valante Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 i've been testing shafts for my ryomas for this past 3 months. at the beginning try to find "the" shaft. Then i realize there is no "the" shaft, but only "the shaftsss"........... some of the good shaft really give a different feel and form to play, and it will be fun to have it depends on the day, the course and of course the buddies.... those shafts that i didint pick not because that its not good enough, but it just didnt suit my swing style and since ryoma tip insert its higher than some of the other driver heads, it's just not easy to find the shaft that i want.(without front tip them) got all 3 ryoma heads 1.> 10,5 ryoma premia 201g, 0.5 closed 2.> 10,5 ryoma d1 198g, 0.5 closed 3.> 9,5 ryoma v spec 198g, square this is some of the list of the shaft that i've been testing 1.> matrix tphd 5 2.> matrix fm2 3.> matrix reign 4.> Diamana Kaili 5.> Diamana Ahina 6.> Basara Griffin 7.> Claymore 8.> Graphite Design GD DI 9.> Graphite Design GD DJ 10.> Crazy Black 40 11.> Crazy Black 50 12.> Crazy Black 80 13.> UST mamiya attas 1 14.> UST mamiya attas 2 15.> UST mamiya attas 3 16.> Matrix irudda 17.> matrix Radix 17.> i may add more as i forget some of them... Some of the shaft been fit on and off and on again for more than 3 times on the same head! its a very tiring 3 months also very enjoyable months at the same time. and boy, when u about to try it with the new shaft.....the heart beat pounds like thuff...thuff..thufff...... we end up putting the gd di 5R on ryoma premia with 1" front tip and butt extention for wight purpose with 45.5 length, 315 tw, 225 cpm, d2 ryoma v spec with crazy 40 sr 6.9 LS 45.5 , period...! and havent decide for the d1 at the moment i'm resting and enjoying my golf game, but i know the quest hasnt over yet. those sleepless nights........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eca Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Wow dude that's a gr8 line up of shafts on a gr8 head. That would drive me nuts lol. Are going to post some data? Get the PRGR REP unless u already have a trackman :) Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valante Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Wow dude that's a gr8 line up of shafts on a gr8 head. That would drive me nuts lol. Are going to post some data? Get the PRGR REP unless u already have a trackman :) Cheers the reason why i didnt say anything about the results on each shaft because i didnt keep all the data. :( i do have several of them, because i test it on different place, different software, and different balls and different fitness....(spread in 3 months period) without data, i better not say anything, eventgh i do remember exactly the experience,(like with our girlfriendss) i post some data from matrix pro fitting report. i took some camera shot on trackman and others but i have to dig deep... the first run using kaili 6S, 46, 255cpm with d1 10.5 the second run using tphd5 S+, 45,25, 266cpm the yellow line is the results of the each run, for me both of the results is very wild, kaili feels like noodles...also the matrix didnt show a consistent results either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valante Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 here's the crazy line up that i tried. its an old model tou.... i cant get in touch with the new line up... i put a grip on it, clamp the at 45 inch, put 200grams head and these are the measurement: Black 80 – 257cpm (i didnt write this one down:(...) Black 50 – 244cpm – 66g uncut Black 40 – 250cpm – 58g uncut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eca Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 More please :) Shouldn't you be on the 270+cpm region with your SS? Or u have a slowish tempo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisstrader Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Wow! Where do you guys live that you're able to hit that assortment of shafts/clubs?? Ryoma not available for testing in the US, let alone with different combinations of Crazy shafts although trying to convince my fitter to carry them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundowner Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Hi Valante, great experience! I orderd a Ryoma head some days ago. Not sure which shaft to install. Could you compare the shafts in case of launch, feel, distance, trajectory (anti-left..)..(maybe also by ranking?). Espec. the Crazy´s, GD, Attas.. Would be a great help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valante Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) More please :) Shouldn't you be on the 270+cpm region with your SS? Or u have a slowish tempo? ha..ha..ha..i always wanted to play stiffer shafts(its makes us feel like a real man) but have to accept the fact that i cant and its ruin my tempo.... for ex, i cant even hit the crazy 80 / 7.4 S , the one in the pics...Way to stiff for me, the 6.9, will best, and the farthest one, but i need to be at my top perform, theres no way , if im teeing early in the morning at 5.30am , i can pull it and hit it... therefore if 6.2 will be best for that, and like gocchin said, always play one flex lower with crazy shaft. what is ur swing speed number ECA? Edited November 20, 2011 by valante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valante Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Hi Valante, great experience! I orderd a Ryoma head some days ago. Not sure which shaft to install. Could you compare the shafts in case of launch, feel, distance, trajectory (anti-left..)..