PhuketBlue Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) I know RC are more known for fairways and hybrids but has anyone any experience of their VS tour irons and hybrids? I've looked around and can't see much info out there. Thanks in advance. Edited May 2, 2011 by PhuketBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 im waiting for reviews on the hybrid before i pull the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnguy1 Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I know RC are more known for fairways and hybrids but has anyone any experience of their VS tour irons and hybrids? I've looked around and can't see much info out there. Thanks in advance. I'm the rare person who has not been a fan of RC woods. The VS tour irons on the other hand are very nice irons. They have a very soft + "meaty" feel to them similar to the Yamaha Tour V, and I prefer them over the Yamaha. I believe they are Endo forged. This combination of soft + meaty is hard to achieve and I think only an Endo forged iron can do it, but not all Endo forged irons have it. You can do a search in the GTI blog. Gocchin wrote a very good review of these irons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Review on the irons is here: http://www.golftoimpress.com/royal-collection-bbds-tour-vs-forged-iron-review/ As for the TRC utility, I've gamed it for 2 years, original model and new model. I prefer them over every other utility and I've tried them all. The Tour VS had no hybird but at that time they did release a BBD's driving iron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 VS Tour irons are extremely underrated! They feel good, forgiving, just an all around fantastic design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuketBlue Posted May 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Thanks for the replies. I'm sold on the irons and wedges but unsure if I have the swing speed (currently around 100 MPH I would guess) for the low launch, low spin driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Thanks for the replies. I'm sold on the irons and wedges but unsure if I have the swing speed (currently around 100 MPH I would guess) for the low launch, low spin driver. I would recommend quite a few other drivers before suggesting RC for the big dog. Are you trying to create an RC only bag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnguy1 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I would recommend quite a few other drivers before suggesting RC for the big dog. Are you trying to create an RC only bag? They have to fix the sound on the RC driver. Otherwise, it's really not a bad driver at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 the sound of VS Tour driver is fantastic, you just have to hit it on the screws to get that sound. catching it even slightly off center totally different story. i had folks coming over at the range and asking what kinda driver i was hitting impressed by the sound it makes, it just sounds so solid. even my wife who doest really care about golf equipment and plays off the shelf clubs commented on how nice the sound was comparing to anything else i had. of course fantastic/nice/etc are all subjective. the sound it makes is nothing like all those high pitching ear tearing tin cans you hear that makes you want to take that driver and smack the guy on the head with it after he hits a few standing close to you. its kinda more similar to old school tour level driver sound with hotmelt or something like that. anyways, to me aint nothing to fix there with its sound, its perfect. never tried their previous driver models so cant comment on them. They have to fix the sound on the RC driver. Otherwise, it's really not a bad driver at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 i wouldnt worry so much about swing speed but instead how well and consistent you can hit it on the sweetspot. VS Tour is not exactly a very forgiving driver and any mis**ts would be severely punished, mostly by severe distance loss and also by direction if its bad enough mis**t. slight mis**ts tend to stay where supposed with slight deviation and distance loss, not critical, you'd still be in the fairway just shorter. its definitely low spin, low launch i dont think so would probably depend alot on the shaft you go with. you can hit stingers, risers, big high balls with very little roll, snap hook it or whatever, very workable head. Thanks for the replies. I'm sold on the irons and wedges but unsure if I have the swing speed (currently around 100 MPH I would guess) for the low launch, low spin driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swing981 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 after what Sonartec did in the usa market i wouldn't touch this company again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Rumor is that RC is coming back to the U.S under a different name and product in 2012 with some really bad product. There was a bit of a battle within and the bad guy's won. Stick with RC Japan product and your safe. You guy's see the new blades in the proshop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnguy1 Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 the sound of VS Tour driver is fantastic, you just have to hit it on the screws to get that sound. catching it even slightly off center totally different story. i had folks coming over at the range and asking what kinda driver i was hitting impressed by the sound it makes, it just sounds so solid. even my wife who doest really care about golf equipment and plays off the shelf clubs commented on how nice the sound was comparing to anything else i had. of course fantastic/nice/etc are all subjective. the sound it makes is nothing like all those high pitching ear tearing tin cans you hear that makes you want to take that driver and smack the guy on the head with it after he hits a few standing close to you. its kinda more similar to old school tour level driver sound with hotmelt or something like that. anyways, to me aint nothing to fix there with its sound, its perfect. never tried their previous driver models so cant comment on them. I must not have hit it on the screw. It's not an irritating sound for sure, but it was sounding hollow for me. Sound is quite subjective. Other than that, I thought it was a solid driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 i thought they already did with http://www.royalcollectionusa.com there was a thread at WRX people saying they sell thru clubfitters in US. looks like the same product across the line except they added some JP series that RC Japan doesnt have but i honestly dunno what those are and if the rest is the same as their JDM versions or not. i bought from you guys, thanx again Tario!, so not worried but would be interested to hear whats the word regarding their US versions anyways. Rumor is that RC is coming back to the U.S under a different name and product in 2012 with some really bad product. There was a bit of a battle within and the bad guy's