simplex117 Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 (edited) First, I have a SS between 100-105. I want a mid trajectory launch and kind of a loose stiff flex. I currently play a diamana 73 x in a 905 and it plays too stiff, the balls trajectory is too low and loss of distance. Now my question is between the 6064 and 6568. How does the torque differences affect the shot itself and what are their differences in feel? I hear great things about the 6064 from people with my swingspeed but im thinking that it has a bit too much torque. Can someone explain this to me? I have never hit it but i am sure if i find the right flex and torque, the shaft will be good to go. Thanks again everyone... Ed :tsg_smilie_smile: Edited December 17, 2005 by drkhorse117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrazygolfer Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Torque is the measure of lateral twisting the shaft experiences under playing condition. The less the shaft and head twist at impact, the tighter the dispersion and thus more accuracy. Torque ranges from 1.8 to 7.2. You don't have to worry too much about torque unless you're an agressive swinger, in that case you would need to look for a shaft with lower torque rating since that shaft will be less prone to twisting, which equates to greater consistency. The higher the torque, the softer the feel since high torque shaft absorbes most of the vibration upon impact. If you want a lighter shaft and softer feel, go with the 6064L (62 grams w/ torque rating of 4.2) versus 6568 (66 grams & 3.5). The 6064L (low kick point) will help with getting the ball into the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplex117 Posted December 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 thanks crazy! Do you think the 6568 will play much stiffer due to the lower torque rating? I want to strike a balance between a softer stiff and low torque. What do you think and what are your experiences with the 6568? Again, thanks for your insight and feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrazygolfer Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 (edited) Sfgolfer and Bernard aka Plus1 or Chris can give you a better answer regarding the 6568 since I only played with the 6064, which has a torque rating of 4.2. However, based on your ss of 100 to 105, I do believe the 6568 will be boardy for you unless you are an agressive swinger from the top. Noted the lost of distance and the inability to get the ball in the air with the Diamana 73X shafted to the 905 were due to: (1) the 73X has a torque rating of 3.2 thus a stiffer feel, (2) mid/high kick point which is intended for a more boring trajectory; and (3) it was probably inserted all the way in the bore thru hosel of the 905. For comparison, my ss is about 108/110, semi-agressive down-swing with high trajectory. For these reasons, I want my shaft to be between high 60 grams to low 70 grams with torque rating between 2.2 and 3.5 with high kick point. Both the I65 and the stock Srixon 3003J (tipped 1/4") fit my swing characteristic. Edited January 4, 2006 by sfgolfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplex117 Posted December 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 (edited) Awesome reply, answered pretty much all my questions but one. So, if I tip or butt trim the shaft which i will need to, it comes in a 46 and i need it at 44, will it change the torque and flex characteristics? Im gonna put it in a j33 p. thanks again for all your help Crazy. P.S. Do you play the 6064 or the 6564? the 6064 has a torque rating of 4.2 and you said you were looking of t.r between 2.2 and 3.5. the 6564 has t.r of 3.5. Oh yeah, and what is SR flex? is that in between stiff and reg or is that senior flex? ed Edited December 17, 2005 by drkhorse117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrazygolfer Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 (edited) Tip trim affects the flex of the shaft ... for instant tip trim of 1/2" results in slightly firmer feel and 1" results in a substantially firmer feel. If you are to trim the shaft, tip trim first and then butt trim to playing lenght. Why do you need to tip trim? Do you have a delayed release of the cocked/hinged wrist (defines as the angle between the left arm and the shaft for right-hand golfer)? Here's why, in the dynamic of a down swing, if you unhinges the wrist as soon as the start of the down swing, the force that causes the shaft to bend will be less as the club approaches the ball and therefore a softer tip is needed since a softer tip will cause the club to bend more. Remember that "boardy" feel? Too soft a tip or too firm a tip are both no good. I don't play with 6064 any more. The current shafts are Tour AD M65(s), I65 and Srixon stock shaft. SR I think is an in-betweener of a reg. and stiff. Edited December 18, 2005 by acrazygolfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplex117 Posted December 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 thanks crazy, ur the man!!! Im off to buy the shaft! thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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