ant Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 the only way it would cut the spin for you if the shaft/s you have replaced with it where really increasing the loft prior to impact. with nunchuk you are likely to have less dynamic loft than with more tip active shafts so thats the only way i can think of how it can actually help to cut spin. for deep faced drivers designs they exploit vertical gear effect to reduce spin. they can actually do more of that with deep faced head design than even larger volume but shallow designs. nunchuk should fight vertical gear effect, at least on paper. i did test nunchuk briefly and figured its not for me. its an interesting design idea and i like the fact that its heavy and stiff but it just felt like i had no idea whats going on with the clubhead and that just doesnt work for me because if i dont like something straight away after a few hits then i drop it because i dont wanna get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm3 Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Th eRoddio Pentacross is a great shaft if it suits you. DI is nice as well but I hold the TourADs which I used to play almost exclusively, a rung below the Crazy, Quadra and Roddio. Just me though. Thx WM, Stew. Ok.. pound for pound. You're marrying a driver.. no more stray eyes, hands belong to only one, you get to choose whether it's forgiveness..or length, what do you put in the bag? Ryoma? JBeam 435? WM, you have both with the same shaft, you must have an opinion.. or is this like asking you which child is your favorite. Also.. what's going rate for a used 435 head these days? USD please. thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) ...or is this like asking you which child is your favorite... for me, this pretty much sums up the debate between the 435 and ryoma v-spec. so different that i wouldn't be without either. Edited March 19, 2013 by chiromikey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Thx WM, Stew. Ok.. pound for pound. You're marrying a driver.. no more stray eyes, hands belong to only one, you get to choose whether it's forgiveness..or length, what do you put in the bag? Ryoma? JBeam 435? WM, you have both with the same shaft, you must have an opinion.. or is this like asking you which child is your favorite. Also.. what's going rate for a used 435 head these days? USD please. thanks. If I had to carry one driver only (I say this cause for a couple of rounds, I dropped the 3W and carried 2 :-) ) and I was playing in a comp, playing a tough course where straight is premium, or just not playing that well, without doubt, its my Ryoma Okamoto! It's shorter than teh 435 but not like 20 meters. Perhaps 10 meters and I can live with that. Just one club more for the second shot. No biggy and not an issue for Par 5s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 actually, while the ryoma is typically a few yards shorter than the 435, it has still given me some of the outright longest bombs i've recorded. one reason i forgot about that might convince me to say that the ryoma would edge out the 435 is that i can hit low piercing 270yd bullets off the deck without much effort. i have to step on my 3w for that and if there's any wind there's no way the 3w will reach. i don't know of any other modern driver that allows me to repeat this shot with any consistency...not since my old ping wooden driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIduffer Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Man Chiro, you must have some amazing courses by you to need to hit 270 off the deck with some frequency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Man Chiro, you must have some amazing courses by you to need to hit 270 off the deck with some frequency. we've got some courses that have some long par 5's. even a couple of the shorter tracks have a par 5 at or just over 600yds. my local course (southern dunes) tips out at over 7500yds and our best public course (papago) at over 7300! i've had some really good golfers think i was much better than i am because that shot is so easy with the ryoma! ...and it doesn't help that my buddies refuse to let me play the lady's tees! Edited March 20, 2013 by chiromikey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 we've got some courses that have some long par 5's. even a couple of the shorter tracks have a par 5 at or just over 600yds. my local course (southern dunes) tips out at over 7500yds and our best public course (papago) at over 7300! i've had some really good golfers think i was much better than i am because that shot is so easy with the ryoma! ...and it doesn't help that my buddies refuse to let me play the lady's tees! Ha ha, small wonder! "I will just rip this driver from the fairway, Bubba-style, 270 yds on to the green. By the way is it ok we use the red tees today?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Ha ha, small wonder! "I will just rip this driver from the fairway, Bubba-style, 270 yds on to the green. By the way is it ok we use the red tees today?" lol...gotta ask! i was asked last minute to fill in for a scramble this weekend and we got stuck using one of my partner's drives on a typically reachable par 5. we had 273 into the wind to the pin and i told the guys to hit first because i was going to hit driver. i was waiting for the green to clear and they all kept telling me to hit. the approach was the perfect shape, a nice right to left shot with a lake along the left and front of the green with bailout on the right. i finally gave in to the peer pressure and wrapped my typical draw right up on the front right side of the green. it didn't have any steam on it when it got there but needless to say i still got scolded by the group in front! no way i could do that with the 435 or my kamui. btw, we all missed the putt anyways... :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 actually, while the ryoma is typically a few yards shorter than