Exhaloprez Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I really need some sage advice. I have been playing and testing Callaway Razr X MB irons with the 5.0 Flighted Project X steel shaft and OnOff Forged irons with Nipon NS Pro 850 GH regular steel shafts. I am a mid-handicapper with a quick non-smooth swing (I am working on tempo and balance). I hit each club (7i vs 7i about as well as the other with a little more distance with the Callaways. Am i comparing apples to oranges?. Either one better for me? I actually play well with each even though one may expect my handicap to be too high for either. Other insights? Thanks for your input, I really appreciate hearing from others who may be more objective than I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnguy1 Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Seems like 2 very different sets spec wise. mb less forgiving, px heavier and lower launch i would notice a difference btw these 2 sets that said, if you play both well, choose what suits the eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMCMB Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I don't really understand what your actually asking... you own both sets already? You hit them both well? Then play whichever you feel like playing on any given day, or rotate them depending on the course or conditions your playing... It really doesn't matter what any of us think if you hit them both well and enjoy gaming them. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exhaloprez Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I own both sets. Originally I thought that MB's would be my practice set b/c they would be less forgiving and the OnOff my gaming set b/c of the cavity back forgiveness. What has thrown me for a loop is that both are about equal in forgiveness. Secondly, the Callaways are lighter probably b/c the club head is light. When struck well the feeling on the Callaways is pure soft butter and on the OnOff's almost but not quite the same softness. Just inquiring as to how the different heads and/or shafts might benefit or hurt a non-smooth swinger with a fast tempo? To the eye, they are both very pleasing. I really do not want to keep switching my gaming irons since the difference in specs are going to delay my comfort with one over the other. The golf pro at my club likes the PX shafts over the Nippon but likes the weighting in the OnOff club head. He admits that I hit both equally well currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamnguy1 Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I own both sets. Originally I thought that MB's would be my practice set b/c they would be less forgiving and the OnOff my gaming set b/c of the cavity back forgiveness. What has thrown me for a loop is that both are about equal in forgiveness. Secondly, the Callaways are lighter probably b/c the club head is light. When struck well the feeling on the Callaways is pure soft butter and on the OnOff's almost but not quite the same softness. Just inquiring as to how the different heads and/or shafts might benefit or hurt a non-smooth swinger with a fast tempo? To the eye, they are both very pleasing. I really do not want to keep switching my gaming irons since the difference in specs are going to delay my comfort with one over the other. The golf pro at my club likes the PX shafts over the Nippon but likes the weighting in the OnOff club head. He admits that I hit both equally well currently. In that case, I would play the callaway mb because I think they look nicer, has a better set up with slimmer topline and little offset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambles Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I own both sets. Originally I thought that MB's would be my practice set b/c they would be less forgiving and the OnOff my gaming set b/c of the cavity back forgiveness. What has thrown me for a loop is that both are about equal in forgiveness. Secondly, the Callaways are lighter probably b/c the club head is light. When struck well the feeling on the Callaways is pure soft butter and on the OnOff's almost but not quite the same softness. Just inquiring as to how the different heads and/or shafts might benefit or hurt a non-smooth swinger with a fast tempo? To the eye, they are both very pleasing. I really do not want to keep switching my gaming irons since the difference in specs are going to delay my comfort with one over the other. The golf pro at my club likes the PX shafts over the Nippon but likes the weighting in the OnOff club head. He admits that I hit both equally well currently. Your results are pretty much what I would expect from two sets reasonably close in flex, size, length and weight. You could probably use either as your permanent set equally at this point, if that was all you were looking for in a set. Others would be looking at how consistently they could send the ball higher on call, or lower on call, or bend the ball in either direction, on call. Some might want to look at how much deeper one set will bury as against the other when a mistake is made and you strike the big ball instead of the little one. Given that you can hit your targets, which set stops the ball more quickly, but can also be made to roll on demand. The list can go on and on endlessly, or at least a very long list of characteristics that will be different depending on the design of the club and how you had it built. The bottom line, however, is how you feel with that set in your hands, meaning, are you confident that you can do the shots you have learned and will be able to recover from the inevitable mistakes ? If you find your ball trying to hide beneath some tall grass but are close enough to the green to ought to be able to reach it, which set gives you more confidence ? Does one set hammer the ball out of the tall grass more efficiently than the other ? I suggest you play both sets and in time, you will choose one over the other because you FEEL it better than the other regardless that the other set also does pretty much the same shots. One set is going to be more right in your hands and that decision belongs to you alone. Shambles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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