Jarri Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) I can't believe a Finance Director won't buy a plane ticket! Admittedly I don't know your circumstances. My sincerest apologies if I have come across in a very negative way... admittedly this was my post here and should have refrained from saying what hcp I am and what I do for a living. This has come across very wrong, and I understand the doubts about my not getting to 2.3 in 3 years and being a finance director. :) I am just another guy trying to figure out whether I should buy AF302 or 502. I guess the worst that can happen is that I buy 502 and then figure I should have gone for 302 (or vice versa)... in that case I should quietly sell that set and buy the other one. or in retrospect I should have asked a simpler question like "what compares better to Mizuno MP 59 / MP 60 / MP 63s in Epon offerings... AF 302 or AF 502". Thanks everyone for the input... I guess I am better off trying and finding out like the long trail of iron sets I have bought/used/sold over the last 3 years. Will order 502 and see if I hate them :)... will post my findings... Edited November 12, 2012 by Jarri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Fair enough. If I was you then I guess I would go for the 302's, based on the fact that they are slightly smaller than the 502's and to my eye look more attractive. If you can play babyblades then the 302's should be no problem and give you that little bit of forgiveness in the longer irons. You just have to decide on whether they are fake or not at that price. Go for it :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarri Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Fair enough. If I was you then I guess I would go for the 302's, based on the fact that they are slightly smaller than the 502's and to my eye look more attractive. If you can play babyblades then the 302's should be no problem and give you that little bit of forgiveness in the longer irons. You just have to decide on whether they are fake or not at that price. Go for it :) Thanks mate, I'll take your advice and go for 302s... I guess the part in me that wants the AF502 is what wants to hit 7 iron 180 yards to quieten my playing partners (being the shortest hitter in the group kills a little... and saves me comments like "I can spit farther than you can hit")... I guess I should remain happy with 165 yards with 7 iron.. :) and I am paying the guy with paypal so if these turn out to be fake, there is some insurance. Edited November 12, 2012 by Jarri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIduffer Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Thanks mate, I'll take your advice and go for 302s... I guess the part in me that wants the AF502 is what wants to hit 7 iron 180 yards to quieten my playing partners (being the shortest hitter in the group kills a little... and saves me comments like "I can spit farther than you can hit")... I guess I should remain happy with 165 yards with 7 iron.. :) and I am paying the guy with paypal so if these turn out to be fake, there is some insurance. I wouldn't worry much about the distance. If you know your distances and can be accurate with the clubs you need to hit, then it is moot… I think I would be afraid to play in your group as while I might be longer I would lose most every hole... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreBeerBetterGolf Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I took up golfing again in 09 after a 10 year hiatus and plateaued at an 8 last summer then fell to a 13 by seasons end this year after I tore my rotator cuff in the offseason. Just getting back to normal now. So I could believe a person with excellent athletic skills, time to practice, and the right mental makeup could certainly perform such a feat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuramaniac Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 If you're dead set against a combo set (lots of tour guys do it), then I'd definitely get the 302's. I've had the 302's and 502's and while the 502's are longer, they have a "jumpy" sort of feel that is quite different than what you're used to. And IMO distance control is pretty difficult with them. The 302's are less jumpy but I and some others still had more trouble getting consistent distances compared to your Miuras. JMO. Others don't seem to have as much problem with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarri Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I took up golfing again in 09 after a 10 year hiatus and plateaued at an 8 last summer then fell to a 13 by seasons end this year after I tore my rotator cuff in the offseason. Just getting back to normal now. So I could believe a person with excellent athletic skills, time to practice, and the right mental makeup could certainly perform such a feat. Also add the fact that European hcp system is different.. one excellent round can take you down 1.8 hcp points, while you can shoot in the 100+ 18 times before you'll get back to your hcp. US system is more representative of how you ARE playing... European more difficult to sandbag in... To compare you would have had to shoot 50 rounds more than 3 strokes more than your hcp (no upper limit) to go from 8 to 13 (+0.1 for each round)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarri Posted November 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 If you're dead set against a combo set (lots of tour guys do it), then I'd definitely get the 302's. I've had the 302's and 502's and while the 502's are longer, they have a "jumpy" sort of feel that is quite different than what you're used to. And IMO distance control is pretty difficult with them. The 302's are less jumpy but I and some others still had more trouble getting consistent distances compared to your Miuras. JMO. Others don't seem to have as much problem with them. Yourself and Ian-500 have both made some very good points... I'll go with 302s then. On a side note, saw these Callaway Razr X Muslebacks 2/p going for a nice price and couldn't resist... