bkkgolfer Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Now I realised how fragile Crazy shaft is. Just broke my Crazy CB-46 7.2 bought from a very respectable TSG'er. It's only my 3rd round with it. Heard the cracking sound during the down swing just before impact. Not a clean break. Twisted couple inches above the ferrule. Disappointed. Shaft hunting again… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerobound Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Man, that Rim Golf Club in AZ looks awesome! And good luck to all with the shaft situations. I know cold weather does have an affect on the material, but its usually not enough to cause a break in the shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Really suprised with the fragility of these Crazy shafts. Are there other manufacturers with these faults? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaygolf Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Breaking a crazy shaft probably gives you a pass at throwing a wobbly on the course. Etiquette loophole. I had 2 pulled, drove an extra hour away so the most reputable builder I know of could do it. A couple of years ago I read shafting beads reduces the likelihood of them snapping, it could be a load of bs, but since that day if you don't use beads, you're not building my gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisstrader Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Never heard of shafts shattering prior to reading this thread. I'd be a bit peeved if I spent a ton on a Crazy shaft only to swing and find that the shaft had cracked or shattered. I have had club heads come right off the shaft when I used persimmon woods 100yrs ago, but never a shaft gone bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 A couple of years ago I read shafting beads reduces the likelihood of them snapping, it could be a load of bs, but since that day if you don't use beads, you're not building my gear. Shafting beads do help to reduce very very minor free play which of course helps to reduce shaft fatigue and subsequent breakage. Sometimes its a case of a shim being required as well and not just shafting beads which can only do so much. Many fitters use know how to use standard shims and know not how to "thin" a shim in instances when the free play is not that much such when a standard shim is required but more than shafting beads can adequately serve. You can file more off the tip to fit the shim but I always refer to have that as the last resort especially in today's context when shafts are getting lighter with thinner shaft walls. This is definitely the case 50+ gram shafts and more so for 40+ and 30+ gram shafts. for So yup, a good and experienced club fitter is definitely required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 i snapped 2 graphite design shafts, a fujikura and a diamana stinger. these all snapped on impact. above the ferrule. no clean break. it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdGolf Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 i snapped 2 graphite design shafts, a fujikura and a diamana stinger. these all snapped on impact. above the ferrule. no clean break. it happens. You need to stop using em as walking stick C...... :=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkgolfer Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Have been using Graphite Design's and Graman shafts for years and yet to encounter shaft breakage. First time using Crazy's shaft and the unwanted happened... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreBeerBetterGolf Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 I've had 2 driver shafts break they weren't anything special... But one was when I borrowed a friends club to hit a couple at the range. First ball clean strike head goes flying. Oops sorry man. Last year first drive at league first league night of year first night I've ever played in that league. Tee off with 30 people standing there. Club head went about 20 yards forward and left and came to rest at base of big hickory tree. The drive was actually pretty decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 You need to stop using em as walking stick C...... :=) i havent done that since i snapped SN#000132X stinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 We've had Diamana's break, Fuji's break, Tour AD's break, Quadra's break, Honma ARMRQ's break and other brands as well. It is not only Crazy shafts. Crazy may be more prone to breaking because of their materials. The reason why they are such great performers is that high grade carbons are made of more glass particles vs rubber in lower grade shafts. So naturally the materials and thinner wall sections can be subject to breakage which is why Crazy is very good with their warranties. This is the nature of high modulus carbon, amazing performance, consistent release and very active tip sections but at the cost of being a bit more fragile. Lower end shafts do not break as easily since the materials are lower grade and more rubbery and not nearly as fine. Crazy shafts are not meant to be pulled and reinstalled numerous times over. The heat and constant pulling can weaken the weaves. A couple of times okay but too much pulling is not good. I would always make sure if you are buying used Crazy that it is a ONE time pull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaygolf Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 We've had Diamana's break, Fuji's break, Tour AD's break, Quadra's break, Honma ARMRQ's break and other brands as well. It is not only Crazy shafts. Crazy may be more prone to breaking because of their materials. The reason why they are such great performers is that high grade carbons are made of more glass particles vs rubber in lower grade shafts. So naturally the materials and thinner wall sections can be subject to breakage which is why Crazy is very good with their warranties. This is the nature of high modulus carbon, amazing performance, consistent release and very active tip sections but at the cost of being a bit more fragile. Lower end shafts do not break as easily since the materials are lower grade and more rubbery and not nearly as fine. Crazy shafts are not meant to be pulled and reinstalled numerous times over. The heat and constant pulling can weaken the weaves. A couple of times okay but too much pulling is not good. I would always make sure if you are buying used Crazy that it is a ONE time pull. One time pull is my general rule. That and only the best builder out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisstrader Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 We've had Diamana's break, Fuji's break, Tour AD's break, Quadra's break, Honma ARMRQ's break and other brands as well. It is not only Crazy shafts. Crazy may be more prone to breaking because of their materials. The reason why they are such great performers is that high grade carbons are made of more glass particles vs rubber in lower grade shafts. So naturally the materials and thinner wall sections can be subject to breakage which is why Crazy is very good with their warranties. This is the nature of high modulus carbon, amazing performance, consistent release and very active tip sections but at the cost of being a bit more fragile. Lower end shafts do not break as easily since the materials are lower grade and more rubbery and not nearly as fine. Crazy shafts are not meant to be pulled and reinstalled numerous times over. The heat and constant pulling can weaken the weaves. A couple of times okay but too much pulling is not good. I would always make sure if you are buying used Crazy that it is a ONE time pull. Good answer. I guess I've been fortunate in that I don't buy many used shafts, but used shafts are quite common on BST. Perhaps new unwritten rule should be that seller divulges number of times shaft has been pulled, although not always easy to determine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 i've seen plenty of shafts break during the years so this is definitely not something unique to crazy shafts. my shaft broke by freak accident and although the circumstances likely couldn't be duplicated in a thousand attempts, i do think any other brand shaft would have suffered the same consequences. the difference is that crazy stands behind their products with a warranty backed by an honor and integrity that is lacking in many companies today... in and out of the golf industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Good answer. I guess I've been fortunate in that I don't buy many used shafts, but used shafts are quite common on BST. Perhaps new unwritten rule should be that seller divulges number of times shaft has been pulled, although not always easy to determine. that would depend on the character of the person. when i buy gear i always have a mental note on my overall experience with the seller, but sometimes gear is just misrepresented you have to filter. most especially with shafts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisstrader Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 that would depend on the character of the person. when i buy gear i always have a mental note on my overall experience with the seller, but sometimes gear is just misrepresented you have to filter. most especially with shafts Precisely why I LOVE this forum...feels more like trading gear amongst friends I trust vs some of the other crap sites where it's literally a crapshoot as to who you're dealing with or what you'll receive in the mail or if you ever receive anything at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaygolf Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Precisely why I LOVE this forum...feels more like trading gear amongst friends I trust vs some of the other crap sites where it's literally a crapshoot as to who you're dealing with or what you'll receive in the mail or if you ever receive anything at all. Yep. It's like a small community. A community of sick puppies that joined a sect because elsewhere people don't understand them. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIduffer Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Yep. It's like a small community. A community of sick puppies that joined a sect because elsewhere people don't understand them. :) I view it as... SJ2GEAD Anonymous All we are lacking is an actual 12 step to quit… OK, so not that anonymous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreBeerBetterGolf Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 So many enablers of this strange disease... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 its an obession that is maddening and enjoyable. if i spent as much effort in my real job id be more capable to indulge the beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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