(maybe also by ranking?). Espec. the Crazy´s, GD, Attas.. Would be a great help! like i said erlier, i test all those shafts not on a same day, and not on a same fitness and different tracking equipment. i dont think its fair for me to charting it, but i do remember all the shafts feels and perform, i can let u know how its feels and perform compare to ur current shaft or gamer if u tell me how ur current gamer performs...so it will give u idea or reference on shafting ur ryoma what is ur current gamer? u know the specs? like total wight, swing wight, cpm? Edited November 20, 2011 by valante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valante Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Wow! Where do you guys live that you're able to hit that assortment of shafts/clubs?? Ryoma not available for testing in the US, let alone with different combinations of Crazy shafts although trying to convince my fitter to carry them. ha..ha..ha...i believe, if u dig deeper, u will find a TSG member that had ryoma and live in ur area, i bet they will be happy to let u try it... i've been playing golf for 16 years now, been lucky to get my hands alot of clubs to test and tried them.... not to encourage you but ryoma heads is very-very forgiving.... so forgiving that i miss to draw or fade the ball to the course fairways. i miss that shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valante Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Eca here's my swing that i took 2 months ago, with 9 iron, kbs R 110gram. 59. Swing 9 iron ,Sept 14 2011.MOV Edited November 20, 2011 by valante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundowner Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) but i do remember all the shafts feels and perform, i can let u know how its feels and perform compare to ur current shaft or gamer if u tell me how ur current gamer performs...so it will give u idea or reference on shafting ur ryoma what is ur current gamer? u know the specs? like total wight, swing wight, cpm? My current gamer is Kamui 456 with Crazy LY Nero 6.4, 44.25´´, 311 gr., headweight 207gr., sw D1, 237 cpm (5´´ clamp, grip on). Tried also the Crazy CB46 6.2 in it, which wasn´t work for me (was a 0.5´´ tipped shaft, at 44´´inch). Trajectory with Crazy LY01 6.4 is mid-high with roll-out (not much, not less). Very good kick. Like the feel. Very easy to load. With my swing I got a draw, sometimes a hook. With the new Ryoma I´m interested in Crazy´s, Attas, GD. So if you could compare feel, performance.. it would be great! Edited November 20, 2011 by sundowner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eca Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 ha..ha..ha..i always wanted to play stiffer shafts(its makes us feel like a real man) but have to accept the fact that i cant and its ruin my tempo.... for ex, i cant even hit the crazy 80 / 7.4 S , the one in the pics...Way to stiff for me, the 6.9, will best, and the farthest one, but i need to be at my top perform, theres no way , if im teeing early in the morning at 5.30am , i can pull it and hit it... therefore if 6.2 will be best for that, and like gocchin said, always play one flex lower with crazy shaft. what is ur swing speed number ECA? i've only been on a monitor once (hence i ordered a PRGR REP) at a golf shop and my range is 102-105 and comfortably using a 7.2 CB46. I've come from an Oban devotion7 x flex 265cpm and no issues but the weight of that combo is too much for my wrist. I have a moderate tempo. Now ur SS shows all the way to 115mph hence the comment i made. But then, it's about choosing the most flexible shaft you can control right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valante Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 My current gamer is Kamui 456 with Crazy LY Nero 6.4, 44.25´´, 311 gr., headweight 207gr., sw D1, 237 cpm (5´´ clamp, grip on). Tried also the Crazy CB46 6.2 in it, which wasn´t work for me (was a 0.5´´ tipped shaft, at 44´´inch). Trajectory with Crazy LY01 6.4 is mid-high with roll-out (not much, not less). Very good kick. Like the feel. Very easy to load. With my swing I got a draw, sometimes a hook. With the new Ryoma I´m interested in Crazy´s, Attas, GD. So if you could compare feel, performance.. it would be great! GDDI : Mid / high flight, if you can get the right flex, will be a medium smooth shaft, the tip is slightly firm, the but section is flex. Attas : Mid / high flight, the whole shaft perform more stout than DI. Crazy 40 : mid flight, low spin, very good kick, very easy to load ( we have same feeling with this shaft ) the head feels faster to square, it feels like an iron in my hand. but its intimate me to hit it harder, because i feel like i can control it. GD DI is a very good shaft but for some people who didnt have a swing that thru the ball when contact, will get some issue with this shaft. this people normally hit down at impact and creating a lot of spins on the ball or they lift the ball up on the impact. then it will make the ball balooning at the flight. people have an extreme feeling with this shaft, either they love it, or they hate it so much.... i play this shaft a year ago, but its just getting the respect this year after tiger plays it, until other forum name it shaft of the year for 2011. i personally like this shaft since i more swings thru it not jump on it. Crazy shaft just a whole different shaft compare those 2, it just give u a different way on playing ur golf game, its agresive, confidence way. it just change the way i play without i realizing it. when i grip it, feels it, i just have a confidence feeling that the club head will not be left behind. so i just smash it. i consider my self to be a swinger yet when i play with this shaft i naturally change my swing style become more of a hitter. the hard thing will be choosing the right crazy model and flex. they have many model and it just make me confuse...especially alot of the review in japanese. i think gocchin is the among the person who know this shaft very well. Attas, i havent really "connect" with this shaft, test them every now and then , on ryoma head, on R9 