sundowner Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) As I learned from Tario, best position to install a crazy shaft is Logo Up or Logo down (let say at 12 or 6 o´clock). As I found out I got by far the best results (headspeed, ball speed, smash factor, on center hits.. ) when a shaft is perfectly Flat Line Oscilatted. It is very interesting that you got FLOing with Crazy shafts near to Logo up or Logo down. Really great work from Crazy! Last week I let a clubfitter check some other shafts, before installing in Ryoma Maxima, how to reach flowing. - Fuji: Rombax Type X: Flowing, when Logo is facing the target (Logo at 9 o´clock) - UST: VTS TourSpx Silver: Flowing, when Logo is at 3 o´clock (maybe also at 9 o´clock) - XCaliber: Tour SL: Flowing, when Logo is round about at 3 or 9 o´clock - Crazy (LY01, Proto..): Flowing near by 12 or 6 o´clock - Nippon Regio Formula: (forgot at home..) Question to other TSG members: When you let a clubfitter FLO your shaft/head: In which position FLOing is reached? Edited May 26, 2013 by sundowner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmclarenf1 Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 It's really individual shaft depedent form my experience. For Crazy and Quadra however, I have found the most consistency from shaft to shaft in that they are very very close to logo up/down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romaro-Slut Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 my crazy logo 46 on the 460HX is facing up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 its crazy (no pun) how uniform modern premium shafts have become. when i got matrix programs from tsg while back i did ask to align them the same way across the set during the build so that the set is more consistent in feel. the guy who built it (the most knowledgeable and professional guy i had pleasure to deal with, works with tour players as well, when he says something about that stuff i listen) then said look i did what you asked but to be honest these are so uniform there is no practical difference and you can just take them out of the box and install any way you like and they be practically consistent. certainly there could be exceptions and quality control issues but i mean this is the level of manufacturing they can do these days. not saying spining, floing and pureing is waste of time, certainly doesnt hurt, especially in case you are dealing with exception (due to design or manufacturing) or quality control issues and you dont know these things for sure til you try/measure them but with wood shafts personally i dont bother unless manufacturer says otherwise it goes logo down and thats it, less visual noise to look at the better. one problem i see with all those testing processes is they only test shafts in one dimension while in reality it would bend and torque very different to those tests. if you torque it, bend it and droop it at the same time and then let go what would it really do then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gocchin Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 The great thing about Japanese brands is many of them mark the spine or find the spine first then apply the graphics (Crazy, Quadra) so that it will end up logo up or down. It also saves a lot of time as ant says, shafts are so uniform and well made now it can be hard for some clubmakers to even find the spine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundowner Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 The great thing about Japanese brands is many of them mark the spine or find the spine first then apply the graphics (Crazy, Quadra) so that it will end up logo up or down. It also saves a lot of time as ant says, shafts are so uniform and well made now it can be hard for some clubmakers to even find the spine. It seems there is no industry standard for companies what they mark after measuring the spine position: The test showed: Crazy, Quadra: Marking the Spine Fujikura, UST: Marking FLO plane (so 90 degree from spine position - meaning Logo to or away from the target line) XCaliber - Marking Spine and FLO Would be interesting to know, when getting a marked shaft, is it the Spine or the FLO. What´s about Mitsubishi (Diamana, Fubuki..), Graphite Design (9003, BB, DI, GT ..) and Nippon (Regio Formula..)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjr. D Posted May 26, 2013 Report Share Posted May 26, 2013 Ya, this would be GREAT to have nailed down. I wouldn't have to send every new head and shaft I get, away, to get FLO'd/Spined/Tuned/etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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