Mjr. D Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) The dump where I live is starting to show signs of life........ kind of, so I figured i'd bundle up and hit the range and try out my new wedges. For the first half of the session, i was hitting the ball very well........ then disaster struck and it went to hell......... still trying to figure out why........ been fighting this the past two seasons. Anyway, I just wanted to give a big Shout out to none other than Epon. I know everyone pumps their tires on this forum but there's a reason for it: these wedges are absolutely stunning. The feel is the best i've ever experienced..... spin in extreme without being detrimental and the look of them is, at least to my eye, excellent. I've tried many wedges from Fourteen to Vokey to Cleveland to Yururi to Tourstage and Ping and so on...... even the X and Technity wedges from Epon. These feel like the X with the Technity spin. Best i've ever hit......... easily. Highly HIGHLY recommended. Now i have a question for you. Since i can't find the forum for swing talk i'll post it here. When my ball striking and therefore goes to hell, i notice a few things. I start to make a divot very far behind the ball, i hit the hosel....... even when my grip is extremely strong (not pressure but style)..... my ball just goes right and slices about 80 yards. When i'm doing it right, i'll hit the ball a little thin but dead straight, very high and long. Now....... what is going on? Any idea what causes a shank-like shot, a long divot that starts well before the ball and a slice? Please help me out! I can't deal with another year of this. Edited April 26, 2009 by Mjr. Diarrhea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blader-X Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 The dump where I live is starting to show signs of life........ kind of, so I figured i'd bundle up and hit the range and try out my new wedges. For the first half of the session, i was hitting the ball very well........ then disaster struck and it went to hell......... still trying to figure out why........ been fighting this the past two seasons. Anyway, I just wanted to give a big Shout out to none other than Epon. I know everyone pumps their tires on this forum but there's a reason for it: these wedges are absolutely stunning. The feel is the best i've ever experienced..... spin in extreme without being detrimental and the look of them is, at least to my eye, excellent. I've tried many wedges from Fourteen to Vokey to Cleveland to Yururi to Tourstage and Ping and so on...... even the X and Technity wedges from Epon. These feel like the X with the Technity spin. Best i've ever hit......... easily. Highly HIGHLY recommended. Now i have a question for you. Since i can't find the forum for swing talk i'll post it here. When my ball striking and therefore goes to hell, i notice a few things. I start to make a divot very far behind the ball, i hit the hosel....... even when my grip is extremely strong (not pressure but style)..... my ball just goes right and slices about 80 yards. When i'm doing it right, i'll hit the ball a little thin but dead straight, very high and long. Now....... what is going on? Any idea what causes a shank-like shot, a long divot that starts well before the ball and a slice? Please help me out! I can't deal with another year of this. Having just responded to your hand question in a previous post and now seeing this post, I would offer up my take on what's going wrong with your wedges. Hand position. Now mind you, I'm not able to see what you're doing but my guess is that you're starting with you hands too far foward. From this position once you swing back and start on the downswing, you will never hit the ball because your hands have started too far out in front in the first place. Your body knows this and now must compensate. The compensation is that you're probably also dropping down with your upper body so you can hit the ball. So two things will happen. If you drop down too soon, you'll hit behind the ball (fat) and since your hands already started too far foward, when you start coming through, they become foward even more and this opens the club face. Its virtually impossible to square up the face at this point. In terms of the shank-like shot, you're doing the same thing. Only difference is that the move down is more in sync, but because the hands are already too far ahead, you make compensations with the hands to square the club face and in essence by doing that you come across the line using the hands. And from this point its hosel-city sweetheart! I know what I speak of as I went through this very same ordeal years ago. The cause was that on those wedge shots I always had my hands way too far foward. The fix? Start with those hands in the mid-line of your body just as you would with any other club. Take your backswing and cock the wrists. Now, coming down just focus on using the shoulders to turn and try as you might not to release the club. What you want to feel is that because you're not releasing the club, you're going to miss the ball completely. This is how it "feels" in the beginning. Stick with it as it will take some good solid range sessions to get through. I would also suggest that when you start this, start with feet together, ball right on line between the feet, hands at the midline and start with small, smooth swings. Try to feel it first. Now I say smooth swings, not "slow" swings. The swings will be slow, but I don't like that term because to me, it gives one the sense of decelerating and that will kill any swing in golf. Think "smooth." One other thought. With the wedges, I really believe that many people are guilty of trying to set the club too soon. Think of your wedge when your messing around on the range as a driver. Swing it back low and smooth and take your time in setting the wrists. After you get the hang of it, especially the backswing part, you can begin to re-introduce a more aggressive down swing in the turn. Allow you hands then to release naturally by not even thinking about a release. I do hope this helps you. I'm sure there may be some differing opinions out there but I truly believe in what I've written above as I'm writing to you from experience. Good luck. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonlui Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 it sure sounds like you are coming too much from the inside which can cause a shank, thin, and fat hit. i fought this a lot last year and have since cured it, for now anyways. i'd suggest putting a box two inches from the ball at 12 oclock so that if you come from too much from the inside, you will hit the box. give it a try and let us know how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted April 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Awesome advice guys! I really appreciate it. Blader X.... you are one of the most selfless guys i've never met. Always looking to help. That's awesome man. Really appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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