gocchin Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I'm just curious about Honma Beres, anyone ever hit any of their drivers? Forgiving as they claim? Any feedback would be great. Thanks. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I'm just curious about Honma Beres, anyone ever hit any of their drivers? Forgiving as they claim? Any feedback would be great. Thanks.T I took out a Beres 711 for a game last year and it was crap for the price. The head is way too big for my taste and distance is short compare to my own. I think they realize the problem with the 711 hence came up with the 712 in a hurry. The 712 seems to be much better looking. I am not good enough to play the 9 series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted April 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 There was an MG611 on ebay.... maybe I should stick to finding the PRGR 502 Silver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 There was an MG611 on ebay.... maybe I should stick to finding the PRGR 502 Silver... The 611 is for stronger ladies and/or seniors and in your case senior lady? haha PRGR 502 M36 or M40 would be a way better choice and also the InpresX 460d in R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BELA Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I will try to keep this simple. I have a set of 712 irons. Awesome. Best irons I have ever hit. They are not the prettiest on earth. A little big even for me and the cavities are too busy. But you dont see them at address and the topline is quite thin. Anyway who cares when they are the Longest, straightest iron I have ever tried. They rock. Beres hybrids are good but very expensive (the irons too of course). I would better buy two XXIO than one Beres for the same price. Beres woods are also very good. Very easy to hit and very long. The faces are too shallow for me but they work very good from the fairway. I would seriously consider buying one of these babies... But Beres drivers.... To put it simple....I prefer Honma drivers. I have hit and played demos Beres 712, 711, 811 drivers and wanted to like them but that did not happen. Hit them in regular, stiff, 9 and 10 degrees.....no love. They perform well, dont get me wrong, but they are not outstanding. I hit my SQ with the stock shaft longer and straighter...and like the feel better A couple of months ago I bought from Chris an Epon 460. Last week I played 9 holes with it and with a demo Beres 811 side by side. I used the Beres just once. I hit a good shot with it but needed no further testing.....EPON ALL THE WAY. Just my opinion anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincenti Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I own a Iron Set tw901, for me it's the best iron set I ever had and a little bit pricey as well. I am not regret it and even comes to the crazy idea to replace the steel shaft with Ozik shaft. But in this site everybody is praising Epon and Miura, maybe I'll have to give a try to them first before spending another bucks for the never-ending-journey-spending-for-equipment. I also own the 911 driver, it's very forgiving and straight. I thought it's also a very good driver, but to create distance you have to hit it on the sweet spot and my distance is never like my old Titleist 905. Lately I spoke to a sales guy in HONMA Wheelock Place Singapore, he admits that the driver is lacking on distance and that's why the issue the 912 and considered as an unsuccessful product row. Hicks, I think I have to start the never-ending-journey-spending-for-driver again. Tourstage X-Drive or maybe EPON 460 shall be the option. Anybody feels that Beres 911 lacks on distance too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2_2 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I have only tried 9 series drivers, but I didn't think the 911 was bad. It feels pretty solid, and I love the ARMRQ shafts in the 9 series. The 911 is not super forgiving, from my limited time with it... I hadn't heard that was why the 912 came out, but it makes sense. The heavier (60g plus) ARMRQ shafts are really, really solid. They play true to flex (if even a touch stiff imo) but they load well, and they have a nice kick that is smooth yet controlled. I haven't done a comparison between the Epon, ERC Hyper and X-Drive 460, but if I do so, it would be fun to throw the 912 into the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincenti Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 I went to the range today to prove your opinion and I found a slight arm position change on the to of my backswing and had it corrected. Yes, you are right. TW 911 is not very forgiving but still a forgiving club enough for weekend golfers. And about the distance, I think it's not a magic cure club. It does not give you additional distance, but a more consistent ball flight (and an effortless driving! At least compared to my already-sold Titleist clubs). Thanks for your inspiration, I think I can keep this thing in my bag and save bucks :)) I have only tried 9 series