supo Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 my clubbuilder swears blind by this driver ,its coming out in jan all black , that gold jonnie schacho mumbler is getting a face lift. new one looks much better. no idea who makes it yet that info will come next week ,but toppy whoa there 90K+ for the HEAD it gets.................................................... 15+ yards on everything............................................................................................................................................................................................................... thems fightin words if ever ive heard them. cant wait to have nudge at this puppy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 is this the one you are talking about http://www.ryomagolf.co.jp/d1/page10.html or its the old/current model ? another question would be if its legal or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbs Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 my clubbuilder swears blind by this driver ,its coming out in jan all black , that gold jonnie schacho mumbler is getting a face lift. new one looks much better. no idea who makes it yet that info will come next week ,but toppy whoa there 90K+ for the HEAD it gets.................................................... 15+ yards on everything............................................................................................................................................................................................................... thems fightin words if ever ive heard them. cant wait to have nudge at this puppy . Looks good mate. But i want to try the Baldo Driver first or Both? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted November 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 not sure if thats it , i was told its all black. i presume that means the face but i dont know fully yet i aint seen it in the flesh, next week i get a look at it. ill take snap of it , if they let me do that. 99% sure its not for me . but curiosity kills me i gotta have crack at it !!!!!! T was inspecting the baldo thing, seeing if they had gotten better in manufacturing. im not a manufacturing guru , certianly no ones better than T at that. hes the answer there. as for the ryoma., seriosuly 90K for ahead ? thats really pushing the envelope i mean really really really pushing that boat out............,15 yards how much is that worth? im a sceptic. but until its been struck ill reserve my judgement . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbs Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 not sure if thats it , i was told its all black. i presume that means the face but i dont know fully yet i aint seen it in the flesh, next week i get a look at it. ill take snap of it , if they let me do that. 99% sure its not for me . but curiosity kills me i gotta have crack at it !!!!!! T was inspecting the baldo thing, seeing if they had gotten better in manufacturing. im not a manufacturing guru , certianly no ones better than T at that. hes the answer there. as for the ryoma., seriosuly 90K for ahead ? thats really pushing the envelope i mean really really really pushing that boat out............,15 yards how much is that worth? im a sceptic. but until its been struck ill reserve my judgement . I saw in some ad the Ryoma driver is about 1200 USD with shaft, that's about baldo's price. you mean 90k yen or? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 yen for sure, the point he makes is that normally you would get something with a decent shaft for that not just head. I saw in some ad the Ryoma driver is about 1200 USD with shaft, that's about baldo's price. you mean 90k yen or? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted November 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I saw in some ad the Ryoma driver is about 1200 USD with shaft, that's about baldo's price. you mean 90k yen or? yea yen sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted December 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 yea yen sorry hmmmm got a peek at it today very very very nice looking stick .looks very well made lovely lines simple nothing flashy about it except for the gold emblem on the power tail. i had a small hit with it felt very good lots of thump at impact , not a super paper thin face. has some substance to it all in all looks a very good piece of engineering. small face pear shaped, very reminiscent at adress of the TM tp superquad form 08 looks like it got a small pronounced rounded convex face. need to take it out for a good session , but first impresions are very good. this wont be out till 2011 sometime. first impressions .....tasty. (sorry for poor piccys but only got hte phone to do it!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbs Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 hmmmm got a peek at it today very very very nice looking stick .looks very well made lovely lines simple nothing flashy about it except for the gold emblem on the power tail. i had a small hit with it felt very good lots of thump at impact , not a super paper thin face. has some substance to it all in all looks a very good piece of engineering. small face pear shaped, very reminiscent at adress of the TM tp superquad form 08 looks like it got a small pronounced rounded convex face. need to take it out for a good session , but first impresions are very good. this wont be out till 2011 sometime. first impressions .....tasty. (sorry for poor piccys but only got hte phone to do it!) Looks Yum2, is it true loft? can we custom it? Also 1 more question can we just by head only? