Matrix Ozik Code 6 Shafts

[DoctorDave]

Looking for some info on this shaft.

Really interested in how it performs in a R7 425 TP Tour.

Do the Stiff flex and the Strong flex play true to flex?

Which one of these two flex's would serve a scratch

handicap with a SS of 103-105 the best?

Anyone playing the Code 6 in a 9.5* 425 Tour?

Need some feedback. Thanks.

[gocchin]

Hi Doc,

The code 6 plays pretty true to flex and every individual shaft has it's cpm measured and stickered on the shafts. You have pretty similar specs to Tourspecgolfer here and I think he was using a stiff code 6 with positive results. I had an R flex 242cpm code 6 in a J33R 10.5 and a R7 425 11.5 and both felt very smooth and accurate.

[DoctorDave]

Hey gocchin,

Thanks for the input. I'm going to go with a Code 6 in a R7 425 Tour 9.5* loft.

I just can't end up with a shaft that is to soft. So the choice between the

stiff and the strong will be an important one.

I was reading a thread from November '06 where Tourspecgolfer was

conducting a personal test and the Code 6 was included. He was going

to have some of his friends participate also. But the thread ended

without any of the final results. Has he posted these findings or was

the test never conducted? If its on here somewhere, maybe you know

where it is.

DoctorDave

[hudson77]

Hey gocchin,

Thanks for the input. I'm going to go with a Code 6 in a R7 425 Tour 9.5* loft.

I just can't end up with a shaft that is to soft. So the choice between the

stiff and the strong will be an important one.

I was reading a thread from November '06 where Tourspecgolfer was

conducting a personal test and the Code 6 was included. He was going

to have some of his friends participate also. But the thread ended

without any of the final results. Has he posted these findings or was

the test never conducted? If its on here somewhere, maybe you know

where it is.

DoctorDave

Dear Dave,

You might be interested in my experience with code 6. I am using TM425 TP(8.5") with shafted code 6 stiff flex.

First of all, I woud like to show my drive as follow.

1. Total weight : 313.3g

2. CPM(after equiped) : 258

3. SW : D4.4 (weight configulation are 2-10-10-2)

As per the spec, It seems like a little bit weak for me (my average SS is around 105~108mph). But it is definitely not. It is very tight in comare with my back up (905T Tour AD M75 stiff). Moreover, TM425TP(Tour Issue) has a little bit open face, as you know well.

The feeling at impact is very solid and clean. However, what you must bear in mind is that the launching angle is high in compare with the originally stocked ROMBAX 65 stiff. Actually, when i ordered that shaft, I was recommended STR flex, but for making a controllable bomber, i chose stiff flex. It is real good.

As you know well, the grapic is gorgeous also. There are so many premium shaft in the market, but i can say that code 6 is one of those.

For your reference, I am using Tour AD M65 stiff, Tour AD M75 stiff, and code 6 stiff. Among those, if someone tell me choose one, I will take code 6.

Unlike other matrix ozik series (TP-7, TP-7X, Altus, candy proto so on), code series is very price competitive and true to its flex.

Therefore, I would like to recommed you to take stiff flex and tip it a liitle. That will be good solution.

Thanks

Edited January 22, 2007 by zerohandy

[gocchin]

Good feed back as always zerohandy!! Hopefully Dave that can help you out a bit. The Code 6 is definitely "tight"!!

[DoctorDave]

Dear Dave,

You might be interested in my experience with code 6. I am using TM425 TP(8.5") with shafted code 6 stiff flex.

First of all, I woud like to show my drive as follow.

1. Total weight : 313.3g

2. CPM(after equiped) : 258

3. SW : D4.4 (weight configulation are 2-10-10-2)

As per the spec, It seems like a little bit weak for me (my average SS is around 105~108mph). But it is definitely not. It is very tight in comare with my back up (905T Tour AD M75 stiff). Moreover, TM425TP(Tour Issue) has a little bit open face, as you know well.

The feeling at impact is very solid and clean. However, what you must bear in mind is that the launching angle is high in compare with the originally stocked ROMBAX 65 stiff. Actually, when i ordered that shaft, I was recommended STR flex, but for making a controllable bomber, i chose stiff flex. It is real good.

As you know well, the grapic is gorgeous also. There are so many premium shaft in the market, but i can say that code 6 is one of those.