drivers, but I didn't think the 911 was bad. It feels pretty solid, and I love the ARMRQ shafts in the 9 series. The 911 is not super forgiving, from my limited time with it... I hadn't heard that was why the 912 came out, but it makes sense. The heavier (60g plus) ARMRQ shafts are really, really solid. They play true to flex (if even a touch stiff imo) but they load well, and they have a nice kick that is smooth yet controlled. I haven't done a comparison between the Epon, ERC Hyper and X-Drive 460, but if I do so, it would be fun to throw the 912 into the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2_2 Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 My pleasure Vincenti, and I'm glad to hear that you're playing well with the club. I think you have really hit the nail on the head. The driver is 'forgiving' relative to older, sub 400 cc drivers, but it is not designed to hit bombs on every shot. It is however quite good for working shots and manipulating the trajectory of your drives as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboSport Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 I am looking for a new driver to replace my Maruman. I tried the Beres MG712 today with the ARMRQ B49 2-star shaft. Felt very controlled but I'm not sure about the distance and it lacked the oomph I was looking for. I also tried the Beres MG701 irons, with the same shafts, felt similarly controlled but trajectory too high for my taste. It confirms my suspicion that the Beres line is not the same as the Twin Marks. It does not stir your excitement as the latter. After the death of Hiro Honma, the company is not the same. I should try the EPON perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marckhor Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) I hope this thread has not ended yet - I saw some used Honma drivers on sale on e-bay priced fairly reasonable. I saw some TW 911 drivers for sale. My first driver and 3 wood were actually the Honma Big LB series back in 1997. They are very user friendly. If I can recall, my 3 wood face was closed with a few degrees to compensate for my beginner's slice back then. I do find the shaft quite whippy. In fact, a regular flex plays to a ladies flex. Having read your comments, I now have second thoughts of the TW 911. I currently have a titleist 905T driver with the Tour Plaform 26.3 Reg flex shaft. The dampener plug flew out a few weeks back and it's now back with Titleist to be fixed. I find this as a very valid reason to buy a new driver Can anyone share some knowledge on the following: 1) Anyone knows how does the TW 911 9* compare to the Titleist 905T 9.5*. Some of you TSG members say that there is not much difference or the Titleist plays better. As I can recall, Honma Drivers are very forgiving. 3) How does the S flex rating on the Honma shaft plays to the Regular on the Fujikura's? 3) How does the star rating work on the shafts 1star vs 2,3,4 stars. Can anyone share some knowledge on this? Edited July 9, 2007 by marckhor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I hope this thread has not ended yet - I saw some used Honma drivers on sale on e-bay priced fairly reasonable. I saw some TW 911 drivers for sale. My first driver and 3 wood were actually the Honma Big LB series back in 1997. They are very user friendly. If I can recall, my 3 wood face was closed with a few degrees to compensate for my beginner's slice back then. I do find the shaft quite whippy. In fact, a regular flex plays to a ladies flex. Having read your comments, I now have second thoughts of the TW 911. I currently have a titleist 905T driver with the Tour Plaform 26.3 Reg flex shaft. The dampener plug flew out a few weeks back and it's now back with Titleist to be fixed. I find this as a very valid reason to buy a new driver Can anyone share some knowledge on the following: 1) Anyone knows how does the TW 911 9* compare to the Titleist 905T 9.5*. Some of you TSG members say that there is not much difference or the Titleist plays better. As I can recall, Honma Drivers are very forgiving. 3) How does the S flex rating on the Honma shaft plays to the Regular on the Fujikura's? 3) How does the star rating work on the shafts 1star vs 2,3,4 stars. Can anyone share some knowledge on this? For whatever it is worth, the Big LB of yesteryears would be completely different than the Beres line. Dont be fooled by the Armrq stock shaft. The flex of stock driver shaft on the 711 would play considerable softer than the comparable flex on the 911. The 911 is designed for low handicapper players or pro while 711 is for mid to high handicappers. IMO the 811 and 911 would worthy of consideration while the 711 is crap. The Titleist 905R could compare but not the 905T. The heavier Armrq shaft in 911 could play stiffer than the comparable Fujifura which is famous for softer to flex like DG. As to the star system on shaft, we had a lengthy discussion on this board and I am sure you can find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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