wmclarenf1 Posted November 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 There is nothing to load, its not a bow. The effect of shaft kick affecting affecting clubhead speed thus ball speed thus distance is marginal at best and that is if you manage to make it kick right thru impact. You just got used to the feel of swinging a softer shaft and that is all there is to it. Stronger shafts makes you uncomfortable but demo a few and give them a honest try keeping your mind clean from any rationale and that includes what I'm writing, see if it makes a difference, thats all I'm saying. Regarding distances I'm not calling BS on you, dont worry about that, I just thought it was funny match as somebody mentioned Tiger stats. People are always touchy with distances on internet and its always seems to be some sort of d**k measuring contest. If you know your distances right pay no attention as thats simply irrelevant. Thanks ant. No issues with the 7I distance but as you mentioned, "People are always touchy with distances on internet and its always seems to be some sort of d**k measuring contest", which is why thought I'd clarify :-) Maybe I should have said I drive 300 yards.. LOL Will keep in mind your thoughts about a stronger shaft. You are right, a lot happens in the head and what we are used to feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted November 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 (edited) SR For the DI-5, there's only R2/R1 and Stiff. I see from you sign that you are playing a 9.5* V-spec. have you played the AF 101? If yes, can you share your comparative on both please. Edited November 24, 2011 by wmclarenf1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted November 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 the closest crazy to the epon 101 if u like that shape is the 450 from george takei. its head shape is differnt from the jbeam models. more elongated, the face is more closely realted to the epon if u like that shape. the jbeams look very rounded square, totally differnt view and mental piccy at address. the 450 is super low spin low launch, tons and tone of roll as there aint much airrtime, micheal jordan this thing AINT! the 450 feels more tingy than the jbeams, ( which u might like, more ) . the jbeams are very very muted. its a humongous diffference in feel. all the crazy driver heads are pretty solid thumping things. u wil get tons of run, little ability to move it laterally , thye are point shoot in my book Thanks supo. I think you have played or demoed the AF 101? If so, loft for loft, would you say the Crazy 450 launches a lot lower and spins a lot less/roll a lot more than the AF 101? Apologies all for so many questions but Crazy, Ryoma et al are not on my shores for any sort of demo much less a look at in the metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted November 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 If you want to stick with the same driver shaft you use now, which is pretty soft and light, then something like the 435II in 9.5 will help you get the ball fligght and spin down, and you will get some roll. The Ryoma is from what I understand a high launch ultra forgiving head, same goes for crazy 460. These 2 heads would seem to less suitable if you want a lower flight? I'd say thet the epon 101 is maybe lower (correct me if I'm wrong) launch and maybe even lower spin than the ryoma or CRZ460, so these 2 heads would seem (to me) to make your problem worse and not better..Unless you find a ryoma or a CRZ460 with something like 7 degrees of loft which you can't get. According to Stu, probably the most experienced and knowledgeable member here, the crz450 is the lowest of the low spin heads even though, according to him, it's not super forgiving. That head might be bit too much even for somebody like you, so the 435 or 435II seems to be it, in a low loft. The 445HG might also do the trick, it's a bit bigger than the 435 heads, but similar otherwise. You need a low loft, low spin head. I think so at least, unless you want to start messing with shafts..Which brings in a host of other things to think about. Thanks Vegaman. I do want to stay away from changing shafts as in general I am very comfortable with GD tour Ad shafts and also, I want to keep all other vairables apart from head the same. If your coments on AF 101 being lower launching and spinnuing that the Ryomas and Crazy 460 are right then yes, I would be better off staying away from them. On your comment of the 450 is it really that unforgiving? I ask because I would liek to stay as close to 460 and I thought thus far, the Crazy 450 seems to be the best bet. I also don't think I should go down to an 8.5*.. I really don;t know.. But low spin head, yes, that is a safe conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 Thanks supo. I think you have played or demoed the AF 101? If so, loft for loft, would you say the Crazy 450 launches a lot lower and spins a lot less/roll a lot more than the AF 101? Apologies all for so many questions but Crazy, Ryoma et al are not on my shores for any sort of demo much less a look at in the metal. i game the epon 101 stinger when i gotta play for big bucks and i need LOTS of distance. if i play my mates at narita which is 7200 yards, then i play the epon 9.5 without question i can hit this square more than anything else i have. and when i go after it thew distance i get is terrific. i just love the head shape. i find the shaping ability is the best aswell. i dont play this in oz as the j beam gets the nod most of the time there. the crz 450 isnt that hard to hit at all, its just low . not unforgiving, just super straight. its good ,ver y good i like it but something baout if . like the 456 kamui doesnt get me sqaure, with the epon, maruman , and jbeam 425 tour i dont have that prob any where near as much . the 450 is a straight hitters dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 Thanks Vegaman. I do want to stay away from changing shafts as in general I am very comfortable with GD tour Ad shafts and also, I want to keep all other vairables apart from head the same. If your coments on AF 101 being lower launching