Kick point?

[DaleUK]

What's the difference between a UT shaft with a low kick point and one with a medium...?

[Ian-500]

I think the low kick point is for a high launch, and the mid or medium kick point is for a mid launch. Obviously, and just in case you're wondering, a high kick point is for a low launch.

[DaleUK]

I think the low kick point is for a high launch, and the mid or medium kick point is for a mid launch. Obviously, and just in case you're wondering, a high kick point is for a low launch.

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[RIduffer]

Wouldn't a phone call between the two of you been easier?

Edited April 5, 2013 by RIduffer

[DaleUK]

Wouldn't a phone call between the two of you been easier?

Not really!

[Shambles]

Seems to me there is a little bit more to the low,mid and high kicks. If your swing speed isn't all that high, a low kick can make your fairways and long irons a bit more useful. Of course, if you have a high swing speed you would need a higher kick to be able to access all your distance potential and not lose it in ballooning. In short, you need to match your kick point to your swing speed, and that does not mean your best swing speed, but your most common. There are many other factors that can affect your swing results, but kick points, so often disregarded, do have a reasonably significant effect upon your overall game.

Shambles

[DaleUK]

Seems to me there is a little bit more to the low,mid and high kicks. If your swing speed isn't all that high, a low kick can make your fairways and long irons a bit more useful. Of course, if you have a high swing speed you would need a higher kick to be able to access all your distance potential and not lose it in ballooning. In short, you need to match your kick point to your swing speed, and that does not mean your best swing speed, but your most common. There are many other factors that can affect your swing results, but kick points, so often disregarded, do have a reasonably significant effect upon your overall game.

Shambles

Thanks..

The reason for asking is I recently bought the 21* Yam Ute with a Graphite Design 85 Stiff flex UT shaft

Now, 7 out of 10 times I hit the club very well 210yards Straight as an arrow ... But my bad shot with the club is blocked out Right!

Again I realise that it could be a number of factors which give me that bad result!!.

BUT... Even when I hit the club well I feel that the shaft is just to " Stiff", maybe feels dead, like I've no idea where the club Head is..

So I thought maybe either go lighter on the shaft weight or come down a flex??

The Reg Flex is 1 gram lighter but the same Torque??

The lighterflex shaft (65gram)but same Stiff flex as a Higher Torque and a different kick point( which would give me a higher flight, which I'm not after)

Edited April 5, 2013 by DaleUK

[RIduffer]

You could go lighter with same flex and tip it some. That will probably yield your desired effect. Challenge is figuring how much to tip...

Edited April 5, 2013 by RIduffer

[Shambles]

Thanks..

The reason for asking is I recently bought the 21* Yam Ute with a Graphite Design 85 Stiff flex UT shaft

Now, 7 out of 10 times I hit the club very well 210yards Straight as an arrow ... But my bad shot with the club is blocked out Right!

Again I realise that it could be a number of factors which give me that bad result!!.

BUT... Even when I hit the club well I feel that the shaft is just to " Stiff", maybe feels dead, like I've no idea where the club Head is..

So I thought maybe either go lighter on the shaft weight or come down a flex??

The Reg Flex is 1 gram lighter but the same Torque??

The lighterflex shaft (65gram)but same Stiff flex as a Higher Torque and a different kick point( which would give me a higher flight, which I'm not after)

That's not a question I can answer without knowing and having seen your swing. Shafts can be treated many ways to affect their performance and I am not expert in the treatment or their effect. At the most simple level, lower kick points help people who have trouble get the ball up in the air and so does a softer shaft because, swung correctly, they can equate to higher club head speed at impact. In your case, in very general terms, the ability to hit a 210 yard carry with a 21* wood is pretty much expectable regardless of stiff or regular shafts in the American norm but if Japanese, I find they come a bit softer so I would stay with stiff, unless your problems are coming from or beginning with being able to hit the ball that far from a very slightly downhill lie. Sounds to me as if you have plenty of swing speed and your problems might more likely come from a misread lie or just plain errors that come from fatigue or loss of focus. With a 70% success ratio, I would be looking at swing errors more than for an equipment fix. There really is good reason for the best pros being so methodical about executing a swing as compared to the pros who miss more often.

Next time that error comes up, take the time to review the swing just executed and see if you can find the error and, if possible, put down another ball and try to do the swing again the same way. It's far from precise, but might give you enough data to make a decision on your own about your error and what fix is needed.

Shambles

[DaleUK]

That's not a question I can answer without knowing and having seen your swing. Shafts can be treated many ways to affect their performance and I am not expert in the treatment or their effect. At the most simple level, lower kick points help people who have trouble get the ball up in the air and so does a softer shaft because, swung correctly, they can equate to higher club head speed at impact. In your case, in very general terms, the ability to hit a 210 yard carry with a 21* wood is pretty much expectable regardless of stiff or regular shafts in the American norm but if Japanese, I find they come a bit softer so I would stay with stiff, unless your problems are coming from or beginning with being able to hit the ball that far from a very slightly downhill lie. Sounds to me as if you have plenty of swing speed and your problems might more likely come from a misread lie or just plain errors that come from fatigue or loss of focus. With a 70% success ratio, I would be looking at swing errors more than for an equipment fix. There really is good reason for the best pros being so methodical about executing a swing as compared to the pros who miss more often.

Next time that error comes up, take the time to review the swing just executed and see if you can find the error and, if possible, put down another ball and try to do the swing again the same way. It's far from precise, but might give you enough data to make a decision on your own about your error and what fix is needed.

Shambles

Shambles

That could be the best bit of golf info I've been told in years!!