For your reference, I am using Tour AD M65 stiff, Tour AD M75 stiff, and code 6 stiff. Among those, if someone tell me choose one, I will take code 6.

Unlike other matrix ozik series (TP-7, TP-7X, Altus, candy proto so on), code series is very price competitive and true to its flex.

Therefore, I would like to recommed you to take stiff flex and tip it a liitle. That will be good solution.

Thanks

Hello there zerohandy,

First of all I would like to point out what a pleasure it is to read your post (and gocchin's) which reflects a

decent and mannerly tone. Something that is seriously lacking on BSG where there is a definite undercurrent

of contempt for one another. It gets to me sometimes. I'm just not that mean spirited. Enough said.

As gocchin stated this is good feedback. The kind that can help an aging golf Pro like me. Thanks.

Now here is what I have been experiencing with my driver. I have a Cleveland Ti460 with a Diamana

Red Board 63S in it. Face angle is half a degree open and even though it says 9.5* loft on the club

it is really 10.5*. I really like the shaft. It is smooth and the soft tip and firm mid section has a nice

easy to hit sensation to it. Yet it does not balloon the ball at all. But, the 10.5* loft is just to much

and this Cleveland head, although solid with very straight flight, spins the ball way to much. This

equates to sometimes launching alittle high and too steep of a descending angle, which means not

enough roll. Us old farts need roll.

So here is my thinking on the upcoming new driver. The R7 425 Tour 9.5* head is a lower spin one.

The Code 6 has a firmer tip section and as Matrix states, quote; "the mid section has 50 count boron

placed 10-12" from the butt of the shaft for a special "hinge" in the mid section for a very high

moment of inertia. This setup should really make it easy to avoid launching to high and most likely

lower my spin rate as well. Hopefully this will equate to a flatter descending angle and more runout.

This kind of contradicts what you say about how the Code 6 launches for you. My concern is some

say that it plays pretty soft to flex. So I feel that I am caught in between the "stiff" and the "strong"

flex categories. I have a screwy situation because of past heart and back surgeries. One day I can

have alot of pain and my SS is only 98 and on other days when I'm feeling really good my SS can

be up to 107. Honestly, most days it is about 102-104. Sad.

I am a very consistent player (last 20 scores average 70.27) and strike the ball pretty good. So

there is no way I can have a shaft that is to weak. I like to turn it over right to left, so I am slowly

getting the impression that the "stiff" might be better for me than the "strong". Especially, as gocchin

put it the Code-6 Stiff plays "tight". You mention that also. I really like the weight and CPM of your

425 setup. I'm sure mine will spec close to yours. I hope that it will launch lower and spin less, as

advertised, than my current driver. I just want to make the right choice with the flex. You suggest

tipping a stiff. How much and how would that compare to the strong flex in your opinion?

I really appreciate your input. That includes you too gocchin! Maybe after reading this you will have

something further to add. I'm just trying to ensure that the Code-6 Stiff and this head combo will not

play to weak and spin to much. If not, I may have a winner. Thanks again. I definitely will be spending

more time over here on this board. Talk with you soon.

Dave

Edited January 22, 2007 by DoctorDave

[hudson77]

Hello there zerohandy,

First of all I would like to point out what a pleasure it is to read your post (and gocchin's) which reflects a

decent and mannerly tone. Something that is seriously lacking on BSG where there is a definite undercurrent

of contempt for one another. It gets to me sometimes. I'm just not that mean spirited. Enough said.

As gocchin stated this is good feedback. The kind that can help an aging golf Pro like me. Thanks.

Now here is what I have been experiencing with my driver. I have a Cleveland Ti460 with a Diamana

Red Board 63S in it. Face angle is half a degree open and even though it says 9.5* loft on the club

it is really 10.5*. I really like the shaft. It is smooth and the soft tip and firm mid section has a nice

easy to hit sensation to it. Yet it does not balloon the ball at all. But, the 10.5* loft is just to much

and this Cleveland head, although solid with very straight flight, spins the ball way to much. This

equates to sometimes launching alittle high and too steep of a descending angle, which means not

enough roll. Us old farts need roll.

So here is my thinking on the upcoming new driver. The R7 425 Tour 9.5* head is a lower spin one.

