the new AXIV shaft. Talking about the head only, Distance: I give it to the ERC Hot, then the JPX. Forgiveness the DFI 460 then the R7/XR. I play the PRGR because the setup is perfect for my eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Posted June 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 So it's between the Miz and the Cally. Which one?? Tough call. I think the Miz will be a better quality club. Are they just as long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 So it's between the Miz and the Cally.Which one?? Tough call. I think the Miz will be a better quality club. Are they just as long? Do you like TM drivers? If so try the XR. Between the Miz and Cally yes the mizzy is the better made club, It sets up better IMO and feels great off the face, unlike the cally where its awkward sound and feel bothers some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landy Posted June 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 I have an XR03 as a back up. What shaft can I get on the R7Xr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I have an XR03 as a back up.What shaft can I get on the R7Xr? The best shaft options are with mizuno, If you are willing to wait 4-6 weeks I can get you one at any lie angle and face angle with any shaft. The TM and Cally dont have very good shaft options and currently the ERC HOT is on major back order in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroux Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Ok, great info -- but what is the longest legal driver combo out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlauber Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I have hit the ERC Hot and the XR-05 CTI..both at a little over 46"...and when hit on the screws, they are longer than any other legal driver I have hit (Cally 454, TM R7, Titleist 905 T, Cobra 450). In fact, on one hole where I know I hit the Cally 454 and the ERC Hot on the sweet spot...the ERC Hot went 336, and the 454 went 319. I assume that the illegal faces are worth about 10-15 yards...although Callway claimed that the ERC+ was only 5yds longer in their robotic testing. My swing speed is somewhere around 120, so that could account for the extra distance. Incidently the ERC Hot comes with Graphite Design AD shaft, and the CTI with a stock Speeder from Fuji. I extended both of them 1 " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroux Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 So what's the longest, hottest driver combo out there?USGA or not. Please let me know(Chris). Thank you IMO 65% of the clubs performance comes from its shaft so its an easy choice of the Axiv 6060 if you swing under 105mph and the 6064 if over 105mph. Other models are the same technology and build just in different specs. Picking the head is a little more difficult, I hit 400cc heads the best, I have tried all the latest drivers with multiple shafts: -ERC HOT/FT-3 low penetrating trajectory, very odd sound, slightly awkward head shape, Deep face and long when hit on the screws but not much low toe and heel forgiveness. -R7XR is more forgiving than the R5TP and almost as deep. It has more face area also. The inverted cone technology IMO has maxed out and pretty much all TM heads feel the same and fly the same distance. If you like TM drivers this one is easiest to hit and longest with its SP700 face material. -Mizuno JPX sets up very well and is a very user friendly driver, its long and its head size is a perfect 400cc's, Its made in Japan by Mizuno and features some killer shaft options. -PRGR TR-X Duo I'm playing this one now with the 6060M its face is deep with a modern style shape, It sets up beautiful and feels very soft when hit perfectly, it still has the titanium feel even with its carbon crown. -Nike DFI 395/460 Long and very easy to hit, Its deep face and looks are very clean and with its carbon crown it too still feels like titanium of the face. Long and dumb easy to hit. -Tourstage X-Drive Not as easy to hit as the others due to its square face and stiffer shaft options but after a re-shaft its a different animal, longer off the face than most of the other drivers listed when hit on the screws, It seems like a low spin mid trajectory driver, The feel of the face is remarkable. IMO you could pick any one of these heads and install the proper shaft that kicks perfectly with your swing and be very happy with the results. Its sad when people buy new drivers and count them off without re-shafting or giving them a second chance. ...and the best legal setup....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poekie Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 For the US? NONE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 So what's the longest, hottest driver combo out there?USGA or not. Please let me know(Chris). Thank you IMO 65% of the clubs performance comes from its shaft so its an easy choice of the Axiv 6060 if you swing under 105mph and the 6064 if over 105mph. Other models are the same technology and build just in different specs. Picking the head is a little more difficult, I hit 400cc heads the best, I have tried all the latest drivers with multiple shafts: -ERC HOT/FT-3 low penetrating trajectory, very odd sound, slightly awkward head shape, Deep face and long when hit on the screws but not much low toe and heel forgiveness. -R7XR is more forgiving than the R5TP and almost as deep. It has more face area also. The inverted cone technology IMO has maxed out and pretty much all TM heads feel the same and fly the same distance. If you like TM drivers this one is easiest to hit and longest with its