idrive Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Took the Driver out of the box and straight to the driving range today. I alternated hitting 5 balls with the 430P and 5 balls with my Epon 460. I am going to play with it tomorrow on a familiar course. If it plays the way it hit and felt on the driving range, with some amount of forgiveness... the Epon will be sitting. Ball flight: Low, Penetrating, did seem to help gently draw the ball. for me this is excellent as I have no problem getting the ball in the air and my mis**ts off the driver are high fades. Feel: Fantastic, SOLID! Look: Fantastic, Setup was easy and natural. Excellent head shape. I loved everything about it. I'll follow this up tomorrow night after playing with it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putt4doh Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 I can't wait to get a full report....and how about some pics? : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosoojj Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 I am going to play with it tomorrow on a familiar course. If it plays the way it hit and felt on the driving range, with some amount of forgiveness... the Epon will be sitting. You mean you liked Tourstage 430P better than Epon 460? Since I'm thinking to get 430P with QT, I can not wait to hear how you played from the golf course. FYI, I recently purchased brand new Tourstage X-Blade 2 MB with Nippon 950GH and I love it so much. Compare to Titleist 660, I hit about 10 yards longer and much straighter. Now I love par-3s LOL. And I need new driver that I can hit with easy/aggressive swing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted February 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Quick follow up after putting the 430P in play yesterday. Ball flight is a lower, penetrating ball flight. Was Excellent in the wind. I was able to fade and draw the ball without much effort. I can't say the ball went farther with the Tourstage vs the Epon. But on the harder fairways there was more roll with the 430P.. hence a bit more distance. Both clubs could make anyones bag and stick. Both solid, workable and forgiving, with the nod going to the Epon for forgiveness. Lower ball flight = 430P Higher ball flight = Epon 460 I have not had a chance to hit the 460 tourstage yet, very soon tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Good feedback and your observations are right on. The new X-Drive line has far lower trajectory than previous X-Drives while the Epon definitely flies higher. When Golf Gear initially tested all the new X-Drive models, the 430P was the longest of the bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blader-X Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Idrive, could you please give us some description of the feel of the QuattroTech shaft as well as some specs of it as well? Which model did you go with? Thanks again for the write up and initial insight into its playing characteristics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted February 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Idrive, could you please give us some description of the feel of the QuattroTech shaft as well as some specs of it as well? Which model did you go with? I have the Quattro Tech 65. Stiff Flex. Quattro Tech Shaft weighs between 65 and 67g depending on flex and has a torque rating of 3.6-3.8*. Initial feeling and commented by others too, was the shaft seemed quite firm, at least for a stiff flex. Can really feel the low kick, especially when I have been playing a shaft with a much higher kick point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blader-X Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 I have the Quattro Tech 65. Stiff Flex. Quattro Tech Shaft weighs between 65 and 67g depending on flex and has a torque rating of 3.6-3.8*.Initial feeling and commented by others too, was the shaft seemed quite firm, at least for a stiff flex. Can really feel the low kick, especially when I have been playing a shaft with a much higher kick point. Glad to hear that the shaft is firm as I just got my 3wood with the Quattro and had intended to order x-flex but ended up mistakenly ordering s-flex. Looking foward to hitting mine as well as hearing more updates about the TourStage 430P. In terms of the X-Drive 460, wil that be the P model you will be hitting or the 460? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Glad to hear that the shaft is firm as I just got my 3wood with the Quattro and had intended to order x-flex but ended up mistakenly ordering s-flex. Looking foward to hitting mine as well as hearing more updates about the TourStage 430P. In terms of the X-Drive 460, wil that be the P model you will be hitting or the 460? 460, the 460P (fade bias) with an X-stiff shaft would not work for me. Just back from another long practice range session with both drivers. I alternated shots, hit 5 with one and the 5 with the other.... back and forth. Most of what I had experienced held true. Different ball flights. Both of these drivers are awesome. 430P for windy days???? Epon for nice days???