won. Stick with RC Japan product and your safe. You guy's see the new blades in the proshop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 btw, them blades looks great but looks like iteration of their previous blade. their VS Tour CBs are probably the best looking CBs out there tho. You guy's see the new blades in the proshop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 there is a video from Golf Digest Japan TSG posted on the blog http://www.golfdigest.co.jp/golftv/gear/itouryoudan/driver/101006_01.asp folks who interested can hear the sound there but its obviously not as loud and pronounced as in person so kinda hard to convey i guess. i agree its subjective tho and the other thing is i never hit any Epons, Yamahas, Ryomas etc and my experience is limited to off the shelf clubs, odd component heads and occasional tour van heads but not JDM stuff so keep that in mind. this one i like alot. feel is great too. probably the only negatives i can think of is hitting it off the deck just wont work, probably due to its deep face construction and the other thing is they ship it with this pos Iomic X grip or whatever its called which is like soap, kinda works ok with gloves but totally useless bare handed and it wears faster than tyres on gymkhana with very similar end results but its a minor annoyance really. other than that simply great product. I must not have hit it on the screw. It's not an irritating sound for sure, but it was sounding hollow for me. Sound is quite subjective. Other than that, I thought it was a solid driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 after what Sonartec did in the usa market i wouldn't touch this company again... Keep in mind Sonartec and Royal Collection are two completely different companies. Sonartec was a US company. Sonartec "borrowed" RC's fairway wood and utility designs only several years after they were released in Japan ie the 2-3 year delay. RC had nothing to do with any of their other products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnguy1 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 btw, them blades looks great but looks like iteration of their previous blade. their VS Tour CBs are probably the best looking CBs out there tho. Smallest blades ive ever seen, this and miura baby blades. too intimidated to even try to hit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blader-X Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 after what Sonartec did in the usa market i wouldn't touch this company again... Rumor is that RC is coming back to the U.S under a different name and product in 2012 with some really bad product. There was a bit of a battle within and the bad guy's won. Stick with RC Japan product and your safe. You guy's see the new blades in the proshop? Keep in mind Sonartec and Royal Collection are two completely different companies. Sonartec was a US company. Sonartec "borrowed" RC's fairway wood and utility designs only several years after they were released in Japan ie the 2-3 year delay. RC had nothing to do with any of their other products. So true. I was a big Sonartec guy back in its heyday. Had quite a few different clubs. They licensed the design concept from Royal Collection but those two companies had always been separate. The problem at Sonartec was due to greed and deception. Sonartec soon became defunct and a very good product went the way of the dinosaurs which was really quite sad. At the time it reminded me a little of the problems which occurred shortly before that time with Gauge Design. Stick with Royal Collection and I don't believe you can go wrong. I'm now bagging three clubs from them and they are all simply fantastic. Excellent feel, excellent trajectories from the wedge, the utility and 3wood I'm bagging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 i thought they already did with http://www.royalcollectionusa.com there was a thread at WRX people saying they sell thru clubfitters in US. looks like the same product across the line except they added some JP series that RC Japan doesnt have but i honestly dunno what those are and if the rest is the same as their JDM versions or not. i bought from you guys, thanx again Tario!, so not worried but would be interested to hear whats the word regarding their US versions anyways. The hybrid looks exactly like the one from japan. Both have the twin rail feature and look Identical with the exception of the stronger lofts. Approx 1-2* strong for the usdm hybrid. Can anyone confirm? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 It's the JP series that my contacts in Japan are saying stay away from. The rest is the same product as Japan BUT notice the pics are small and don't show the TRC's saying the JP name on it. It's because they don't exist yet supposedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 wow, didnt realize that, kinda not so obvious from those pictures even tho descriptions says compact. if you did hit them how did they feel to you comparing to Miura ? Smallest blades ive ever seen, this and miura baby blades. too intimidated to even try to hit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 why would RC involve themselves with that anyways ?! i mean majority of people dont know them, they have no Tour presence or staff over there to ride big name equipment contact and something tells me have no dough to get one in the first place. if they start making off the shelf crap whos gonna buy it ? i'm sure they got some marketing story figured out if they are doing it but doesnt make much sense to put their name on that. It's the JP series that my contacts in Japan are saying stay away from. The rest is the same product as Japan BUT notice the pics are small and don't show the TRC's saying the JP name on it. It's because they don't exist yet supposedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnguy1 Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 wow, didnt realize that, kinda not so obvious from those pictures even tho descriptions says compact. if you did hit them how did they feel to you comparing to Miura ? Held it in hand but did not bother hitting it. looking at it i knew i cant hit it. Anyhow too many blades sitting in my garage that i cant hit so i didnt want to be tempted. They sure look pure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Royal Collection USA's releases are part current and part past Japanese models. I just looked at their site (for the first time I might add) and these are my observations: JP104 driver is the 2009 RC 104F driver. JP104 FW is the 2009 RC 304F FW. JP104 FH is in fact the 2009 TRC Utility. JP104 Hybrid is a tweaked cross between the 2004 Td and 2006 Td+ The wedges are last years Dual Bite The irons are current. So all the woods and wedges are older models save the JP104 Hybrid which is revised old design it seems. The irons are still offered by RC Japan. Tour VS driver and FW are also current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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