nicwyc Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Hi all, Just thought of sharing some informations from a pro golf player here in Aus and representative who sells Epon products in Aus. A friend of mine approached him and we discuss about AF101 driver and shaft options and here are his reply. NGS Superdelight SR Shaft; These shafts are made for the Japanese market only but the head of Epon is able to get them for us, (because the head of Epon uses it and so do I). They are very special shafts, and suited to smooth swingers up to around 100 MPH, they simply ad 20 to 40 metres to your driver shots. Why? This shaft is designed to give a massive kick at impact to accelerate the club through impact, this kick and the fibres used to make this shaft combined with the weight saving is what gives distance without loosing control. It is a very expensive shaft but if you are able to harness it you will have a smile from ear to ear and you will get addicted to your tee shots all over again. The simple benefit to the mid HCP golfer is 1: Distance, ease of hitting, control, and offcourse Distance. The main reason for this is that the 101 has a slightly higher centre of gravity, the SD shaft will get the ball a little higher and therefore it’s best to have the 9.5 loft with the 101 head, this way you get a piercing ball flight. According to him the shaft has a very specific characteristic which will only suit smooth golf swingers. Just sharing around. :) Hope that it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 I am using a 7061 Proto on a AF101 and another 7061 proto on a 460ZR. Just for fun, I am using a 5350 Proto on my Epon 380. Epon driver works just as well with Diamana White Board and the Kai'li. The stock shaft for Epon driver is the E line from NGS. The Delight line is relative new from NGS but certainly not the most expensive. You should take a look at the Drev line. NGS also added some models recently for more aggressive swinger and hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 The Delight line has very high torque, can you believe the Regular flex Delight (not superdelight) has 8.0* of torque! Definitely aimed at the smooth swinger. They are not expensive shafts though compared to other Japanese high end shafts. They retail for around 200 so street of around 160 or so... Even the Delight XZ in stiff and x-stiff have a torque of 5.9* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicwyc Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Thank you guys for the explanation. I couldn't find NGS website online so i don't really know the difference between the NGS Delight shaft and Superdelight shafts. According to the seller the shaft alone selling in Japan would be around AUS 800 (USD 550 approx). This shaft has specific requirement for clubhead not exceeding 145g (which AF101 clubhead is just 145g). He fitted the different shafts like diamana shafts and KBS shafts on the same clubhead but so far Superdelight gave the best result. He's going to send me a demo driver next week to have a few hits and see how i feel. Currently the driver is with Golf Digest Australia for review. (BTW i'm using Taylormade Tour Burner driver, which he describes the between 2 drivers as driving a Australian made Holden car with BMW M5 - both drivers work but obviously Epon AF101 performances is at another level.) Can't wait to see how true this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 What, A800 for a NGS shaft? That guy must be crazy. Has he heard of Internet trade or online commerce? What this about 145g for an AF101 head? I am totally confused now. My 101 and 460 head is around 200g. I think you are better off getting facts from our friend Gocchin here then your local expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Just re-read your last post and what is this KBS shaft? Are you talking about a steel shaft on the 101 head? I just dont see such a high torque shaft such as the delight on the 101. I would be all over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Thank you guys for the explanation. I couldn't find NGS website online so i don't really know the difference between the NGS Delight shaft and Superdelight shafts. According to the seller the shaft alone selling in Japan would be around AUS 800 (USD 550 approx). This shaft has specific requirement for clubhead not exceeding 145g (which AF101 clubhead is just 145g). He fitted the different shafts like diamana shafts and KBS shafts on the same clubhead but so far Superdelight gave the best result. He's going to send me a demo driver next week to have a few hits and see how i feel. Currently the driver is with Golf Digest Australia for review. (BTW i'm using Taylormade Tour Burner driver, which he describes the between 2 drivers as driving a Australian made Holden car with BMW M5 - both drivers work but obviously Epon AF101 performances is at another level.) Can't wait to see how true this is. The Super Delight goes street in Japan for around 200USD so I think the seller is overestimating. (^_^) The Super Delight is an ultra light 36g shaft. Available only in L flex and SR flex with torque around 6.7. The AF-101 head is spec'ed around 198g give or take 2g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicwyc Posted March 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 Thanks for the reply guys. Luckily i get the facts from you all first and thank you for the patience in replying. I do also think that the Aus seller is over-estimating the price of the shaft. However what shaft do you all think best match with AF101? (my driver swing speed is around 92-98mph. Either a straight shot or tendency to fade to right and I'm a smooth swinger). Thank you again guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 They are available through just about any NGS dealer in Japan including us. I can see how it could really help a player with a very slow tempo, slicing issues, or a slow swing speed but I do not think someone with a 100mph swing speed should be looking at this particular model. I would consider 6.7 torque a risky buy even in the low 90's. But doesn't it sound nice to have a smile from ear to ear and to get addicted to your tee shots all over again. We each have a setup that can provide this sensation it's just a matter of figuring out what it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 (edited) Just look at the spec for Delight and SuperDelight shafts by NGS and I think it is a ladies line or senior line. The flex value is so unusually low and torque unusually high even for Japanese men flex. The 50g+ NGS R would have a flex value of 10 to 11 kg and higher for heavier shafts. Even the Epon e 3042 stock R has a value of 9.3. Perhaps the SR in SuperDelight actually means Senior Retired and not Stiff Regular. Edited March 19, 2009 by Duffer19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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