and spinnuing that the Ryomas and Crazy 460 are right then yes, I would be better off staying away from them. On your comment of the 450 is it really that unforgiving? I ask because I would liek to stay as close to 460 and I thought thus far, the Crazy 450 seems to be the best bet. I also don't think I should go down to an 8.5*.. I really don;t know.. But low spin head, yes, that is a safe conclusion. I just remember from the back of my head about reading from Supo that the CRZ450 wasn't easy to hit, but I for sure seem to remember it wrongly. Maybe because he wrote that it's not easy to launch high? And then I mixed up and scrambled the info in my head and it came out as "not so easy to hit", sorry about that. I like the look of the crz450 at adress for sure, and it's often described as the lowest spin of all low spin heads, so you might even have to go with a 10 degree, but that probably bring some extra directional forgivness? So, extremely low spin head,+ add some loft for usability/friendliness and there you go. Supo, I think I even remember you writing that the 450 might suit a bit less stout, less high kicking shaft because of theheads low spinning nature? Or maybe I remember that wrongly again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted November 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 I just remember from the back of my head about reading from Supo that the CRZ450 wasn't easy to hit, but I for sure seem to remember it wrongly. Maybe because he wrote that it's not easy to launch high? And then I mixed up and scrambled the info in my head and it came out as "not so easy to hit", sorry about that. I like the look of the crz450 at adress for sure, and it's often described as the lowest spin of all low spin heads, so you might even have to go with a 10 degree, but that probably bring some extra directional forgivness? So, extremely low spin head,+ add some loft for usability/friendliness and there you go. Supo, I think I even remember you writing that the 450 might suit a bit less stout, less high kicking shaft because of theheads low spinning nature? Or maybe I remember that wrongly again.. Thanks for clarifying. Crazy 450 and Ryoma V-spec seem to be on the shortlist. If crazy 450 launches low, I think I'll try the 9.5 as if I go up to 10*, the I could be where I am with the AF 101 9.5. Have PMed Tairo and he;s trying to hook me up to see if I can get some range time with a V spec or Crazy 450 on my shores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted November 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 i game the epon 101 stinger when i gotta play for big bucks and i need LOTS of distance. if i play my mates at narita which is 7200 yards, then i play the epon 9.5 without question i can hit this square more than anything else i have. and when i go after it thew distance i get is terrific. i just love the head shape. i find the shaping ability is the best aswell. i dont play this in oz as the j beam gets the nod most of the time there. the crz 450 isnt that hard to hit at all, its just low . not unforgiving, just super straight. its good ,ver y good i like it but something baout if . like the 456 kamui doesnt get me sqaure, with the epon, maruman , and jbeam 425 tour i dont have that prob any where near as much . the 450 is a straight hitters dream. Thanks again Supo. The Crazy 450 you are mentioning is a 9.5* loft like your AF 101? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 the 450 is higher spin than the 435 and slightyl higher launching, (but thats realtive to other drivers bec. its not high at all.) i used the 450 agn a few weeks ago for 9 holes and got a low flight . not dissimilar to the kamui. def lower , a lot lower than the epon 101. i cant get a shot shape in my head with either driver. as ive said i suffer form this incurable mental disease , that i cant see a straight line , i need to see some kind of arc. hence dead straight holes of 400 yards freak me out! and thats why the 460cc heads in general and i arnt gettign on. (saying this the ryoma and i are getting along very nicely agn as of wed) the 450 gives the ball a decent thump make no mistake , i get very very good distance with this its got the crazy black 50 7.7 in it, so its no slouch, no sirrrreeeeee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 the 450 is higher spin than the 435 and slightyl higher launching, (but thats realtive to other drivers bec. its not high at all.) i used the 450 agn a few weeks ago for 9 holes and got a low flight . not dissimilar to the kamui. def lower , a lot lower than the epon 101. i cant get a shot shape in my head with either driver. as ive said i suffer form this incurable mental disease , that i cant see a straight line , i need to see some kind of arc. hence dead straight holes of 400 yards freak me out! and thats why the 460cc heads in general and i arnt gettign on. (saying this the ryoma and i are getting along very nicely agn as of wed) the 450 gives the ball a decent thump make no mistake , i get very very good distance with this its got the crazy black 50 7.7 in it, so its no slouch, no sirrrreeeeee. Ha ha, I know that feeling very well. Straight holes are somehow more difficult to score on than doglegs. I can usually shape my tee shot if the hole turns, but when they are dead straight I find it hard to aim somewhere. usually i hook it badly on straight, longish holes. How is the impact feel with the 450 with the black 50? Sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 vmuch like the epon 101 in sound and feel actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted November 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 vmuch like the epon 101 in sound and feel actually Now that is important to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Hi All, I just picked up a Ryoma VSpec 9.5 from Ian. I will be putting in the sam GD DI5 shaft that;s in my AF101 and hope it works out. Thanks all for the very good input. Much appreciated. Will give a comparo of the Ryoma and AF 101 after a few roundsa and range sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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