landshark Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 I still have a problem of a pull-draw. my ball contact is fine, but shots either start at the pin or left, and then draw left. not a huge hook, but a sweeping draw. what are some causes and fixes? i don't think i'm really coming over the top, but prob a bit underplane as my divots(when i do make one) go out to the right a bit. i would think my clubface is closing as i get at impact, so looking for the fix. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 My initial thoughts: Club to upright, need to be bent flat a degree or two? Grip to strong, weaken the grip by rotating the grip counter clock wise at address. Grip to small? A slightly larger grip will help not over rotate. I'd start by weakening the grip :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landshark Posted January 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 actually clubs are prob a tad too upright and could go flat if anything. grips are fine. my grip is very neutral. i think if i weakened it it would cause over-rotating. i think i may be stopping my pivot and hands are releasing/flipping into the ball. just not sure how to fix it or keep my body to rotate through. hmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmond Golfer Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 I still have a problem of a pull-draw. my ball contact is fine, but shots either start at the pin or left, and then draw left. not a huge hook, but a sweeping draw. what are some causes and fixes? i don't think i'm really coming over the top, but prob a bit underplane as my divots(when i do make one) go out to the right a bit. i would think my clubface is closing as i get at impact, so looking for the fix.thanks You will know you are coming over the top, if your driver tends to pull or slice. Classic over the top sign is pulled irons and sliced/pulled long clubs. This is because its easier to get the face closed on an iron than the driver. If you hit your driver straight with a slight draw, than you may just have an alignment problem. Stance may need to be a tad more open, also. The grip advice given is great info also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landshark Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 hopefully it will warm up a bit friday and i'll hit some balls. i'm going to work with a slightly weaker left hand grip as well as trying to take the club back a little straighter rather than going in too quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I am certainly no swing mechanic expert but I am having pretty much the same issue off and on. I believe my cause of pull/draw or pull/hook could be a flatter swing with my longer clubs and not having finish high. By finishing high would promote a slightly more upright swing or swing plane. I have been experimenting with a 20* hybrid at 42" which is almost 1.5 to 2" longer than 'standard.' While the lie angle of 59* is fine for the length, the extra length does promote a more sweeping motion and flatter plane. With an in to out swing path, a flatter plane swing could easily ends up a pull hook. A weaker grip is no help in my situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmond Golfer Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 I am certainly no swing mechanic expert but I am having pretty much the same issue off and on. I believe my cause of pull/draw or pull/hook could be a flatter swing with my longer clubs and not having finish high. By finishing high would promote a slightly more upright swing or swing plane. I have been experimenting with a 20* hybrid at 42" which is almost 1.5 to 2" longer than 'standard.' While the lie angle of 59* is fine for the length, the extra length does promote a more sweeping motion and flatter plane. With an in to out swing path, a flatter plane swing could easily ends up a pull hook. A weaker grip is no help in my situation. I think you may want to play around with a 20 degree hybrid @39 inches. This way it plays more like the club it replaces the 3 iron, instead of a fairway wood with the flatter swing. The shorter shaft makes it more versatile for specialty shots, punch outs and short game play. Lengthening the shaft so much should give you a gap in distance you do not want and perhaps two similar clubs because of the duplicate distance and make the hybrid harder to hit down on as it is designed to be hit. At 42 inches, I would opt for a 7 wood over the hybrid, to accommodate a flatter swing. It is just as useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodsie Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I still have a problem of a pull-draw. my ball contact is fine, but shots either start at the pin or left, and then draw left. not a huge hook, but a sweeping draw. what are some causes and fixes? i don't think i'm really coming over the top, but prob a bit underplane as my divots(when i do make one) go out to the right a bit. i would think my clubface is closing as i get at impact, so looking for the fix.thanks Most Pull/Draw shots are caused by the arms/hands passing by the chest too quickly at impact. Try to stay connected (arms to chest) thru the shot. You see the Pro Golfer putting a towel or headcover under the left armpit to stay connected and not let the arms out race the chest thru the shot. Voila' gone is the Pull/Draw and fewer chips from the grunge to the left of the Green. Try this little tweak, I think you will like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landshark Posted March 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 thanks goodsie. btw, do you have a website for your club building? i'm heading to vegas in a couple weeks and may hook up with jeff to see some of his goodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richmond Golfer Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 thanks goodsie. btw, do you have a website for your club building? i'm heading to vegas in a couple weeks and may hook up with jeff to see some of his goodies. Don't you mean "meet up" with Jeff. We don't "hook" here, maybe only a little draw once in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettSmith Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 hey there! Here are 3 Things you can take to the bank: 1. Initial direction is all about path 2. Ball curvature is face angle 3. "Over the Top" is fiction in the modern move. You must however: a. Be Connected. Force the issue with a glove and attach to your under left arm and chest. b. At half-way back your right shoulder works UP the plane.... like starting a lawnmower. My feeling is that your shoulder plane is too horizontal. Thumbs-UP to Idrive for the upright possibility as well. If you are too upright mechanics don't matter, that heel snag will KILL YOU. It's also very possible that you are too effectively upright because of your iron length.... your equipment relative to biomechanic needs to be checked. What is your hand-to-floor measure? B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnims29 Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Brett, where have you been? We miss you here, and your swing tips. Hope all is well. Sorry to thread jack. :] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landshark Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 my wrist to floor is 33 inches. clubs are built off a 37.75 5 iron. yes, it is an odd feeling of the starting a lawn mower with the right hand/arm. i try the connection drill and nothing falls out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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