SP700 face material. -Mizuno JPX sets up very well and is a very user friendly driver, its long and its head size is a perfect 400cc's, Its made in Japan by Mizuno and features some killer shaft options. -PRGR TR-X Duo I'm playing this one now with the 6060M its face is deep with a modern style shape, It sets up beautiful and feels very soft when hit perfectly, it still has the titanium feel even with its carbon crown. -Nike DFI 395/460 Long and very easy to hit, Its deep face and looks are very clean and with its carbon crown it too still feels like titanium of the face. Long and dumb easy to hit. -Tourstage X-Drive Not as easy to hit as the others due to its square face and stiffer shaft options but after a re-shaft its a different animal, longer off the face than most of the other drivers listed when hit on the screws, It seems like a low spin mid trajectory driver, The feel of the face is remarkable. IMO you could pick any one of these heads and install the proper shaft that kicks perfectly with your swing and be very happy with the results. Its sad when people buy new drivers and count them off without re-shafting or giving them a second chance. Chris....are you referring to the japanese version of the xdrive or the usga approved pro spec version ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 So what's the longest, hottest driver combo out there?USGA or not. Please let me know(Chris). Thank you IMO 65% of the clubs performance comes from its shaft so its an easy choice of the Axiv 6060 if you swing under 105mph and the 6064 if over 105mph. Other models are the same technology and build just in different specs. Picking the head is a little more difficult, I hit 400cc heads the best, I have tried all the latest drivers with multiple shafts: -ERC HOT/FT-3 low penetrating trajectory, very odd sound, slightly awkward head shape, Deep face and long when hit on the screws but not much low toe and heel forgiveness. -R7XR is more forgiving than the R5TP and almost as deep. It has more face area also. The inverted cone technology IMO has maxed out and pretty much all TM heads feel the same and fly the same distance. If you like TM drivers this one is easiest to hit and longest with its SP700 face material. -Mizuno JPX sets up very well and is a very user friendly driver, its long and its head size is a perfect 400cc's, Its made in Japan by Mizuno and features some killer shaft options. -PRGR TR-X Duo I'm playing this one now with the 6060M its face is deep with a modern style shape, It sets up beautiful and feels very soft when hit perfectly, it still has the titanium feel even with its carbon crown. -Nike DFI 395/460 Long and very easy to hit, Its deep face and looks are very clean and with its carbon crown it too still feels like titanium of the face. Long and dumb easy to hit. -Tourstage X-Drive Not as easy to hit as the others due to its square face and stiffer shaft options but after a re-shaft its a different animal, longer off the face than most of the other drivers listed when hit on the screws, It seems like a low spin mid trajectory driver, The feel of the face is remarkable. IMO you could pick any one of these heads and install the proper shaft that kicks perfectly with your swing and be very happy with the results. Its sad when people buy new drivers and count them off without re-shafting or giving them a second chance. Chris....are you referring to the japanese version of the xdrive or the usga approved pro spec version ????? I found the USGA version more stable over the entire club face than the High Rally. The HR version when hit on the screws for me was only 3-5 yds longer....I think, but for some hard hitters they claim to have 10-15yds HR vs Conforming. Most people using say the conforming model is longer than almost everything out there, Its not the easiest to hit driver IMO due to its square face and neutral weighting. The major OEMS are tricking us more and more in recent years with higher than stated lofts, closed face angles and many internal draw bias configurations. This is helpful to the mid-handicapper with a big Ego but not to the scratch player looking for a players driver. The XD2 is all player IMO, The way its tipped, the stock shaft options and just the overall shape and feel. If you don't have single digit player like ball striking with the driver, IMO the XD2 shouldn't be in the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 i just got my 9.5 deg tourstage 405 in yesterday....it was shafted with the gd-m-65....not a bad shaft but it was very very high launching and resulted in some towering shots.....this didnt work out bad because i am normally a low ball hitter....it had a nice balance and felt stable.....i would say this driver is as nice a driver as i have ever hit......it seems reasonably long ..but it is predictable and super accurate...this club is definitely a fairway finder with super carry......oh and the headcover should not be ordered because it takes up a bit of space in the garbage can...it is the worst headcover i have seen in all my years of golf hoing !!!! i think a pair of winter socks would provide more protection and be better looking as well !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctlaltdel Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 hmm ... why are the japan retail heads hotter ?? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 hmm ... why are the japan retail heads hotter ?? :confused: Cause of the C.O.R silly! :wink: In Japan there is no limit, In the U.S its limited to .083 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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