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I can't wait to get a full report....and how about some pics? : ) notice the face has grooves all the way across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosoojj Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I just ordered Tourstage 430P 9.5* with Tour AD Quattro Tech 65 Stiff I should be able to play with new driver on next weekend so I will report here how I like it later. Can not wait... hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poekie Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 What are you guys ss, that you decided to order stiff? If i look at the GD website it seems at around 100mph you already need xstiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) What are you guys ss, that you decided to order stiff? If i look at the GD website it seems at around 100mph you already need xstiff. On a good day, 105. I don't think I would even consider the X-stiff. It took a good swing to get the kick from the shaft. Edited February 23, 2007 by idrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putt4doh Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Fantastic info and pics! After just picking up a 435, you're giving me the itch for the 430P. It's just too pretty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted February 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I just ordered Tourstage 430P 9.5* with Tour AD Quattro Tech 65 Stiff I should be able to play with new driver on next weekend so I will report here how I like it later. Can not wait... hehe Lucky... I've had this club ordered since early December!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blader-X Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Just a couple of quick comments on the QuattroTech. I do agree with Idrive that the shaft does have quite a firm feeling even at a stiff flex. As I've mentioned in this and other posts, just recently got a new Epon 3wood with the QuattroTech 85s. First round with it tomorrow but the backyard net session I did like the feel of the shaft very much. What I'm wondering in this post is, is the tetra-axial nature of this shaft (like the Axiv-V) contributing to that firmer feeling than one would expect. While firm however, in both cases the QuattroTech and Axiv-V give one the feeling that the shaft is with you all the way throughout the swing. So yes, its firmer than one would expect, but it supports the swing the entire way. I'm liking this new QuattroTech very much from both the looks and feel of the club. Would you Idrive or anyone else that has hit the QuattroTech agree with some of my initial observations? Any thing else to add? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_t Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Just a couple of quick comments on the QuattroTech. I do agree with Idrive that the shaft does have quite a firm feeling even at a stiff flex. As I've mentioned in this and other posts, just recently got a new Epon 3wood with the QuattroTech 85s. First round with it tomorrow but the backyard net session I did like the feel of the shaft very much. What I'm wondering in this post is, is the tetra-axial nature of this shaft (like the Axiv-V) contributing to that firmer feeling than one would expect. While firm however, in both cases the QuattroTech and Axiv-V give one the feeling that the shaft is with you all the way throughout the swing. So yes, its firmer than one would expect, but it supports the swing the entire way. I'm liking this new QuattroTech very much from both the looks and feel of the club. Would you Idrive or anyone else that has hit the QuattroTech agree with some of my initial observations? Any thing else to add? I agree completely Blader, I put one in the Epon driver and it's even smoother than the Aviv to hit. Feels soft, but definately plays stiffer than previous Tour-AD's. Ball flight was more penetrating in the Epon than the axiv, distance about the same on calm days but I reckon the QT would edge it in the wind. I'm up there between 108-112 and don't think the X-flex would really suit, more than happy with the S, as you say, it goes where you hit it. All in all a very consistant performer, would rate it higher than the axiv for people wanting more penetrating ball-flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blader-X Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I agree completely Blader, I put one in the Epon driver and it's even smoother than the Aviv to hit. Feels soft, but definately plays stiffer than previous Tour-AD's. Ball flight was more penetrating in the Epon than the axiv, distance about the same on calm days but I reckon the QT would edge it in the wind.I'm up there between 108-112 and don't think the X-flex would really suit, more than happy with the S, as you say, it goes where you hit it. All in all a very consistant performer, would rate it higher than the axiv for people wanting more penetrating ball-flight. You're right. Just my initial observations with the new 3wood I would say the QT produces a very penetrating flight. Even though the kickpoint is low, the ball flight does not balloon at all. In fact, you would think the shaft was a high kickpoint shaft with the ball flight it produces. I'm actually thinking now maybe the QT should go into the Epon? Maybe I'll just wait until a new driver comes out!! Oh no, here we go again. I hate when those seeds of "should we get a new club" are planted in the brain!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 I'm actually thinking now maybe the QT should go into the Epon? Maybe I'll just wait until a new driver comes out!! Oh no, here we go again. I hate when those seeds of "should we get a new club" are planted in the brain!! Tourstage 430P w/quattrotech 65 S vs Epon 460 w/Axiv-v 7072 For me, The Tourstage is now in the bag. My ball flight is lower, much more penetrating... This combo is producing the ultimate ball flight for me. AND, I'm hitting the ball farther, noticeably, with every bit of the accuracy and forgiveness of the Epon. I didn't think the Epon could be beaten. It would be very interesting to put the quattrotech shaft in the Epon... and I was told today they had found the cure for buying a new club every time they come out with a new one.. it's called death! The only known cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kincaid82 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Tourstage 430P w/quattrotech 65 S vs Epon 460 w/Axiv-v 7072 For me, The Tourstage is now in the bag. My ball flight is lower, much more penetrating... This