the 435, it has still given me some of the outright longest bombs i've recorded. one reason i forgot about that might convince me to say that the ryoma would edge out the 435 is that i can hit low piercing 270yd bullets off the deck without much effort. i have to step on my 3w for that and if there's any wind there's no way the 3w will reach. i don't know of any other modern driver that allows me to repeat this shot with any consistency...not since my old ping wooden driver. I would tend to agree. The Ryoma is capable of some very long drives. My comment about it being maybe 10 metres shorter is an "on average" observation. As for hitting the Ryoma off the deck... heck, I just got enough confidence to start hitting 3W off the deck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I would tend to agree. The Ryoma is capable of some very long drives. My comment about it being maybe 10 metres shorter is an "on average" observation. As for hitting the Ryoma off the deck... heck, I just got enough confidence to start hitting 3W off the deck... i agree, on average i'd say the ryoma is 10-12yds shorter than the 435. as far as off the deck, most of the time i can hit a wood off the deck better than i can a 6 iron...the longer the wood, the easier! that may sound good but i'm not proud of that fact. :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Man, looking at the Ryoma's deep face, I would think it to be really hard to hit from the turf. I used to hit driver from the fairway back when I used more shallow faced drivers with some good results, these days I use only deep, or very deep faced drivers, haven't thought about hitting any of them from the turf..Yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiromikey Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 i've tried all my drivers at least once and it was quite a surprise to find the ryoma to be this easy. i haven't hit driver off the deck with this kind of ease since the days of the 250cc heads! i wouldn't be surprised if it has to do with it's unique weighting system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 sometimes used to hit old nike 460cc driver off the deck, it was sumo or dymo or something like that, shallow faced. went really low but reasonably long enough with roll to make it fun and useful in some cases. cant do it with my current deep faced 425cc tho, at all, goes nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLL33 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Haven't tried one off the deck with the t.388 yet, but this talk makes me think about giving it a shot some time this week if the opportunity comes up. Head shape might actually make it good for that, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Haven't tried one off the deck with the t.388 yet, but this talk makes me think about giving it a shot some time this week if the opportunity comes up. Head shape might actually make it good for that, too. I haven't tried hitting a driver off the deck for years.... after I hit a low screamer that barely left the ground and almost killed someone two fairways to my right.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 that what the kasco FD is for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreBeerBetterGolf Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I saved a scramble victory for my team with a R11S off the deck once. Everyone else hit and we got a safe one, so I got the driver out trying to clear a ravine. Wasn't sure if it got over or not but it did, about 8 feet or so and only a few yards from the green. Made an easy up and down for birdie versus a long 3rd shot into the green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegaman Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Haven't tried one off the deck with the t.388 yet, but this talk makes me think about giving it a shot some time this week if the opportunity comes up. Head shape might actually make it good for that, too. I think the 388 would be usable from the turf, since it does not have that super deep face and is compact which would probably make it reasonably easy to play from the fairway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 i agree, on average i'd say the ryoma is 10-12yds shorter than the 435. as far as off the deck, most of the time i can hit a wood off the deck better than i can a 6 iron...the longer the wood, the easier! that may sound good but i'm not proud of that fact. :-/ yea... not sure if thats a good thing... "man i only got 125 ayrds in here....., pass me the driver.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supo Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I think the 388 would be usable from the turf, since it does not have that super deep face and is compact which would probably make it reasonably easy to play from the fairway not with the diamana X 70 in it , it wont. the ball will go to the earths core and cause a " mega quake i " in chiba if itry that on saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Sorry! Maybe I post this on the wrong page. Here are lots of fans of T388, so......! Do you think that there are counterfeit T338 out there already? Hope you guys can open the attachments. Is it a fake one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idrive Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Looks alright. should have serial number on the Hosel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Sorry! Maybe I post this on the wrong page. Here are lots of fans of T388, so......! Do you think that there are counterfeit T338 out there already? Hope you guys can open the attachments. Is it a fake one? Why don't you just buy one from us and avoid the risk? Drop me an email an I can sort you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted March 22, 2013 Report Share Posted March 22, 2013 You bet ! Goccin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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