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150944187755? (paid direct paypal as the seller offered them in £460 shipped if I did direct paypal)... So my the family of my iron sets grows... Need help stopping I guess.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrin Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 yep. grew up with same notion that wedges the scoring clubs. why thought the following interesting (slightly off thread - bear with me) http://golf wrx/48333/the-blind-spot-of-pga-tour-players/?utm_source=Copy+of+Newsletter+11%2F8&utm_campaign=9-4&utm_medium=email Had 501's now have 302s. 302 from 6 up every time (for me). More finesse I guess. In light of that article and if it was me that had to bang a 3 or 4 iron to keep my card - well I'd prob go 502 (would even be tempted 702...and I love my af902). I actually LIKE the jump off the face in the long irons. Knowing the face is so hot quietens me down, and I dont tend to go after it. Thats just me though. At the price you've been offered, buy both, and mix them. Genuinely think the performance will allay your concerns as to bag symmetry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrin Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Probably be left with set of clubs the wrong way round to sell though....which why I'm not a finance director I guess.. :atsg_smilie_roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreBeerBetterGolf Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Having hit both sets a fair amount in all reality I would tell you to go 302 if you prefer less offset and 502 if you like a small amount of offset. They are both long, workable, easy to hit, similar in size. The 502 has a little more technology packed into it and the 302 is more the purists club as it is just a one piece forged whereas the 502 has a spring steel face I believe and the alpha gel. Can't go wrong either way but seriously those bits of information probably would make the decision for most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 I think pretty much everyone, myself included on the first page has suggested you to go for the AF302's. Your handicap. your ability to play small blades, your desire for smaller heads... the AF502 should not even be in the same consideration! (^_^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarri Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Ordered 302, thanks everyone for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swisstrader Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Sooo, we still have not heard from our resident experts including TSG guys on real or fake...gents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Kinda hard to tell 100% from the pics... so I reserve my judgement... the price I will tell you now as an official distributor (not just reseller) of Epon is impossible for that retailer to be making any money but in fact losing money (quite a bit as the heads would cost the dealer himself more than that) on that sale... but he could have his reasons ie unloading the set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 From that pic it would be hard to tell. Could you get a pic of the 7iron and post it? As well as a shot of the hosel With the serial number? Il comment once I see them . In times like this it's better to err in the side of caution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 From that pic it would be hard to tell. Could you get a pic of the 7iron and post it? As well as a shot of the hosel With the serial number? Il comment once I see them . In times like this it's better to err in the side of caution. Pics of the serial will definitely help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerobound Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Good choice. The AF-302 is a great set. It is very easy to work the ball with (feels like a blade), but you get that extra forgiveness of a cavity back. I'd say if you are looking to keep on improving your game, the 302 is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 paint and price = fake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarri Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Built me the below sets as well... for unbelievable prices as well.... they turned out ok... Hoping to be as lucky this time as well... have paid through paypal so there is some security if they turn out to be fakes. Babyblades + 2 wedges for €1000 Black blades + 2 wedges for €800 Hakusa blades + 2 wedges for €600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuramaniac Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Damn, dude, can I have the ones you don't want anymore?! Nice sticks, all of 'em. Don't know about those Hakusas. Are those Carl's? (Matsui I think, of Chikara) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian-500 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 That is some golf arsenal you have there Jarri. Well done to you mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I can't really comment on the Miura pricing since they are not Japanese models so I am not familiar with them and Hakusa is not a Japanese brand. The bottom line is you got what many may consider to be a too good to be true deal on the Epons... if they are legit then congratulations but 720 Euros for 3-PW shafted with PXi would be more than the cost of just the heads for an authorized dealer. Please understand I am not trying to criticize you in anyway... I just hate seeing people ripped off and I would prefer for people to be careful rather than sorry... As long as you look out for yourself and do your research. I guess the way to know for sure.... is this guy an authorized Epon dealer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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