supo Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 I spent the afternoon yesterday at the crazy factory in Adachi ku . i got my new cray 460 head at 197 gram ,and thought rather than put one of combos together , ill take it to the source and see what they say. well i hit everything they had. and the best was the 435 head. , the clubbuilder from Taylor made was in the shop doing some work , and if i got a new shaft they said theyd get him to make my club for,, well they didnt need to ask twice.....! i tried al the differnt shafts, 50s 80s noir sigma, black, u name it i hit it. the money ended up on the new 50 sigma, which has a weight of 83 grams...........! i was speechless. ithought he was mad ,here ive been hitting shafts at 65 grams yadda yadda and the launch monitor clearly stated my best performing shaft was the uber heavy sigma. my average drive was 273 yards, back spin at 225o , side spin at virtually nothing. this was with the 435 head. a head speed at 47.1 m/ps i told them i already had the crazy 80 noir and it was a fantaitc shaft in the ryoma, but the numbers on this LM were saying totally contrary. the differnece i n spin on the heads were the 450 george takei is the lowest spin, the 435 the 2nd , the 425 the 3rd and the 460 the highest. after hitting today, id say for certian that was spot on, today the 460 launched mid lanch with plenty of carry, but it looked like it rolled out a bit as well, the feel is better than all of them the face is huge and square, looks like is i made for smashing the living daylights out of, after one big session today im liking the a lot, its made totally for smashing ,theres no, i mean absolutely no half swings or checked drives, tis full tilt or its an uber slice. i was hititng the ball reayy wel ltoday as wll ,and against the ryoma and yonex , well it was plsnty longer then the yonex ,and i think it was longer then the ryoma, its certianly a LOT more solid at impact , and can swing harder for sure, i learned the ryoma plays best when just smoothed and centered, this thing tho likes to be bullied. not sure if ill play this on a really tight drinving course , but at a cpl of longer tracjks ,i think itll be superb. its certianly super electic, nothing like the epon 102 , more like the onoff with 20 grams behind it, the 460 is a bloody great looking head...........! i love it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eca Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Hey Stew, After seeing your drives on some videos, 65grammers are definitely way too light! Can you post another Driver battle featuring this, the ryoma and 102 specifically? Which combo would you take as an all rounder on an important comp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted May 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 recently ive been reverting to the ryoma, i used that yeterday in the match after ranging for an hour beforehand. and i had the yonex and this crazy at hand, in 100% perfect conditions. but , that was beceause i knew this club perfectly and i was palying the lads for a some decent coin, and i didnt want to go in with a brand new untried stick after the match we hit fr another hour on the range. and i hit the yonex and the crazy exclusively. the yonex really surprised me it was a lot better than i first thought, the heads just solid ,with no feel , just does its job well. and is really versatile, super easy to move about a smll amount. iinitially strugggled with the crazy with slices. my bud culdnt hit it at all was way to heavy for him. overall distance was hard to guage bec the dr range only goes to 260 yards. but of al lthe drivers the crazy looked the longest, the best thing about it was how solid it felt at impact. the extra weight most cetianly makes a huge differnce to control at impact, i got my hands turning over nivcely and th ball didnt deviate an inch form its path. its hard to say id use another driver in a match of substance at the monet, bec the ryoma is just so incredibly relaiable. the mis**ts just go to the left, not left arcing. my fiarways ht yesteday were 10 of 14, and 2 went thru the fairway, i topped one that still went 240 and sliced one that ended in a bunker that i pared any how, with the knowledge that thats a bad shot, how can i replace it? the distance on the the ryoma tho ist what i thought it would be.. my clubbuilder thinks i shud put the stinger back in it. and i might listen ,beceasue this was hte set up i first discoverd this driver with , and i was stoked beyond belief . but its ohhhhhhhhhh so hard to mess with it if it aint broke,,,,,,,,,,, DONT fix it......! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eca Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Surprised that despite the hardcore data and testing with the crazy 460/sigma that it didnt have an immediate results outdoors. I'm still gathering info around as to what is going to go into the ryoma. The Q FEx 65SX i got from you is starting to really fire but i like also what im hearing from C re proto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swing981 Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Thanks for the review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 I've recommended the Sigma to many players but it seems they always want to go lighter and lighter. In fact the Sigma produces Crazy's most penetrating trajectory of all their models (a lot in part due to weight of course as well). I thought you put the 787 in the Crazy 460 Stew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted May 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 i was going to , but the yonex arrived nad this shaft i ad so i couldnt wait i was itching to hit the 787 so i shafted it up with the yonex. the crazy fellas kinda made me an ofer i couldnt refuse! a new shaft (which i really didnt need , )but u know how it is , if ur in there and chatting away i just thought this might be the best combo, get them to make me the best club possible. which i think they have done as good as they can. the 787 will be used in my jbeam 435. after listening to ,thier recomendations. i think this will be a gruesome combo, gruesome! that shaft is fast becomng one of my favourites. IF i can get down to just one of each shaft in my preferd head i might die happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naka8899 Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Thanks