JGalls Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) Good player but some of my inconsistencies (including high ball flight, poor turf contact, etc) are caused by my lack of shaft lean at address and my hands might even sneak behind the ball at address. I visually struggle with my hands being forward at address. Maybe an eye dominance issue or....? I've been experimenting with a buddy's set of Ping I5's and it seems that I'm more comfortable with getting my hands forward with the added offset. Does anyone else have a similar issue here? Any CB's that are more "player" orientated that feature offset? I've been looking into maybe trying the R9 TP "C" irons as they are a consistent 2mm offset. I would however like to see if there are any JDM options that might fit the bill. If i eventually find out that this might be what I definitely need, then I should probably go the custom Mizuno option where you can order specific offset requests. Edited August 10, 2012 by JGalls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 The problem is usually the other way around! Meaning that a lot of people bemoan the lack of CBs with very little offset and think most every CB have to much of it. I'd look at some I20s or something if I were you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anggapra Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 tourstage xblade gr forged perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandee11 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Epon 302? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daamartin Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 I know exactly what you mean! I played with (and still have) PRGR 500bl irons and love them. Definitely players irons, but have what you are looking for and encourage hands ahead. Now playing 2009 ONOFF Plus with Roddio i10sx graphite. They also have a bit of offset - I needed the lighter shafts due to a wrist injury earlier this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambles Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) Good player but some of my inconsistencies (including high ball flight, poor turf contact, etc) are caused by my lack of shaft lean at address and my hands might even sneak behind the ball at address. I visually struggle with my hands being forward at address. Maybe an eye dominance issue or....? I've been experimenting with a buddy's set of Ping I5's and it seems that I'm more comfortable with getting my hands forward with the added offset. Does anyone else have a similar issue here? Any CB's that are more "player" orientated that feature offset? I've been looking into maybe trying the R9 TP "C" irons as they are a consistent 2mm offset. I would however like to see if there are any JDM options that might fit the bill. If i eventually find out that this might be what I definitely need, then I should probably go the custom Mizuno option where you can order specific offset requests. I get the feeling that your comfort with the I 5's is more because it gives comfort for addressing the ball a little farther back because of the offset. It's both a visual and physical effect. The offset allows your eyes to see the loft with less of a delofting effect at a very slightly rearward address, and physically you should be able to feel the toe swing that the offset also has a role in emphasizing a very little bit. The toe swing is most felt by those of us who have a very light grip on the club. There are blades that were weighted to duplicate, to some degree, that toe swing. In my case, it is the SWORD TM 305 which has a visible slab of Tungsten alloy on the flange, but has the look of a non offset blade. Unfortunately, I have been told the company no longer produces clubs. You might be able to find some experienced clubs or some other blades built to the same or similar bias. Bottom line, however, is that the blade designed in this manner resists the fade and slice a little bit so, just like the I 5, you would need to do more to purposely make a slice or fade. Just not as much as in the case of the offset I 5. You also lose the visual support of the offset in addressing the ball slightly farther back. There are other designs that can achieve some of the offset toe swing effect. What can be done, I think, is tip weighting a players design that is fit with lighter shafts. Unfortunately I have never done this and so cannot be definitive about the effect if any, in the perceptible range. The X 20 TOUR and it's subsequent reiterations is a cavity back with very little offset that also allows you to bend the ball in either direction with reasonably equal ease. Again, the weight adjustment would reduce the bend to the right ease. However you could always undo the bias at some future date, or simply build it to a degree of bias you prefer. I HAVE NEVER DONE THIS AND SO CANNOT BE SURE IT WILL WORK. This is the kind of thing wherein you truly need a very good clubmaker's advice and assistance in trying. The cost of experimenting could add up to some pocket pain so I suggest you simply haunt the second hand bins and see if you can find a design that suits your search. I am certain they are out there as I do have the Sword and also some offset irons, but your search might not even be what I am describing. You cheapest alternative is to address the ball slightly more forward and fix your swing. Shambles Edited August 12, 2012 by Shambles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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