combo is producing the ultimate ball flight for me. AND, I'm hitting the ball farther, noticeably, with every bit of the accuracy and forgiveness of the Epon. I didn't think the Epon could be beaten. It would be very interesting to put the quattrotech shaft in the Epon... and I was told today they had found the cure for buying a new club every time they come out with a new one.. it's called death! The only known cure. Thanks for all the feed back, i think i will still stick with Epon 10.5 still, but go with the quattrotech 65 S, i am looking for a medium boring trajectory. Still looking like ours bag will be very similar once i get everything ordered from chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartolomeo1 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I love my 460 X-Drive with an Ozik. Bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goshinboku Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 460P is here, just waiting for a reshaft with fuji 771TA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 The Triax weave doesnt make it feel stiffer, it could be the fact that its a tad more butt stiff than the other shafts you have hit in recent. A softer butt section gives the impression of softer feel and more kick. Quattro Tech is a 4 ply shaft that is machine made, i love this shaft inserted untipped in my driver. Hey idrive, try the quattro in the epon and see if you get better results than the X-Drive. I think you like the XD due to the shaft, their is a reason why the Quattro Tech is the #1 played shaft on the JPGA tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosoojj Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 (edited) Quick review for 2 rounds with X-Drive 430P 9.5* QT 65 Stiff: First impression was WOW what a beautiful driver. It looked so good that I couldn't wait to hit so I went to range before work. The address is nice and clean. I hit about 20 balls. I couldn't get much roll but I could see that I hit about 20-30 yard longer than my Titleist 905R. Since then I went to range almost every night First round was last Saturday. It was nice sunny day. After few holes with warm up, I hit so far that I couldn't believe my eye. I think I hit average 280-300 yards. On one of par-5 585yards, I hit more than 340 and had easy birdy More I hit, I can feel that this driver is for aggressive swing player because I couldn't hit with easy and soft swing. Also it launch almost same as my previous Titleist 8.5* so I love it. Second round was last Sunday and I had even better drives. I hit many 320 yards (lots of roll because of hard fairway) and i had to use new Fourteen 52* and 58* wedge many times for 2nd shot. Accuracy is much better than Titleist 905R and impact sound is soooo clean and rock solid. I just love this driver, it's one of the best driver I have ever hit so far. My bag is changed so dramatically now. I only need to change 3-wood and bag to Tourstage now hehe Edited March 13, 2007 by gosoojj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudson77 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Quick review for 2 rounds with X-Drive 430P 9.5* QT 65 Stiff:First impression was WOW what a beautiful driver. It looked so good that I couldn't wait to hit so I went to range before work. The address is nice and clean. I hit about 20 balls. I couldn't get much roll but I could see that I hit about 20-30 yard longer than my Titleist 905R. Since then I went to range almost every night First round was last Saturday. It was nice sunny day. After few holes with warm up, I hit so far that I couldn't believe my eye. I think I hit average 280-300 yards. On one of par-5 585yards, I hit more than 340 and had easy birdy More I hit, I can feel that this driver is for aggressive swing player because I couldn't hit with easy and soft swing. Also it launch almost same as my previous Titleist 8.5* so I love it. Second round was last Sunday and I had even better drives. I hit many 320 yards (lots of roll because of hard fairway) and i had to use new Fourteen 52* and 58* wedge many times for 2nd shot. Accuracy is much better than Titleist 905R and impact sound is soooo clean and rock solid. I just love this driver, it's one of the best driver I have ever hit so far. My bag is changed so dramatically now. I only need to change 3-wood and bag to Tourstage now hehe Great review!!! I myself also grabed my ordered 430P /w Quattro TECH 65S (9.5") and tested it in compare with other gamers that i already owned. 1) Current gamer * TM R7 425 TP(Tour) 8.5" w/ Matrix Ozik Code 6 stiff (dead sqaure face) - Total weight : 312.5g - Length : 45" - SW : D4 - CPM : 262 - TQ : 3.1 2) Back up toy * TM R7 460 TP(Tour) 9.5" (real loft 9.8" tweacked 1.5" open) /w Matrix Prototype (Candy red apple) - Total weight : 322g - Length : 44.75" - SW : D2 - CPM : 280 - TQ : 2.5 Usually i chose shaft and head playing out of left fairway side. In that meaning, Current gamer and 430P are highly recommended. On the other hand, even though 460TP has been enforced to opened, one or two in a ten, irrevocable hook happens. In terms of ball flight, 460Tour shows missle like penetrating flight having tad more fade bias. 430p shows middle and 100% fade bias. However, 425 Tour shows high ,long and straight ball flight. Therefore, in terms of distance, I raise hand for 425 Tour w/ code 6. But there is not evident difference. However, when it comes to feel at impact and playability, TourStage New X-Drive 430P is second to none. At least, I dare to say that I can not have a chance to make recovery shot from left side in the fairway. TS opened a new era of drive arena. For your information, my ss is around 105mph~110mph. Pure stiff flex of QT65 is good enough for my SS. Good luck. Zero from seoul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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