Stew, I just ordered the Crazy silver ion plated no paint fill 460 head 10° with tj 46 Noir 6.7 flex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted May 19, 2011 Report Share Posted May 19, 2011 I've recommended the Sigma to many players but it seems they always want to go lighter and lighter. In fact the Sigma produces Crazy's most penetrating trajectory of all their models (a lot in part due to weight of course as well). I thought you put the 787 in the Crazy 460 Stew? is there a lighter sigma? what are their weight offerings, id like to try one out but not the one stew is playing. with 286 cpm, my back hurts just thinking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted May 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2011 gamed thsi sucker today, windy as hell. very tingy sound at impact. high pitch, like the on offs but a bit more solid. face frames the ball beautifully big and dead sqaure, saying smash the cover of me its a high spin head, at 9.5* the ball was launching mid BUT there was no aeroplane take off trajectory. was driving pretty well, the ones i turned over went a country mile. with little roll out. the ball held tis line in the wind very very well. the misses were a small block right but there was no slice. just a block, only mised a cpl of fairways and not by much. with the wind the ball was going very long and very straight. into it was a bit high for my likiing but bec of the shaft weight the ball gets a real good thump and the head doesnt want to contort seems like the shaft brings the head into square position very fast. had no problems, in really difficult conditions. itsa a straight to small draw biased shaft. which suits me prefectly. i think i prefer the lower spin heads, but on days when all carry is needed like rainy days this is i a beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted May 23, 2011 Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 Hmmm the head must launch higher then as your heavier Sigma is a lower launching shaft and is made to produce a strong trajectory. I wonder how that Sigma would do in the ryoma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted May 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2011 (edited) funny u should mention that........................, i took a heap of drivers out last night and sat looking at them pondering the best set ups, like al lthe shafts and all the heads. not looking for anything else. but i got the feeling looking at them all that the best set up stil awaits. im au fait with all the palying characterisitics with all of these , so getting the best set up is next step. jbeam 435 10* 0.2 jbeam 425 tour 10.5* 0.5 ryoma v spec d1 9.5* crazy 460 9.5* epon 102 8.5* 0.5 p-tune 9* s yamaha tour 9* shafts diamana stinger prototype 70x (x2) crazy tj 46 7.7 crazy 50 sigma crazy black80 noir 7.7 qaudra FEX 75 xs quadra proto 75 XS the sigma and ryoma i think would be just incredible, bec of that power tail ,adn the storng punch of the 83 gram shaft , and being draw biased , wow! LOW laucnh, super strong, and plenty of roll out. its either this combo or the stinger 70 x in it, make it just a bit more wokable. play this at 45 inch the stinger will be slightly higher and ive hit this before so thast the set up im thinking. the crazy 435 il loose the tj 46 bec its a bit light and put the sigma in it 45 inch of muscle power. exacty like the crazy factory guys said i shoud do. the epon 102 is withthe quadra proto, thast never changing the yamaha i was thinking of putting a stinger in. takig abit of that anti left bias out of it. getting it straighter. that yammy has the best feel of all heds here. the crazy 425 tour and craay 80 not touching either. the p-tune and quadra fex at 44.75 inch will be a super fairway finder , not overly long ,but really sttraigh ,esp with the weights balanced to draw bias. be great for links in oz. leaves the crazy 460 head.................. and i thnk crazy and crazy shud be a match so the rogue 'viscios horse" crazy black 80 ls (20) might find a home here. and keepng the yonex and bangvoo together for a while longer Edited May 23, 2011 by supo67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 (edited) Hey Stew, After seeing your drives on some videos, 65grammers are definitely way too light! Can you post another Driver battle featuring this, the ryoma and 102 specifically? Which combo would you take as an all rounder on an important comp? this might be of help to you. i had the epon 102 and quadra proto 75xs at the game sat. but i chose to hit the yonex bec i hadnt palyed it in a match properly , and this course on sat was perfect for it , very rainy , so no roll what so ever. , i was planning on using the epon, but went the crazy agn bec its higher carrry ,than the epon. i LIKE the epon proto better. maybe the best of all my divers, fele is perfec,t weight perfect, dispersion tight without being laser-like. can move it a bit ,not much but ifi ned to hit low cut , i can do it. and as much as anything it looks fricken cool....! . the crazy i must swing form my bootstraps or it doent work well, can not just hit a 230 yarder ,iits too heavy to do that too.. but i never hook this club, not even close so i can aim left pretty confidently which makes a very nice change. length i think the epon is bigger prob bec i get more roll out. but at the moent in these conditions theres not roll. so cant really say that till i get dry cons. the crazy feels a little thin and a heavy shaft deosn do it justice, im sure with the epon shape being more rounded and full this crazy sigma will be just unbleieveable. same as the jbeam 435. or the yamaha tour whoa boy ,now THATS a thought.......! but after thinking about it all weekened. the jbeam 435 is getting the sigma shaft. the 460 is getting the black 80 ls 2 he 102 quadra isnt getting touched at all. and the yamaha tour 9* is getting a bangvoo the yonex is getting a quadra fex at 44.5 inch. its all about maximising the components. i think over all the epon 102 quadra is the more suited club for me out of this and the crazy the crazy just needs re jigging a bit to be great, i gotta make full use of the higher spin head some how bec the shape ofthis head is my fav.........! T what are your thoughts crayz 460 bangoo maybe?? Edited May 30, 2011 by supo67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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