supo Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 the problem.................... to get this great driver redressed and back into play and to play it at 43.5-44 inch without having the swing weight at c6..! and without making another beast like the jbeam tour i took to the islands this summer which didnt go more than 5 feet off the ground. ive been pondering what to do with my preposterously large stable of inert drivers and shafts for a long time they deserve MUCH better than the back of the bag treatment they currently get. it dawned on me after my success with the kascos fairway drivers recently , that there might lie another dimension to driverdom nirvana that i havnt explored yet . the uber short alternate driver for those hard to reach places. and when it gets very bit puffy out there and the 13* wont cut the mustard bec it tends to go sky high. rummaging around the back of my driver box. i unearthed my ever faithfull and all time favourite driver the callawy ERC3, + the yonex nextage 9* both of which have graphite design ev6s shafts in them which dont suit me in the slightest. ( so if anyone needs one, PM me ) and both of them unused for the longest of time. these are seriously good drivers in thier own right , and as they are could easliy occupy anyones bag with stlye, panache and grace. but they are sitting unloved, unused collecting dust, such a wasteof great drivers . the engine....................., here i was pondering all manner of shafts i have unused. stingers, roddios, di7s, ahinas , sigmas, bangvoos, diamana blues, kailis, and none of these apart form the sigma would work. i couldnt get how i coud do this without pouring a heap of gel into the heads to get the SW up to where i want around d-2 - d-3 then the clouds opened and inspiration struck,( or rather, a well timed phone call to spoon) who pointed out that i also have 3 unused GD p9003x shafts sitting idle that i totally forgot about. 83 grams. grpahite design, (which was the brand of shaft chosen by ishikawa to accompany the yonex head in the first place. ) cut to 43.75 inch shud make it around 75 ish grams + 50 for the grip, 198 for the head. 323 +- a cpl grams baddabing, badda bing bang boom, d2.5 here i come. it goes in tomorrow . and so the 1st , 16th 17th at longy . the entire course at magenta shores! and the 3rd, 5th , 7th ,14th, 15th...................AND ..............16th at NSW (all things being equal ) shoud no longer pose the immense problems they cause every game. well thats the PLAN.....! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Interesting read! Ive been thinking about a "short" set-up too, was thinking about getting a not too heavy steel shaft even and put my R510TP in it. And keep it under 44 inches. Will be interesting to see how it works out. I'd like to see a photo of your golf heads/Shafts "dungeon" by the way, ha ha. By the way, the TS 703 I got from you quite a long time ago is "finally" (after some mixed results with Roddio and Miyazaki) it's working very well in a LY-02 in Xstiff I picked up used just to try it out.. Of course, made me think about something more deep faced like a Jbeam 425 or something.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charge Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Very interesting. I've been tempted to go to a 43.5" with a small head but didn't want to deal with hotmelt and effects of a heavier head on the shaft. going 85 grams shaft seems to be the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) the j beams are an intersting head. they sound pretty average , extremely muted and dull and dont have much feel to them........................, but they pack a seriously ,mean ,punch. the 44 incha i had in july worked well but oh boy it felt horrible. was specific to hawaii, and i did play it well. it did exactly what i wanted it to do. go really low and run like bolt. just want the new one to be a bit more friendly. that jbeam head is perfect for this type of driver. Edited December 7, 2011 by supo67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potuna Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I'm going to try a DI-7 at 44.5" in my R11, if it doesn't work in the driver I know it will be a good 3 wood shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I'm going to try a DI-7 at 44.5" in my R11, if it doesn't work in the driver I know it will be a good 3 wood shaft. i like the dis better in a 3wood than in a driver. the Di and quattrotechs are the gold standard for me in terms of feel and trajectory for woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charge Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 All things being equal, (same headweight and same grip). If I go down a 1" in my driver length but move up 10 grams in the same shaft, say DI7 to DI8, would I end up with the same swingweight??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 All things being equal, (same headweight and same grip). If I go down a 1" in my driver length but move up 10 grams in the same shaft, say DI7 to DI8, would I end up with the same swingweight??? it depends. some shafts are counterweighted. i did the same experiment with a di8s, i cut it to 44 yet SW was d5/6. i attribute this to the very heavy head. these 360 heads were designed to be played at 43.5 so if i had cut it to that length would have achieved the ideal swingweight. cutting a shaft .5 will approx 2-3 points on average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charge Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 it depends. some shafts are counterweighted. i did the same experiment with a di8s, i cut it to 44 yet SW was d5/6. i attribute this to the very heavy head. these 360 heads were designed to be played at 43.5 so if i had cut it to that length would have achieved the ideal swingweight. cutting a shaft .5 will approx 2-3 points on average. My current head is 198g, 44.5" DI-7 now swingweighting at D3. If I go to DI-8 but down in length to 43.5" any guess as to what it would come out to??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffer19 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I think the rule of thumb is 1/2 inch in length is 6 points in SW. Besides an increase in shaft weight, one might need to increase weight in the head area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 i agree, generally every half inch equals 3 swing points........I doubt a shaft weighing 10 grams would move the swing weight more than 1-1.5 SW.....to get the SW up, the weight is placed in the head, it would take a very heavy shaft to move the swingweight loss from 1"....... @supo....how about trying a steel shaft ??????? im planning on sticking a steelshaft into my yonex 380 and playing it at 43.75" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Like I wrote earlier, I've been thinking abput going the steel shaft route and keep it short. Maybe use my oold TM R510TP or a Vega DAF head, should be that compact deep faced look to suit the concept of a low spin low launch straight driver with roll on the shots. Imagine myself hitting "stingers" with a set up like that, can always dream.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 now thats an interesting idea. what shaft would i put in a driver head tho?? i do have a cpl of old 3 wood steel shafts form NS 950 fw i think they are. that might do the trick perfectly. another thing i lookd at last night was the crazy 80 fw 8.2 shaft can this be put in a driver head aould anyone know???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 That Crazy might be exactly whats needed, if its heavy enough. Otherwise, a heavier steel shaft might the way to go. Like on of those steel 3-wood shafts. Somethng in the 90-100 grams range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted December 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 FINALLY got this set up. yonex nextage 9* head. graphite design p9003x shaft 43.5 inch 334 gram c8 SW gamed today. built to hit low. running drives on tight holes about 20 ish + - yards shorter than normal driver. well it went low. ran , and ended up about 5-10 yards shorter than i normally hit , very very very happy with this. very happy. much better than i expected. hit the middle of the fairway most shots only lost one drive right which cost me . getting the ball to go left is pretty hard. i could go hard as hell at it . no problems. this will be absolutely perfect, better than anything for the links. love it. oh and just for the record, if anyone fancies making a big monster driver these two components are suited as good as anything else ive hit. seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleUK Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 I think the rule of thumb is 1/2 inch in length is 6 points in SW. Besides an increase in shaft weight, one might need to increase weight in the head area. Is that 6 points of increase or decrease?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatMan Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 Is that 6 points of increase or decrease?? It's actually 3 for every 1/2". Increase in length= increase in SW & vice-versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleUK Posted December 17, 2011 Report Share Posted December 17, 2011 It's actually 3 for every 1/2". Increase in length= increase in SW & vice-versa. Thanks again! Worth thinking about as when my new shaft(s) turn up I'm thinking of playing 44.5" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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