head, still havent understand what the engeneer want me to experience on this shaft, so i better not talk about this shaft to much. i think if the above brand is your choices, it will be very easy for you to decide. if u want to more swing your driver away, then i think GD its the one but if u like to experience the "kick" in the teebox, then crazy will be the one, just finding the right model for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valante Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 i've only been on a monitor once (hence i ordered a PRGR REP) at a golf shop and my range is 102-105 and comfortably using a 7.2 CB46. I've come from an Oban devotion7 x flex 265cpm and no issues but the weight of that combo is too much for my wrist. I have a moderate tempo. Now ur SS shows all the way to 115mph hence the comment i made. But then, it's about choosing the most flexible shaft you can control right? wow....102sw for 265cpm..most of my buddies swinging in 102...cant handle more than 250ish... they will having a hard time on sqaureing the club head. i can imagine how ur wrist have to close that 70g/265 shaft.... i cant do heavier than 65g, it just wont do for me. yup, last week i test ping G20 j spec, 10.5 regular, and......wow......not a bad one at all, and its long too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eca Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 265cpm is not what gave me the pain, it's the D5 340ish gram static weight. I had a lash at it 2 wks ago, i still hit it really good but its a struggle later in the round. My friend Gian11 is 90-95 and is Fitted by Tario for 6.7 & its Perfect. Tario also fitted my 7.2 which is again perfect. Maybe u guys r using those shop ones that give inflated readings :p115mph using 6.2 - 6.9 really is not a good fit to me & 250cpm that a 102mph cant handle is also odd Maybe they are 90mph that swings out of their shoes at the monitor. Btw The high carbon shafts also tend to give higher cpm than what it really plays so my current combo could cpm much higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundowner Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 i think if the above brand is your choices, it will be very easy for you to decide. if u want to more swing your driver away, then i think GD its the one but if u like to experience the "kick" in the teebox, then crazy will be the one, just finding the right model for you. Thanks, for the great comments! Sounds the way to go is crazy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbs Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 i've only been on a monitor once (hence i ordered a PRGR REP) at a golf shop and my range is 102-105 and comfortably using a 7.2 CB46. I've come from an Oban devotion7 x flex 265cpm and no issues but the weight of that combo is too much for my wrist. I have a moderate tempo. Now ur SS shows all the way to 115mph hence the comment i made. But then, it's about choosing the most flexible shaft you can control right? Hi E, my SS is about the same as you abit lower. i am happy with the 7.2 CB 46 myself. i think SS is a guide also the tempo and how quick you can turn over your hands are very important. Remember when i was using the 6.7 after a while i was finding that i had to slow down my tempo more resulting in bad timings. but my CB 80 LS in 6.9 was almost right. hope that helps Volante in his quest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valante Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 265cpm is not what gave me the pain, it's the D5 340ish gram static weight. I had a lash at it 2 wks ago, i still hit it really good but its a struggle later in the round. My friend Gian11 is 90-95 and is Fitted by Tario for 6.7 & its Perfect. Tario also fitted my 7.2 which is again perfect. Maybe u guys r using those shop ones that give inflated readings :p115mph using 6.2 - 6.9 really is not a good fit to me & 250cpm that a 102mph cant handle is also odd Maybe they are 90mph that swings out of their shoes at the monitor. Btw The high carbon shafts also tend to give higher cpm than what it really plays so my current combo could cpm much higher. ha..ha..ha..maybe not only shoes, maybe including watches, wallet and car keys...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valante Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Hi E, my SS is about the same as you abit lower. i am happy with the 7.2 CB 46 myself. i think SS is a guide also the tempo and how quick you can turn over your hands are very important. Remember when i was using the 6.7 after a while i was finding that i had to slow down my tempo more resulting in bad timings. but my CB 80 LS in 6.9 was almost right. hope that helps Volante in his quest hi budi, nice to chat with u again, i found my shaft at last....:) u were right, we just swing and adjust our tempo sometimes according to the shaft flex, we can feel the head is behind or not, that we just increase or decrease our tempo... i even still had a mac tag nvg2 10 degree, r flex , j spec, that have 199cpm. i still hit very good, far and easy with this one, ( because of its hi corr) but the head feels very harrrd compare to ryoma...:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbs Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 hi budi, nice to chat with u again, i found my shaft at last....:) u were right, we just swing and adjust our tempo sometimes according to the shaft flex, we can feel the head is behind or not, that we just increase or decrease our tempo... i even still had a mac tag nvg2 10 degree, r flex , j spec, that have 199cpm. i still hit very good, far and easy with this one, ( because of its hi corr) but the head feels very harrrd compare to ryoma...:) Likewise man. Happy Golfin!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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