Bat Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 (edited) Classic = of enduring interest, quality, or style I was looking at Gocchin's WITB pics and thought how beautiful the Z-101 looks. I know it's not as old as some of the others, but I'd still consider these 'a classic' set of irons. Even with all the new irons out these past few years I'd still consider them to be in the top 10 irons I'd bag. A) What old school irons do you consider a classic AND will still put them into play? B) Which of the current models do you predict to be the NEXT Classic set of irons 5 years from now? For me... A) Z-101, TM 300 Forged, MR-23, TS-202 B) X-Forged, MP32, ViQ Forged 2007, Type J Bat Edited February 16, 2007 by Bat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 My MP11s are a classic. I still think they are about as good as anything Mizuno has ever produced. My nomination for future classic is interesting, however I like the Scratch AR-1s. Cavity blade, but stylish in my view, and can be ground however you like and their not too busy when you look at them from the back CLASSIC!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 I would nominate most older Japanese Mizuno forged blades and also my beloved T-Zoid Pro Limited Edition. Future Classics: Stay Tuned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clevelaand Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Have to agree about the TS Z101's. They are definitely "classic" irons. I will use them for years to come. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 This is a tuff one as about 98% of you guys have not hit many of the true classics in japan. What we think are classics are based off of how it is percieved on the internet. So if I push hard enough to say holy grail this and that for a couple of years we can add one to the list. MR-23 even 4 years ago was a set collecting dust and selling for dirt cheap in Japan, At that time it was 1500 here used on ebay thanks to a few guys on BSG saying its the next big thing. But was it? Nope, just another JPN forged set in a large sea of cast clubs. Another thing that bugs me is how people can review golf clubs without building them to their own specs, or just the amount of golfers/customers i have that dont know their own lie/loft/length/swing weight/ and grip size. After all these years if you dont have those numbers on paper then your missing the whole point. People say 1* flat and dont understand that Mizuno's flat is not the same as Titleist's or when they say standard loft and you compare their last set to their new one and the difference is 2*. Its called setting yourself up for faliure and to be 100% honest we got guys here who claim scratch or better that really dont even know their specs. In order to do a side by side test, all variables must be removed, all clubs must be the same specs all the way around with a shaft you know you enjoy. Then both heads are equals on the playing field and you can put them to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Alexander Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 (edited) This is a tuff one as about 98% of you guys have not hit many of the true classics in japan. What we think are classics are based off of how it is percieved on the internet. So if I push hard enough to say holy grail this and that for a couple of years we can add one to the list. MR-23 even 4 years ago was a set collecting dust and selling for dirt cheap in Japan, At that time it was 1500 here used on ebay thanks to a few guys on BSG saying its the next big thing. But was it? Nope, just another JPN forged set in a large sea of cast clubs.Another thing that bugs me is how people can review golf clubs without building them to their own specs, or just the amount of golfers/customers i have that dont know their own lie/loft/length/swing weight/ and grip size. After all these years if you dont have those numbers on paper then your missing the whole point. People say 1* flat and dont understand that Mizuno's flat is not the same as Titleist's or when they say standard loft and you compare their last set to their new one and the difference is 2*. Its called setting yourself up for faliure and to be 100% honest we got guys here who claim scratch or better that really dont even know their specs. In order to do a side by side test, all variables must be removed, all clubs must be the same specs all the way around with a shaft you know you enjoy. Then both heads are equals on the playing field and you can put them to work. ........so Chris, that said, what is YOUR favourite. (I'm not scratch, but know my lie's, lofts, lengths, swing weights the lot) Particularly fussy about 4* increment through out the irons. Edited February 17, 2007 by Jack lives here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Mizuno MP60 Mizuno S300 Driver Mizuno MP425 Craft DRIVER Mizuno TN-91 EPON 460 X-Drive 460 Epon Type J Epon Driver Epon FW Epon Wedges BRIDGESTONE JS PROFESSIONAL WEAPON Any Gauge Kyoei forged product Vega Irons There are loads more but thats just what i think has got the quality and design to toe up with just about anything. These clubs are the sort that feel soft or muted. Thats just what i like over crisp or clicky feels. IMO right now golf clubs are better than ever, I must admit them square drivers sure go easy, now all they need is one that feels pure. I cant wait to hit the PRGR and Mizuno High MOI Drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 Which new models from PRGR and Mizuno would have high MOI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gus Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 (edited) I disagree Chris; the MR-23 US Specs are as sweet as any iron I've personally have ever hit. I place them second on the list to Miura CB-201's then my custom Mizuno MP-37's cross the line at number three. Both the 23's and 201's are solid as a rock in the players CB segment. I do agree with your opinions regarding setup; upright vs flat (ie. Titleist vs Mizuno) can be totally misleading. I like to spec out any set of irons I purchase (new or used) then work off a base set of figures my club builder and I have come up with that seem to fit me as a stock baseline. Then we tweak each iron to reflect sutle differences in the playing characterisitics (loft gaps) of that particular model (offset; weighting, grinds, etc). Once we have done this I play them for a while to determine if "my" custom setup is spot or needs modification (this includes swingweights; I will pull them apart in a heartbeat). My actual setup takes a mimimum of two weeks of actually playing golf before I will consider them dialed in. This is why I offer actual numbers (lies/lofts,swingweights,lengths) to a buyer if I choose to sell my irons because if I say "1* flat/D3" that's incorrect and very misleading. My 6 iron might turn out 2.5* flat and 1.5* strong vs stock before it's dialed in for my game... Edited February 18, 2007 by BigBen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHUANG421 Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 I would nominate most older Japanese Mizuno forged blades and also my beloved T-Zoid Pro Limited Edition. Future Classics: Stay Tuned Do you know how man of the T-Zoid Pro Limited Edition were made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Do you know how man of the T-Zoid Pro Limited Edition were made? No idea but probably not as limited as one might think. Regardless they are still very sweet and IMO still softer than recent models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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