The Code 6 has a firmer tip section and as Matrix states, quote; "the mid section has 50 count boron

placed 10-12" from the butt of the shaft for a special "hinge" in the mid section for a very high

moment of inertia. This setup should really make it easy to avoid launching to high and most likely

lower my spin rate as well. Hopefully this will equate to a flatter descending angle and more runout.

This kind of contradicts what you say about how the Code 6 launches for you. My concern is some

say that it plays pretty soft to flex. So I feel that I am caught in between the "stiff" and the "strong"

flex categories. I have a screwy situation because of past heart and back surgeries. One day I can

have alot of pain and my SS is only 98 and on other days when I'm feeling really good my SS can

be up to 107. Honestly, most days it is about 102-104. Sad.

I am a very consistent player (last 20 scores average 70.27) and strike the ball pretty good. So

there is no way I can have a shaft that is to weak. I like to turn it over right to left, so I am slowly

getting the impression that the "stiff" might be better for me than the "strong". Especially, as gocchin

put it the Code-6 Stiff plays "tight". You mention that also. I really like the weight and CPM of your

425 setup. I'm sure mine will spec close to yours. I hope that it will launch lower and spin less, as

advertised, than my current driver. I just want to make the right choice with the flex. You suggest

tipping a stiff. How much and how would that compare to the strong flex in your opinion?

I really appreciate your input. That includes you too gocchin! Maybe after reading this you will have

something further to add. I'm just trying to ensure that the Code-6 Stiff and this head combo will not

play to weak and spin to much. If not, I may have a winner. Thanks again. I definitely will be spending

more time over here on this board. Talk with you soon.

Dave

Dear Dave,

I can not express any word than thanks for your kind feed-back. All golfers always think over and over for finding the best fit equipments for themselves regardless of their ages and their sex. As one who always gets bright ideas and advices, it is common sense and responsibility to share my experiences and my humble ideas, furthermore if my experiences are good of assistance to you. In that means, TSG is the main server to provide diverse space where golfers around the world can fill it up. Thanks TSG!!!

OK Dave! If i add up some comments more, you definitely will not want to tip triming of code 6. In case of code 7 and 8, those are soft tip version even though those are little bit heavier than code 6. Usually, firm or stiff tip shaft are felt more harder than what it is. I can handle, as like i mentioned before, GD Tour AD M75 (75g, 3.0 TQ, 275 CPM) freely, however, i had some time to fit into code 6(stiff). Surely, now i can handle code 6 in my own way. Therefore, in order for saving cost and time, i would like to recommend you untipped code 6 stiff shaft first. After testing it, if you want more stiff flex, you can amend yours without additional overcost. In terms of tip triming, in my memory, experts seemed to advise below half inch.

Untill now, i am not feeling tip triming at all.

I hope this will be of good help. Good luck Dave!

zerohandy from Seoul.

Edited January 22, 2007 by zerohandy

[+TourSpecGolfer]

The ball flight it gave me in an epon 460 head was a tad lower than i expected, the shaft has something great going for it, it does not feel boardy or lack any kick but the dispersion is tight and slightly low. It reminds me of a rombax shaft with extra kick. Im a fan as i can feel this shaft load almost as much as I can feel an Axiv load.

[DoctorDave]

Greetings zerohandy & TourSpecGolfer,

Thanks for the additional info. It has been very helpful.

I am going to go with the R7 425 Tour with the Code-6 stiff.

I have a feeling it will feel very similar to my Diamana Red Board

but a bit tighter with lower launch and less spin. I like the analogy

of a Rombax shaft with extra kick! The fact that it is without any

boardy feeling appeals to me. Good stuff TourSpecGolfer!

As far as tipping it goes, I agree with you zerohandy not to do that.

I have never been a fan of tipping shafts to make them play stiffer.

Especially now a days. Shafts are designed with a specific profile

built into them and tipping can change that profile if your not careful.

If I want something stiffer I would just buy the stronger flex shaft.

Again to all of you, thanks for the great info. I will have this thing

probably by the weekend. So when I'm done putting it through its

paces I will write a complete review for your perusal. Till then I bid

you a fond farewell.

Dave

Edited January 23, 2007 by DoctorDave

[cap217]

So what were the results with the shaft? I am in the same boat with SS and flex. I am about 2-3 mph's more than you though but prefer a softer flex if I can. It seems like I will be able to with this shaft. Also, what were results with launch and spins and ball speeds?