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted December 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) Oh dear,at the range now, its awsome!!!!! Orderimg one tom. T have a look sir its terrific, bit more of an update after the session. took these drivers to the range last night. 2011 yamaha 9* tour diamana ahina 70s 2010 yamaha tour 10*- stinger 70x 2010 yamaha 9* tour tp7hd epon 101 quadra 75 xs 2010 tour stage 703 quadra 75s p-tune 9* stinger 60s 2011 ryoma d1 9.5 *- stinger 60s. hit a heap of balls like 220 ish, and a lot of drives in perfect conditions. and was hitting the ball really well. the ryoma was in some pretty darn good company here and although the balls final position lt couldnt be y assertained as the net only goes to 250 yards none the less where the ball hits on the net one can seee easily how it goes. the Ryoma was LONG..........., Miss**ts there was a distinct lack of ballooning and distance loss wasnt that bad ,toed quite a few and still got some really good results. it played at 46 inch bec my clubbuilder is over 60yrs old and the shaft , although wasnt 100% perfect spec wise its not totally unsuited i have another one and its just a little light thats all. , the face at address LOOKS is a litte closed i dont think it is , ill have to check that today, but it seemed to be compared to the others . my miss hits were pretty much all hooks which was totally opposite to the 2011 yamaha tour ahina set up which were all powder puff fades. , so this indicates it may be a tad closed o maybe square and the others are open , ill find out about specs today and options for customs. the shots i did hit were medium trajectory very straight for the main and looks like they got a ton of run out . the first 4 shots i middled 100% and nearly died, i havne felt anything like this that big bulbous power tail i could almost feel pushing the ball forward. stil ldont know if its legal( im presuing it is .) but i was stoked. then i got into my othe drivers , my thought at the end of the night is this belongs right in this elite company absoltley no doubt about it. ONLY thing i didnt like about it was hte face angles look at address looking closed. but the reuslts speak for them selves. its very very very good driver. my builder was gracious enough to lend me this which is worth yen 170, 000 in this set up. was it worth that??????????? compared to others ????? hmmmmmmmmmmmm., well i dont mind spending a bit of coin on a driver as u might be aware , but even i had to balk at this price it puts it in the most exxxy drivers on the market , with any set up i can think of. thats up to the individual to decied what something is worth. would i buy this for that price in my exact specs ......... ? above what else i have., dunno yet. im pondering it. i do know i have a crazy 80 that will look pretty incredible in this head tho...................................!, Edited December 3, 2010 by supo67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbs Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Oh dear,at the range now, its awsome!!!!! Orderimg one tom. T have a look sir its terrific Just curious how does that feel compared to AF151? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shacco Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 (edited) Oh dear,at the range now, its awsome!!!!! Orderimg one tom. T have a look sir its terrific, bit more of an update after the session. took these drivers to the range last night. 2011 yamaha 9* tour diamana ahina 70s 2010 yamaha tour 10*- stinger 70x 2010 yamaha 9* tour tp7hd epon 101 quadra 75 xs 2010 tour stage 703 quadra 75s p-tune 9* stinger 60s 2011 ryoma d1 9.5 *- stinger 60s. hit a heap of balls like 220 ish, and a lot of drives in perfect conditions. and was hitting the ball really well. the ryoma was in some pretty darn good company here and although the balls final position lt couldnt be y assertained as the net only goes to 250 yards none the less where the ball hits on the net one can seee easily how it goes. the Ryoma was LONG..........., Miss**ts there was a distinct lack of ballooning and distance loss wasnt that bad ,toed quite a few and still got some really good results. it played at 46 inch bec my clubbuilder is over 60yrs old and the shaft , although wasnt 100% perfect spec wise its not totally unsuited i have another one and its just a little light thats all. , the face at address LOOKS is a litte closed i dont think it is , ill have to check that today, but it seemed to be compared to the others . my miss hits were pretty much all hooks which was totally opposite to the 2011 yamaha tour ahina set up which were all powder puff fades. , so this indicates it may be a tad closed o maybe square and the others are open , ill find out about specs today and options for customs. the shots i did hit were medium trajectory very straight for the main and looks like they got a ton of run out . the first 4 shots i middled 100% and nearly died, i havne felt anything like this that big bulbous power tail i could almost feel pushing the ball forward. stil ldont know if its legal( im presuing it is .) but i was stoked. then i got into my othe drivers , my thought at the end of the night is this belongs right in this elite company absoltley no doubt about it. ONLY thing i didnt like about it was hte face angles look at address looking closed. but the reuslts speak for them selves. its very very very good driver. my builder was gracious enough to lend me this which is worth yen 170, 000 in this set up. was it worth that??????????? compared to others ????? hmmmmmmmmmmmm., well