Spoon Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 i started looking for a used set of 52/56 non protos about a month ago as back up to my kenmochi 52/58 and also to satisfy my curiosity. well i got more than i bargained for as i recently got lucky and found a set of like new DB protos. i got it at a very, very, very good deal. i think these more than redeem my bad luck on missing out on that 56 RC in the demo sale. here are pics from the seller, i should receive them by next week. now just wanted to ask, who else gaming these bad boys? what is the difference between this and the 52/58 non protos? also is this a raw type of head? i cant tel from the pics but if i would guess it looks raw. its currently shafted with s200 but will most likely pull and install my trusty dg spinners. i usually use a 52/58. i can also go 52 58 bent to 60 but will need another 56 to complete the set. will have updates when i have had a chance to game these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nudgeegolf Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 well done, very jealous. let me know if they don't work for you :-) btw also would love to hear from people that have used these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eca Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I saw that on your sig.. I thought you snagged the 56 from the sale :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I saw that on your sig.. I thought you snagged the 56 from the sale :) Nope, told you I did not get it:) so I got these instead. These are conforming though so I hope i don't get disappointed With the spin. The mochis were real spin mesiters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 These still spin well thanks the milled faces. The protos are raw so you will have to maintain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) These still spin well thanks the milled faces. The protos are raw so you will have to maintain. Thanks T. I will probably maintain for 1 week then forget about it. My kenmochis were raw, had a black ox coating that has worn off completely Now they are exposed with some rust spots but doesnt bother me. These though Will be hard to neglect. What's the diff between this and the regular 52 and 58? Edited July 6, 2011 by Spoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanaa Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 i started looking for a used set of 52/56 non protos about a month ago as back up to my kenmochi 52/58 and also to satisfy my curiosity. well i got more than i bargained for as i recently got lucky and found a set of like new DB protos. i got it at a very, very, very good deal. i think these more than redeem my bad luck on missing out on that 56 RC in the demo sale. here are pics from the seller, i should receive them by next week. now just wanted to ask, who else gaming these bad boys? what is the difference between this and the 52/58 non protos? also is this a raw type of head? i cant tel from the pics but if i would guess it looks raw. its currently shafted with s200 but will most likely pull and install my trusty dg spinners. i usually use a 52/58. i can also go 52 58 bent to 60 but will need another 56 to complete the set. will have updates when i have had a chance to game these. These look raw & beaut. What do the cavity / wgt at the back do ? I pla the kenmochi 52/ 60, not the easy off tight lies or wet sand but great off the rough. Like yours, rusty and spins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 The dent back is supposedly to lower the trajectory and flight the ball lower. Also the laser milled grooves should increase spin. I will verify The kenmochisnarebthe easiestbwedges. Playable from any lie, easy to open adnset up for a green side flop shot. Hope these Are comparable at the very least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) got my wedges today, i have never been this excited about a golf club in a long long time. they look very very good most especially the laser milled grooves, the look on address in pics dont do the club justice. i am still not used to the dent back cavity but im sure it serves a purpose the metal looks greyish, almost like titanium or adamantium:) will take these for a spin tomorrow. not sure if i will leave the stock s200 shafts or reshaft with my DG spinners. here are a few pics Edited July 15, 2011 by Spoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 So C, how are they? (^_^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 AWESOME!! A+ Shape A+ Grind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 So C, how are they? (^_^) i dont know what was done when they assembled it but specs were only d2 but man did they feel heavy. and the s200s felt awful. as in brittle harsh. i have never used s200s so i wanted to test them. i use tour issue s400s and dg spinners, the dg spinners on the kenmochis feel buttery . with the stock shafts the heads felt rather crisp in a bad way. almost felt like a cast club. BUT, i attribute this to the shaft, its a known fact that the s200s dont feel as good as the s300s and s400s. i already re shafted with the spinners to my specs so i can give a better review this week. fyi, i left them with the fitter last saturday. the clubs were dry and cleaned after my round, sunday eve there was some rust spot on face and cavity. i guess the air here is very humid. no worries though as its a raw wedge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Yeah its the same here in Japan, just leaving any of my raw wedges sitting around, rust spots will form due to humidity. Let us know how they go. Should be nice with the Spinners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Breathed new life into the wedges by changing shaft to The spinners, they feel the same as my old wedges with the Exception of spin. They have significantly lessmspin compared To any of the non conforming wedges I have owned. Forgiven though But I have to adjust my game and play short on pin approaches as I don't Generally produce crazy spin of my wedges. Time to practice on my release And technique. Wedges pretty versatile though. Have around 3 rounds w em And will give my full review after my round Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 We have been testing the DB forged for almost 2 months now. It's an outstanding wedge no doubt in the top 5 of whats available in japan right now. Could be top 3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 We have been testing the DB forged for almost 2 months now. It's an outstanding wedge no doubt in the top 5 of whats available in japan right now. Could be top 3... that looks very very clean, unlike my raw protos that look very used:( pretty excited for the results of your shootout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Yes the standard models are either plated or the black finish like the ones I have and reviewed on the blog a few months ago. How are the raws holding up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Yes the standard models are either plated or the black finish like the ones I have and reviewed on the blog a few months ago. How are the raws holding up? they look alright, have forgotten about the oxidation. after a week you just tend to accept and forget. no worse than my kenmochis. these have significanly reduced my spin, especially on my quarter and half shots. making a big adjustment. these would be perfect if they were non conforming. oh well not complaining, just have to work more on my technique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+TourSpecGolfer Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 The pics I just posted are of a DB forged with at least 200 shots hit. The finish indeed held up very well, I like brushed satin as it hides scratches easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 The pics I just posted are of a DB forged with at least 200 shots hit. The finish indeed held up very well, I like brushed satin as it hides scratches easily. Damn! Spotless they area! Mine have hit under100 andvthey look vintage already. I thinkmi willmhaveto snag that none off you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 i think i will bump this thread, there have been many wedge posts as of late and i think this will help a lot of those thinking of what wedge to get. so after 4 months of heavy use, and many moments of pondering what other wedges to get, i still have these in the bag and are not endanger of being booted out any time soon, most likely never. why i like these: 1. Beautiful compact head shape 2. A1 versatile grind, easily opens up 3. Laser milled grooves for more spin 4. Beautiful adamantium esque raw finish. 5. Lower trajectory (Dent back) 6. crazy spin even for a conforming model 7. Prototype limited edition. what could be improved: 1. a 3 set combo instead of two with a 56 13 bounce and a 59/60 with 6/7* bounce other than that it really is the perfect wedge. RC has nailed it with this one! i have bent my 52 to a 50 to close the gap between my pw which is around 46*. i was originally using DG SPinners on these for about two months, these were the months when i was undecided and 50/50 on the wedge. the spinners had spin but being softer were the poor choice for full shots( which i use with my 52 alot) having put shimada blacks 120 has breathed new life into them. they are a different wedge altogether, crazy spin and lower flight that checks the ball! i dont think these are the spinniest wedges nor the most user friendly but they serve my purposed just fine. the sole grind makes it easier to blast out of thick 3 inch rough and the 58 is the most used club around the greens and bunker. i just wish it had less bounce. as i play these 50/58 i am using a 56deg scratch bent to 54 to fill in the gap. a RC DB 56 non proto would fit the bill nicely. i will take pics of my wedges sometime this week. most of the slight rusting is in the DB cavity, honestly i dont mind it anymore. hardest part is the first rust spot, after that you soon forget. and only 500 sets guys, grab em while you can. 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Long sold out... months ago! Reasons why they went with a 2 wedge set instead of your suggested 3, a 2 wedge set for most average golfers if far more common especially 52/58. 3 Wedge set... harder to sell. Cost, a 3 wedge set is more expensive harder to sell. I promoted these wedges long ago and if I remember correctly suggested them to you (^_^) but they simply weren't as popular as expected probably due to their higher cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) Long sold out... months ago! Reasons why they went with a 2 wedge set instead of your suggested 3, a 2 wedge set for most average golfers if far more common especially 52/58. 3 Wedge set... harder to sell. Cost, a 3 wedge set is more expensive harder to sell. I promoted these wedges long ago and if I remember correctly suggested them to you (^_^) but they simply weren't as popular as expected probably due to their higher cost. yup i listened and took your advice:) have not regretted the decision one bit. now i need to get a 56 in the regular db model! The prototypes are still available if you know where to look. they are still available in some online shops, so if any of you guys can get em, go get em! you will not be sorry and if you dont like it, i will personally buy it from you. Here are pics of the wedges as of this morning. still looking mean! took photos of the shimada black wedge shafts along with the normal tour 120, they look identical except for the slight smoke tint. Edited November 2, 2011 by Spoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 The standard model is of course still available. You should tell them to buy them from us. (^_^) We can still get any loft. I was talking about the prototypes. Those are the ones sold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 The standard model is of course still available. You should tell them to buy them from us. (^_^) We can still get any loft. I was talking about the prototypes. Those are the ones sold out. Sorry for the confusion T. I meant the protos are still available in some online shops and I eBay. Of course the regular model is still available in tsg Proshop:) and you guys should get em here, theyr Very very worth it. Thanks T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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