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Diamana Ilima vs. Kai'li vs. Fubuki Alpha


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Guys,

I need your help. I have the original egg spoon 15° currently shafted with a Ilima 70s. I'm actually quite happy with it. The "problem" is that my shots are really really high. I would say they are birderline to balooning. I would lime to try out a new shaft that is slightly lower. Supo67 alredy raved about the Kai'li in a FW. So, this would be one candidate. Another one is the Fubuki Alpha. But actually I don't really know anything about it. Can anyone compare those shafts? Btw, my driver ss is about 100 mph with a smooth transition.

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Kaili will launch lower. Im using an Ilima 70x in my 3 wood and its perfect, slight draw with enough spin not to roll out on greens. Try the x.

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Kai'li (S) would be the way to go. Won't bring it down dramatically but noticeably.

Haven't hit the Fubuki

GD MD-6 would be a good shaft also

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So, I understood the Kai'li would be the lowest of the bunch. How is the difference between the Ilima and the Fubuki Alpha?

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Of the 3 the fubuki is the lowest launching, think ahina equivalent. It is a pretty stout shaft. The Kali is super smooth and Imho feels softer than it actually is. It has a fairly low flight. The other shaft should be the highest launching of the 3 but I've not hit it myself.

Based on your ss try the Kali s or x or the alpha s

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i havent hit the spoon but from what Tario written about it on the blog here its high launching head by design so you have to realize that its always gonna be part of your equation even if you put a rebar in it. i have here fubuki ax 85x (tipped 1/2" per MRC instructions) that i replaced with bb 103x in my 3w. i dont think you would be able to balloon it even with your spoon. its very stable and precise shaft (dispersion with it is amazing) but if you like alot of feel/play in your shafts you aint gonna like it. it doesnt launch low but it doesnt climb high either just stays there, i think its designed like that to get more distance. i was contemplating on putting it on BST for a very reasonable price since its collecting dust and someone else can put it to good use but shipping from Europe to anywhere across the pond is too expensive these days so kinda doesnt worth a stretch. [EDIT: just realized you are in Germany which is just across the border so PM me if you are interested, its one time professional pull in good nick, bought new from TSG here]

Guys,

I need your help. I have the original egg spoon 15° currently shafted with a Ilima 70s. I'm actually quite happy with it. The "problem" is that my shots are really really high. I would say they are birderline to balooning. I would lime to try out a new shaft that is slightly lower. Supo67 alredy raved about the Kai'li in a FW. So, this would be one candidate. Another one is the Fubuki Alpha. But actually I don't really know anything about it. Can anyone compare those shafts? Btw, my driver ss is about 100 mph with a smooth transition.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

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I do know that the Egg Spoon is high launch and I don't really mind that. Just that paired with a high launch shaft might not be ideal. That is why I would like to experiment with a lower launching shaft. The face is not what I would call soft. So I'm thinking to go with the smooth Kai'li 70S here to counterbalance the feel a bit.

I also bought an Adams Speedline LP 3W with the stock Matrix Radix Stiff shaft (I know, not JDM). Aweful shaft. It's labeled stiff but feels like a wet noodle and seems to be high spin. It's balooning and I'm all over the place. The head I like. This velocity slot thing does seem to work. It feels like the ball stays a bit longer on the face. You can really feel it and it give a kind of softness at impact which I like. It also seems to be a high launch head. I think I will pair that with the Fubuki Alpha. Then it will be going head to head against the Egg Spoon. If the Spoon is not better you might see it soon on BST.

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@ant: Thanks for the offer, but I don't think I should be using anything labeled X-flex. If anything I'm more towards SR flex.

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i think you are missing the point on high launch head and how much it matters. like idrive said it wont make dramatic change with that shaft. if you really ballooning it and wanna counter act the head you need more dramatic change in your shaft so X might work better for you than you think, maybe not fubuki ax 85x tho because it really is a stiff shaft. i'd rather pick the shaft you like and find a lower launching head for it. either that or change your swing because how you come into the ball and release has the most effect on all that, much more than any shaft or head tweaks can ever do for you. i guarantee you that your local pro can hit your club just fine without ballooning it because they can find the way to come into the ball slightly delofted even with lady flex shaft and higher club head speed than yours at the same time. on matrix and noodle flex you should check if its oem version and if it is its anybodys guess what flex it really is as major manufacturers generally tolerate +/-one flex easily plus it would obviously be lower quality shaft not matching real thing specs. matrix usually makes very tight shafts so that sounds like a sign of oem version to me tho i havent hit the one you mention so could be totally off on that one.

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I know the shaft won't turn a high ball into a worm burner. I'm not entirely unhapoy with the Ilima. Just would lime to see if I can gain a few more yard with a different shaft.

As for the matrix shaft, I heard that adams usually have the real deal shafts in. I think it is more of a bend profile issue with the shaft. It just feels soft throught the whole swing.

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if you solve ballooning problem you should gain distance coz once it starts to balloon you lose both carry and roll. accuracy too as those ballooning balls are harder to predict or control.

Just would lime to see if I can gain a few more yard with a different shaft.

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