matthewsrixon Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 What's the difference and the pros/cons of each? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the1stunner Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 They both find the spine of the shaft. So the cost is the only factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrazygolfer Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 But the question is ... does the clubfitter knows where to place the spin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 But the question is ... does the clubfitter knows where to place the spin? Where should the spine be placed? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted December 9, 2005 Report Share Posted December 9, 2005 Where should the spine be placed? :confused: Sometimes a shaft has two spines, one is more prominent than the other. When you find these two spines, you will have two neutral zones. What I have found best is to find the most prominent spine and align that at the 12 o'clock position if you are looking down at the club head. This usuall aligns the neutral zones in the 9 o'clock position and the 3 o'clock position. Easiest thing to remember is to find the most prominent spine and put it in the 12 o'clock postion (crown of the clubhead). This should put the neutral positions in the 9 o'clock and 3 o'clock position. Does that make any sense to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey3108 Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 What's the difference and the pros/cons of each? Puring and Flo'ing are pretty much the same thing and spined is totally different thing. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 Puring and Flo'ing are pretty much the same thing and spined is totally different thing.Joe Joe I understand what spined is, but could you give a more detailed explanation of puring/floing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey3108 Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Joe I understand what spined is, but could you give a more detailed explanation of puring/floing? It's coming from a words Flat Line Oscillation, that means the straightest side movement out of the shaft. This way it'll increase your chances to catch the sweet spot more often + Straighter shot. If you combine this method w/ a correct spine position, it will eliminate a toe droop effect during swing. IMO toe droop is the last thing i want to have in the club during swing. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicksy Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 so is it worth the extra cash getting it spined and flo'd. Can any of the manufacturers do it. I noticed in my new Ping G5 the shaft has the writing on the angle instead of underneath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 so is it worth the extra cash getting it spined and flo'd. Can any of the manufacturers do it. I noticed in my new Ping G5 the shaft has the writing on the angle instead of underneath. I've never FLO'd anything, but once I felt the spine of a shaft in the spine finder, there was no doubt in my mind that I would spine everything that I built from then on. It's pretty crazy to feel the spine of a shaft, especially in a steel shaft. It will barely bend on the spine compared to the neutral points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfgolfer Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I've never FLO'd anything, but once I felt the spine of a shaft in the spine finder, there was no doubt in my mind that I would spine everything that I built from then on. It's pretty crazy to feel the spine of a shaft, especially in a steel shaft. It will barely bend on the spine compared to the neutral points. SST Puring is a patened process (i.e., machine and software) for finding the hard side of the shaft and spine matchign the club against the target line. This Fall, I had some of the clubs I play SST Pured to try it out :tsg_smilie_money3: as I'm a believer intuitively in the "hard side" concept. Having said that, difficult to know what method is most/more effective. I think it comes down, as usual, to who you are workign with - not what. My guys at Bay Golf can feel the hard side of the shaft really, really precisely per the above, and I've loved every thing they've done for me. But, like Joe, they've been doing this for decades and what they can do by feel might require a machine for someone else. Interestingly, I've talked to a lot of people who didn't want their shafts aligned because it would potentially throw off the look of the shaft by not orienting the logo on top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 SST Puring is a patened process (i.e., machine and software) for finding the hard side of the shaft and spine matchign the club against the target line. Interestingly, I've talked to a lot of people who didn't want their shafts aligned because it would potentially throw off the look of the shaft by not orienting the logo on top My only problem with SST puring is that places like Golfsmith won't pure the shafts in a cut length without paying a hefty price. When you cut the shaft, sometimes it can really become an entirely new animal. You have to have it spined/FLO'd/SST'd after being cut to playing length. I've also had to explain to people out on the course why my shaft graphics were all twisted into weird positions in my clubs. If you don't explain that you spined the shafts, it really looks like you just threw the club together and you had no clue what you were doing :tsg_smiley_laughatyou: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicksy Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 so are you saying its worth it or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 so are you saying its worth it or not? I have had clubs pured at Golfsmith, but once I learned about how shafts can change once their cut, I just purchased a spine finder and started finding the spine for myself. Now it is probably not as perfect as the SST puring system, it was pretty much paid for after doing just a few shafts and saving the money from golfsmith. I think finding out where the spine is located is most definitely worth it. Like I said though, golfsmith will really only do the SST on an uncut shaft unless you pay twice as much to have them do it to a cut shaft. You really need to try it to see if it's worth it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicksy Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 thanks... i know my shafts have been spined.... can't say i really notice a significant difference over any i've had before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfgolfer Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 thanks... i know my shafts have been spined.... can't say i really notice a significant difference over any i've had before... IMO, it's like a lot of other things - it removes a variable which might build confidence. There have been a number of tests on things like Puring that seem to indicate it does help. One thing I feel very confident of is that spining your shafts will not hurt the shaft's performance (i.e, no down side). Why not remove the variable? If you are a member of this site, I think you already know what I mean. :tsg_smilie_cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicksy Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 think that's why we're all here brother. :tsg_smilie_cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plus1 Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 IMO, it's like a lot of other things - it removes a variable which might build confidence. There have been a number of tests on things like Puring that seem to indicate it does help. One thing I feel very confident of is that spining your shafts will not hurt the shaft's performance (i.e, no down side). Why not remove the variable? If you are a member of this site, I think you already know what I mean. :tsg_smilie_cool: well put sf. to be honest im not sure if spinning really works or not, but the way i see it is that every set ive had spined .....i seemed to pepper the flag with! This being the case im gonna continue to spine all my clubs until i give up, just like sf says...to cover one more possibility and remove another variable! :tsg_smilie_cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicksy Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Any chance of getting our brains spined, pured and flo'd. Lol.... :tsg_smilie_cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 Any chance of getting our brains spined, pured and flo'd. Lol.... :tsg_smilie_cool: Sure, I just think it would take a larger set of tools :tsg_smiley_yes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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