i dont mind spending a bit of coin on a driver as u might be aware , but even i had to balk at this price it puts it in the most exxxy drivers on the market , with any set up i can think of. thats up to the individual to decied what something is worth. would i buy this for that price in my exact specs ......... ? above what else i have., dunno yet. im pondering it. i do know i have a crazy 80 that will look pretty incredible in this head tho...................................!, I really should stop read reading your reviews, S. It always leaves me wanting this and that. Oh boy. I think I saw the other day a shaft video review from Golf Digest Japan for the GD DI-6. If I'm not mistaken, the shaft was in a ryoma driver head. But not the all black one. Have a look: http://www.golfdigest.co.jp/golftv/gear/itouryoudan/shaft/101201_01.asp Edited December 3, 2010 by shacco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 I know the Ryoma driver well and it's quite renowned for its distance performance. However, I have to admit I am not a fan of its design. I spoke recently to Baldo and got their prices... yes very high and woods all made in china. We will stay away for now. I'll go test a Ryoma and see... but ugh.... that D-1 on the sole.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shacco Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 I know the Ryoma driver well and it's quite renowned for its distance performance. However, I have to admit I am not a fan of its design. I spoke recently to Baldo and got their prices... yes very high and woods all made in china. We will stay away for now. I'll go test a Ryoma and see... but ugh.... that D-1 on the sole.... Agreed. I'm not keen on the design either. Also the face shape isn't my favorite either. But if it performs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 I checked back in some of my most respected golf magazines including the very hardcore Choice and the Ryoma is very highly praised for distance performance. So I decided to contact Ryoma Golf and get more info and some pricing. I'm putting together a blog post now to talk about the driver and its technologies and concept. Look for it soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shacco Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 I checked back in some of my most respected golf magazines including the very hardcore Choice and the Ryoma is very highly praised for distance performance. So I decided to contact Ryoma Golf and get more info and some pricing. I'm putting together a blog post now to talk about the driver and its technologies and concept. Look for it soon. Just checked out their website. Although I do not speak any Japanese, I think I understood that the angle of gravity is a stunning 39°. That would explain why all of S. misses were hooks, wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 angle of gravity ?! that doesnt make any sense to me. probably lost in translation. Just checked out their website. Although I do not speak any Japanese, I think I understood that the angle of gravity is a stunning 39°. That would explain why all of S. misses were hooks, wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 He's actually correct, it is a measurement used by most Japanese golf brands, gravity angle. This is the angle from the point at which the head rotates to square. The larger the angle the faster the head theoretically rotates. I'm about to post up my blog post, I tried to translate the important parts... (^_^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 i still dont get it. here is what i know : the lower the moi of the head in relation to hosel the more it will tend to close and vice versa. so what does that angle measure in relation to that ? He's actually correct, it is a measurement used by most Japanese golf brands, gravity angle. This is the angle from the point at which the head rotates to square. The larger the angle the faster the head theoretically rotates. I'm about to post up my blog post, I tried to translate the important parts... (^_^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Hi ant, it's not MOI but the CG position in relation to the shaft. The larger the gravity angle the more draw biased it is and the smaller it is the more fade biased it is. On english sites its not a concept thats discussed often surprisingly though PRGR and Honma use it all the time. I did find one site that briefly describes it here: http://www.purelygolf.com/E/CG.htm I have a bunch of data on the g angle of many of todays models including images I can dig up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 cg placement is what affects moi in relation to hosel. thanx for the link i think i understand what they mean now. they draw two lines : one along the face and the other one from the hosel center thru cg placement point then measure the angle between the two and call it "gravity angle". i guess they need some sort of reference there. then came marketing and made it into "the bigger the better" marketing number as it always happens ;) Hi ant, it's not MOI but the CG position in relation to the shaft. The larger the gravity angle the more draw biased it is and the smaller it is the more fade biased it is. On english sites its not a concept thats discussed often surprisingly though PRGR and Honma use it all the time. I did find one site that briefly describes it here: http://www.purelygolf.com/E/CG.htm I have a bunch of data on the g angle of many of todays models including images I can dig up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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